Using Women's Panties as a Weapon

Frontpagemag.com ^ | May 10, 2004 | Larry Schweikart

[Sue Bob]

Amidst all the apologies, I want to suggest we all (Hillary Clinton here) take a deep breath and consider something that no one in the administration or Congress has (publicly) considered:

The POW photos are having an unintended effect on the Arab "Street" and the "resistance."

By now, everyone pretty well knows that Arab societies base everything on power and perceptions of power. In part, that is why so many Freepers and conservatives got their panties in a bunch because it appeared in public like "apologizing" was a sign of weakness.

Ah, my friends. You aren't thinking like an Arab. The "street" and, indeed, the leadership doesn't trust much of what we say---they only look at what we do. It would have made no difference if Bush formally apologized and sent each detainee a bouquet of flowers---the "street" would see that as a sham, a pretense, a distraction from the "real" policy.

No, I suggest something else. That the Arab "street" and especially the "resistance" has taken from those photos a message we didn't intend to send, but one that strikes fear into the very heart of them---a message of pure power and dominance. The submissive positions of these "tough" Iraqi men under the heels and attached to the leashes of WOMEN (and relatively small women, at that) sends a very powerful message to the "street."

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Of course, for many reasons, some good and some bad, this episode will be investigated, and some heads will roll. But the Arab street will not take that as a sign of American or western-style "justice," rather it will interpret this as another psy-op campaign designed to conceal the real message---that American women are "stronger" than Middle Eastern men.

[Sue Bob]

Granted, I don't want to see prisoners "physically" abused--as in real injuries. I don't like seeing women soldiers hanging out with "necked" prisoners. I don't like the porno poses. I don't like seeing that girl with a cancer stick hanging sideways out of her mouth.

That said, the media's relentless, unfair coverage of this issue is beginning to PISS ME OFF!!! The Democratic leadership's attempt to sacrifice our will to win is enraging me!!!!

Then, I saw this commentary about the unintended affects that this issue is having on our enemies.

As long as our guards didn't let dogs bite the prisoners (as the media has suggested), as long as the guards didn't shove broomsticks up their butts--I am beginning to reach the conclusion that this is much ado about nothing.

I am ALL FOR humiliating this enemy. That is obviously our most potent weapon against them. They use it themselves.

AND, I bet the citizens of Iraq who are sick to death of the insurgents would revel in their humiliation.

I say dress them up in corsets, garter belts and fishnet stockings like Dr. Frankenfurther in Rocky Horror Picture Show and threaten to parade them down the streets of Bagdad if they don't talk.

[cyborg]

I want to suggest we all (Hillary Clinton here) take a deep breath

*** Why did I draw a complete mental blank after reading THAT?

[Naspino]

Its too bad the MPs didn't immediately claim that they were engaging in interactive art and that this was simply their way of expressing their feelings about war. This story would have been dead on arrival.

[KellyAdmirer]

I know a bunch of Republican streets that not only don't give a hoot in hell about this controversy, in fact it makes them even more eager to keep President Bush and his fine leadership in office.

[Reelect President Dubya]

Not one drop of Islamofascist blood was lost in the "torture."

This manufactured crisis is going to blow right up in the media's face.

Everybody will see through it by election time.

[DainBramage]

I say take off the hoods, take thier pictures in drag and print up a thousand copies to be spread all over Sand Dune City.

Let the Arab world see thier finest dressed up like L.A. on Saturday night.

[reformed_democrat]

I say dress them up in corsets, garter belts and fishnet stockings like Dr. Frankenfurther in Rocky Horror Picture Show and threaten to parade them down the streets of Bagdad if they don't talk.

Given that these are the same guys who hauled off and jailed children whose parents displeased Sadam, I think this is a very mild punishment.

. . . the media's relentless, unfair coverage of this issue is beginning to PISS ME OFF!!!

Couldn't agree more.

[Naspino]

Everybody will see through it by election time.

Every manufactured crisis gives the extremists on the left an opportunity to voice their beliefs. That is good for us. This woman that was just on Rush is a good example -- claiming to be a soldier for 11 years but then states that THIS makes every American soldier to be a scum bag.

[Tijeras_Slim]

If they'd pulled Ol' Crusty over the Iraqui's heads, it would have killed them.

[petercooper]

[cyborg]

that would have been cruel and unusual punishment

[lilylangtree]

I agree the relentless media coverage is asinine. They don't have any other fat to chew on. It's like they are trying to force an issue, such as Rumsfeld's resignation. Radio's Bill Bennett show talked about it everyday last week (I believe the story broke on Wednesday) and again today. I watched the Dolans on CNN and they talked about it all last week and today. The local newspaper is printing a story a day. I'M FED UP CONSIDERING THAT THE MILITARY WAS ALREADY INVESTIGATING THE ISSUE, 17 MEMBERS OF CONGRESS (BOTH PARTIES) HAD ALREADY BEEN NOTIFIED AND THE RED CROSS KNEW ABOUT LONG BEFORE THE STORY BROKE. AND THE US SHOULD NEVER ISSUE AN APOLOGY TO THESE BARBARIC MURDEROUS SCUM.

[Conspiracy Guy]

The real uproar ought to be over the slow release of this photos while the investigation was underway. In WWII we would not have heard a word about this until the war was over.

The party or parties who released these photos should be in as hot, if not hotter water, as those who carried out the abuse.

The photos have done much damage to our cause and jeopardize every coalition soldier or civilian who may find themselves captured or kidnapped.

PUNISH ALL the GUILTY PARTIES.

[Flipyaforreal]

"I say dress them up in corsets, garter belts and fishnet stockings like Dr. Frankenfurther in Rocky Horror Picture Show and threaten to parade them down the streets of Bagdad if they don't talk."

LOL! I'll donate a thong for the cause just to have a front row seat to that parade!

[Praxeologue]

The only reason that these photos have become public is because the Army is prosecuting the pranksters, who went public to protect themselves.

Therefore the real message to the "street" is: the U.S. government is your friend, so treat it well; the average soldier would dishonour you if given a chance.

[OrioleFan]

MP = MaplethorP?

[babble-on]

rumor that it was the defense lawyers of some of the soldiers being prosecuted for committing the acts in the photos who released the photos to the press. Is that possible? (I know nothing about "military justice")

[narby]

I think this Iraqi prisoner abuse is the most horible thing I've seen all year.

Now if we could only get the media interested in cleaning up college fraternity hazings.

[ken5050]

If you're trying to do a psych job on an Arab prisoner, to mentally intimidate him bfore in terrogation, you don't use a 6'5' 350 ripped black guy, you use a 5'1" 100 lb female who looks like a little girl...given the male Arab mindset..that ill shake them up..

BTW, forget the panties and girdles..dress them in BURKAS...