Hanging out the Troops (Hackworth Fails to Mention 17 Senators)

David Hackworth ^ | May 10, 2004 | David HAckworth

[r9etb]

Actually, I forgot to close my sarcasm tag, too. ;-)

Overall I agree with your assessment. However, I am less confident than you appear to be, that the "Democrat senators were told" angle will get much airplay.

[RichInOC]

I've read about everybody from Rosa Klebb the brigade commander down to these guys and their families complaining that they didn't get enough resources and training from above. I'm curious...exactly how much time and money do you need to tell your people "Don't abuse your prisoners. Don't let anybody else abuse your prisoners. If you do, I will personally make sure that you become prisoners...but first, I will try to break my foot off in your backside"?

Especially since at least some of these tards were cops and corrections officers in their regular jobs.

[DainBramage]

When I told him I’d shoot him if he didn’t cease and desist

Ahh.... murder an American. Why shoot him soldier man ?

[CWOJackson]

I've often wondered what turns people like HACKworth and pat buchanan into such bitter old men. The more they speak the easier it is to understand...they are without personal integrity or honor.

[Polybius]

......the brass have spent months covering up obscene behavior while placing the sole blame on Joe and Jill Grunt. .............Retired Master Sgt. William Lawson, who brought the atrocity story to SFTT.org, says the 800th Military Police Brigade is a prime example....

Bravo Sierra.

Retired Master Sgt. William Lawson did nothing except try to blackmail the U.S. Army by threatening to release copies of the photos unless the U.S. Army dropped charges against his nephew. The U.S. Army, to it's credit, refused to subvert the rule of law in the face of blackmail.

The abuse was first reported on 13 January 2004 by Spc. Joseph Darby.

U.S. Central Command (CENTCOM) Press Release Number: 04-01-43 announced on January 16, 2004 that an investigation was going to be conducted in a case dealing with detainee abuse. This was the first time that the press had heard anything about this and it was 3 days after the abuse had been reported.

An Army Regulation Article 15-6 investigation was commenced on 19 January 2004 and was an extremely extensive investigation with interviews of over 50 witnesses both American and Iraqi.

The Army Regulation Article 15-6 investigation concluded:

CONCLUSION:1. (U) Several US Army Soldiers have committed egregious acts and grave breaches of international law at Abu Ghraib/BCCF and Camp Bucca, Iraq. Furthermore, key senior leaders in both the 800th MP Brigade and the 205th MI Brigade failed to comply with established regulations, policies, and command directives in preventing detainee abuses at Abu Ghraib (BCCF) and at Camp Bucca during the period August 2003 to February 2004.

Hackworth is not only an accomplice to blackmail but also a liar.

[monkeywrench]

OMG! I'll never look at him quite the same! LOL!

[CWOJackson]

"To everybody, hackworth supposedly has a column coming out tomorrow on Joe Farah's World Nut(whoops excuse me)Net Daily."

Not surprising, their friend Kerry isn't doing so well so they'll ratchet up their attacks on the President. Despite all their rhetoric buchanan, farah and HACKworth don't give a damn about America...it's all about them.

[bayourod]

"I saw a very connected intelligence captain torturing a POW with a field-telephone wire attached to his testicles "

And since Hackworth was so much better trained than our current reserves, he immedialtely reported it to his superiors, just as they had so well trained him to do.

Is there a statute of limitations on war crimes?

[RobbyS]

I agree, adding that the only cuts in the federal budget that were mea ningfully were in the DoD. The Army lost two divisions because of those cuts but also because the Army brass was busy fighting the last war. So long as Clinton left them free to play their games, they were not inclined to fight for those divisions.

[LADY J]

Can't wait for Rush's words to come true. Revenge is sweet!

[shezza]

HACK ATTACKS

"Hack-hack-hack...hack-hack-hack-hack!"

[Dane]

Not surprising, their friend Kerry isn't doing so well so they'll ratchet up their attacks on the President. Despite all their rhetoric buchanan, farah and HACKworth don't give a damn about America...it's all about them.

Exactly. Joe Farah is a malcontnent in the Buchanan/Harry Browne vein(or would the apt spelling be "vain"), who snipes from the sidelines, while proclaiming his one and only "true conservatism".

[John Lenin]

On both occasions, I knew I had the moral right

Who is this clown kidding? Name one war where the actual fighting is moral? The only thing you can say that is moral about war is the cause for war. Hackworth-less is a self promoting POS.

[highlandbreeze]

Be careful, he'll label you a Nazi.

[Askel5]

=== We expect our soldiers to be men of character, and while that means you don't commit atrocities, it also means you don't lose sight of your moral war aims.


I think this cuts to part of the reason these actions are so unexcusable in this particular instance. The moral aims of a war whose self-defense measures are "preventive" at least leaves us touting ourselves a Liberators who have arrived to bring democracy and freedom and "rights" to Iraqis.

Because we've raised the bar on ourselves thus, it's only natural that things are different.

How many times have we been told this is a whole new kind of war? Chances are good all sorts of rules have changed.

[joesnuffy]

Would have been interesting to watch Hack interrogate chi coms and N Koreans during the Korean war and VC during his stint out at FSB Danger..

He wasn't known back in those days for his big belief in "human rights" for VC anyway...

so how come he is suddenly overcome by the desire to uphold the human rights of the Fedayeen and Saddam's SS
or those of the kind that gang raped our female soldiers who were mortally wounded at the time of their torture...by these same thugs...

[John Lenin]

Hack is so phoney he is pathetic. He reminds of John McCain, liberals have put him on a pedastool and it has gone to his head. His lame attempts at logic are a joke. There is NO MORAILTY in war, unless hack can claim that he never killed anyone he is just talking out of his ass.

[Wolfstar]

Hackworth was suppose to name the 17 Senators...

Why ANYONE takes people like Hackworth seriously, I'll never understand. He is to the military what Larry Klayman is to the law, and Richard C. Hoagland is to science. Too many of these bit players are out there making a living by hawking their supposed inside knowledge to the gullible.

[kcvl]

Speaking of John McCain...

He is on with John Gibson at this very moment making an *ss of himself. NUT JOB!

[John Lenin]

John McCain, another Mental Midget.