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Insulting the memory of FDR [were Japanese internment camps wrong?]
WorldNet Daily ^ | March 20, 2004 | Les Kinsolving

Posted on 05/09/2004 7:01:00 AM PDT by risk

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Saturday, March 20, 2004



Insulting the memory of FDR


Posted: March 20, 2004
1:00 a.m. Eastern

By Les Kinsolving


� 2004 WorldNetDaily.com

The Associated Press reporter in the House of Representatives told me, "we didn't report the passage of the Honda resolution because it was done with a voice vote, with just a handful of members on the floor."

But this resolution was introduced by Rep. Michael Honda, a Democrat of California, whose website advertises him as having "spent his early childhood with his family at Amache, Colo., concentration camp during World War II."

This is an insult to the U.S. Supreme Court's liberals such as Felix Frankfurter, Hugo Black and Willaim O. Douglas, who, in the 1944 Korematsu case, ruled emphatically against the "concentration camp" libel. They also ruled constitutional the relocation of all Japanese resident aliens and Japanese-Americans from the three West Coast states and parts of Arizona.

This resolution, passed by that device of non-accountability the voice vote, also insulted the memory of our great wartime president, Franklin Delano Roosevelt, as well as Johns Hopkins University President Milton Eisenhower, director of the War Relocation Authority.

This resolution calls for a "National Day of Remembrance to increase public awareness of the events surrounding the restriction, exclusion and internment of individuals and families during World War II."

Congressman Honda claims this is a "shameful chapter in U.S. history," ordered by President Roosevelt's Executive Order 9066 signed on Feb. 19, 1942 � the day this Honda resolution designates as a National Day of Remembrance.

What is really shameful is the fact that most of U.S. media today refuses to report the historical fact that our U.S. intelligence code-breakers who broke the Japanese code discovered hundreds of Japanese aliens and Japanese-Americans in those West Coast states who were functioning as spies for Imperial Japan.

They were watching all of our Naval shipping and had infiltrated many of our defense plants. But had they been arrested, this would have compromised and ended our breaking of that Japanese code � which later helped the United States win the decisive Battle of Midway.

The hundreds of Japanese spies on our West Coast had to be stopped without any revelation that we had broken the Japanese code.

For this reason, President Roosevelt signed Executive Order 9066 � for which the Honda resolution is now defaming him.

Dr. Roger McGrath has been professor of history at both UCLA and California State University at Northbridge. He is also a major in the U.S. Marine Corps, Reserve Intelligence. He has also been a technical adviser and participant on television's A & E, the History Channel, the Discovery Channel, TNT, ABC and Disney.

He has written for the Wall Street Journal, the New York Times, Harpers, the Encyclopedia of the American West and the American Conservative, in which he wrote the following in the March 15th issue about Honda's resolution passed by the House:

Honda's resolution contains a series of misrepresentations that have passed for fact for so many years that they are now generally accepted without question. Moreover, the resolution posits President Jimmy Carter's Commission on Wartime Relocation and Internment and its report, "Personal Justice Denied," as the final authority on the subject. After "20 days of hearings" and "over 750 witnesses," the commission concluded that E.O. 9066 was not justified by military necessity but was the result of "race prejudice, war hysteria and a failure of political leadership." That conclusion, however, is contrary to the facts as revealed by MAGIC, the decryptions of coded Japanese transmissions. The commission ignored MAGIC entirely in its original report, as it did witnesses who were available to proffer information supporting Roosevelt's order. The few witnesses who attempted to testify in support of E.O. 9066 were drowned out by an unruly mob of spectators.

This commission's incredible behavior, as well as the reparations voted by Congress of $20,000 to each of 82,000 evacuees ($1.6 million) were termed "shameful" by California's U.S. Sen. S.I. Hayakawa. He also described "a wolf pack of dissident young Japanese-Americans making an unconscionable raid on the U.S. Treasury."

(The senator was, in turn, denounced by these people as "a banana: yellow on the outside, white on the inside.")

Dr. McGrath also reports:

John J. McCloy, the assistant secretary of war in 1942, who monitored the evacuation and relocation, said the proceedings were "a horrendous affront to our tradition for fair and objective hearings. ... Whenever I sought in the slightest degree to justify the action ... ordered by President Roosevelt, my testimony was met with hisses and boos such as I have never, over an experience extending back to World War I, been heretofore subjected to. Others had similar experiences ... it became clear from the outset of my testimony that the commission was not at all disposed to conduct an objective investigation."

The officer in charge of the evacuation, Karl R. Bendesten, was subjected to similar treatment and simply stopped in the middle of his testimony. "I knew it would be fruitless," said Bendesten. "Every commissioner had made up his mind before he was appointed."

One of U.S. media's most inexcusable wrongs is the widespread confusion of the words "internment" and "relocation."

There were only 17,000 Japanese aliens and Japanese-Americans interned. They were quite justifiably interned, because those who were U.S.-born declared their loyalty to Emporor Hirohito. One-third of these were Japanese-Americans who renounced their American citizenship.

There was no need to relocate any Japanese aliens or Japanese-Americans from the Territory of Hawaii � because immediately after Pearl Harbor, the U.S. Army quite justifiably imposed martial law.

Dr. McGrath reports:

The great majority of Japanese were not interned but required only to relocate outside of the Western Defense Zone, an area that included California, the western halves of Oregon and Washington, and a small portion of Arizona. Those who were not able to move were eventually taken to relocation centers, built with the same materials and on similar patterns as Army bases.

Japanese could leave a relocation center if they could re-establish themselves outside of the Defense Zone, and some 35,000 did so. Those who relocated on their own by the end of March 1942 did not go to the centers.

Among those who relocated on their own and never went to any relocation center were the Toguris of California. They moved to Chicago and opened a food store.

Their daughter, Iva, UCLA Class of 1940, had moved to their homeland along with thousands of other U.S.-born Japanese. This daughter is still alive. She was known to many as "Tokyo Rose." She was found guilty of treason. But instead of being hanged (like the British hanged "Lord Haw Haw"), she was sent to the Women's Federal Prison in Alderson, W.Va. � from which she was released after being pardoned by President Gerald Ford on his last day in the White House.

The relocation centers to which the great majority of Japanese resident aliens or citizens were sent were relatively easy to leave if one could obtain a job anywhere outside the West Coast states. Dr. McGrath reports:

More than 4,300 Japanese left to go to college at government expense and thousands left to work on farms. Meanwhile, in the relocation centers the death rate was lower and the birth rate higher than that of the general American population. So, too, was the graduation rate from high school. At the time, the Japanese-American Citizens' League (JACL) praised the government for providing the relocation centers. Dillon Myer, the director of the War Relocation Authority, said, "Nothing was done regarding the relocation centers without the approval of the JACL."

And by contrast to the wonderfully humane treatment of those in relocation centers � who, later, received $20,000 apiece -- U.S. prisoners of the Japanese, including survivors of the Bataan Death March, were paid just $1 per day for being in that Hell-On-Earth.

One of the many references which thoroughly discredit Congressman Honda's defamatory resolution is "MAGIC: The Untold Story of U.S. Intelligence And The Evacuation of Japanese Residents From The West Coast During World War II."

The author is the late David Lowman, former special assistant to the director, National Security Agency.

Dr. McGrath also notes that the American Japanese Claims Act of 1948 led to the provision of $35 million paid on thousands of Japanese-Americans claims for lost or damaged homes, or even crop loss, as a result of their being called away from their homes during a national emergency -- just as so many millions of American men were called away from their homes to serve in our armed forces where half a million of them were killed fighting our national enemies.

McGrath concluded his article with a notation I hope the U.S. Senate will use in seeking to set aside and properly expose Congressman Honda's defamatory and history-distorting Day of Remembrance resolution:

If I were a loyal American of Japanese descent, I would not have been pleased with the evacuation order. Nor would I have been thrilled with having to uproot myself from my home on the Pacific Coast. However, as an emergency wartime sacrifice, it is hardly the greatest.

Just ask those Marines who regard February 19 as their Day of Remembrance. On that date in 1945 they stormed ashore on Iwo Jima, where more than 6,000 of them died. That's a sacrifice to remember -- and honor.



Les Kinsolving hosts a daily talk show for WCBM in Baltimore. His radio commentaries are syndicated nationally. He is White House correspondent for Talk Radio Network and WorldNetDaily. His show can be heard on the Internet at www.wcbm.com 8-10 p.m. Eastern each weekday. Before going into broadcasting, Kinsolving was a newspaper reporter and columnist -- twice nominated for the Pulitzer Prize for his commentary.



TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; Israel; Japan; News/Current Events; US: Alaska; US: California; US: Hawaii; US: Oregon; US: Washington; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: fdr; fifthcolumn; internment; japanese; kinsolving; michaelhonda; wot; ww2; wwii
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To: wtc911; cyborg
I knew my amorphous recollection was right! I still can't get over that half-Jewish guy who was a member of the Nazi party and decided that a federal park would be a great shooting range!

As Bill Cosby said: "they seem to put one in every car." You could apply this to just about any street in the five boroughs.

61 posted on 05/09/2004 6:13:05 PM PDT by The Scourge of Yazid (Where did they get all those American Flags to burn? Is there a store or something over there?)
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To: muawiyah
Talk to professor McGrath since I reference his articles in "Chronicles."
62 posted on 05/09/2004 6:14:27 PM PDT by junta
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To: wtc911
thanks for that confirmation
63 posted on 05/09/2004 6:15:32 PM PDT by cyborg
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To: risk
[were Japanese internment camps wrong?]

Yes. Of course. Locking up people who have committed no crime is always wrong.

Was it necessary? That is another question. And quite a different one.

64 posted on 05/09/2004 6:19:38 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Unionized employees are like broken guns, they won't work and you can't fire them)
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To: muawiyah; risk
Not a single act of sabotage or espionage has ever been attributed to any of the Japanese-Americans.

EXACTLY! BINGO!

This is because the known Japanese spies and sabateurs were scooped up along with the other west coast Japanese, and never knew that their espionage activities had already been discovered, due to Magic intercepts. If only those exact known spies had been arrested, the secret of Magic would have been blown, and the Japanese would have changed their codes.

But with the relocations, the secret of Magic was preserved, the secret which Eisenhauer and Marshall said shortened the war in the Pacific by at least three years, and saved hundreds of thousands of American casualties.

(And remember, we were not the only ones racing to unlock the secret of the atom, so three years must be seen to mean before Nazi or Imperial Japanese atomic bombs were developed.)

And please also go up-thread a few and read my comparison to the "allowed" bombing of Coventry, to preserve the secret of MK Ultra. If Churchill had "saved" those citizens of Coventry, but thereby blown the secret of Ultra, the war would have dragged on years longer, at a cost of millions more dead.

For one example, Ultra intercepts were used to destroy the German submarine wolfpacks in detail. Without Ultra, the Atlantic convoy system might have collapsed during 1942.

In war, sometimes leaders must take hard decisions.

Tell me what you think about the morality of sacrificing Coventry to save Ultra, and win WW2 in Europe and save millions of lives.

Then give me your arguments about the morality of relocating the west coast Japanese to save Magic, and win WW2 in the Pacific. At least they weren't blown to bits, like the innocent civilians and children in Coventry.

65 posted on 05/09/2004 6:21:34 PM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: Travis McGee
Now, name the spies ~ certainly that information is no longer classified.

Let's see their names, and what happened to them in the end.

Locking up children in places like Manzanar DID not protect the information you allege. Stealing their parent's property and selling it to Hollywood bigshots did not advance the cause.

You will have to do an awful lot better ~ BTW, we've been through this kind of stuff before ~ the be-all, end-all story to prove the correctness of the internment ~ last time it was that all the Japanese-Americans lived near military bases, and that they had obviously done so to advance "spying".

As it turns out, almost of those military facilities were built AFTER JAs had begun farming land there.

As everybody knows Southern California is naturally a desert with few local water supplies. The JA farmers purchased or rented land where there was water so that they could farm. Deparment of War and Department of Navy ALSO sought out sites where there was water so that they could conduct their activities.

I would expect this won't be the last attempt to "prove" the rightness of a grievous wrong committed by Roosevelt and his minions.

66 posted on 05/09/2004 6:41:35 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah
What do you mean by "we"?

We is the United States of America. I use that word because I was born here and I'm proud to be associated with my country. Got a problem with that, pal?

The various stories appearing in the Los Angeles and other papers attacking the Japanese-Americans were most likely planted there by the wealthy individuals who purchased land and other property owned by Japanese-Americans at forced tax sales.

I believe Roosevelt acted in what he thought were the best interests of the United States. Are you suggesting that there were no Japanese sympathizers among those of Japanese descent living here? You're obviously young and have grown up in a PC world where we're afraid to question more than two suspicious looking Middle-easterners in any single planeload of people. I used to think that Social Security would be the undoing of this country, but I think our collective Political Correctness may do us in first.

If you're a California resident ...

I wonder what you think the NJ stands for.

ML/NJ

67 posted on 05/09/2004 6:56:28 PM PDT by ml/nj
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To: ml/nj
Hey, nothing unusual about New Jersey residents ALSO having residence in California, and several other states besides. Otherwise they couldn't vote the way they wanted, both early and often.

Be that as it may, American citizens are, of course, American citizens. I gather from your response that you are of the impression that only certain Americans are "real" Americans, and outside of that group citizenship should never be conferred.

Actually, I'm OK with that. Starting with 1828, anyone who had an ancestor arriving AFTER THAT DATE, should GO BACK HOME!

Then "we real Americans" can have it all for ourselves.

68 posted on 05/09/2004 7:10:04 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Travis McGee
Hey, Travis, next time my mother gets called a jap I'll be sure to ask her if it was said in a historical context. Note to self:
Racial slurs used in a historical context are ok. Gotta remember that when I discuss immigration and slavery.
69 posted on 05/09/2004 7:19:01 PM PDT by Chip the Cat
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To: Chip the Cat
Can I call Hitler a "kraut" with your permission? How about "Fritz?" Can I call Tojo a "Nip?" I mean, the Imperial Japanese Army did do the Bataan Death March, the Burma Railroad, the "Ships of Death" and on and on. And I'm not allowed to call them Japs now? Sheesh. Get a life.
71 posted on 05/09/2004 7:38:17 PM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: civil discourse
PS: Germans then and now call us "Amis" and "Yanks." The horror! I'm so oppressed to be called such terrible names! National nicknames must NOT be permitted!
72 posted on 05/09/2004 7:40:12 PM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: civil discourse
Yes another freeper refreshed my memory about the nazi sympathizers here in the US.
73 posted on 05/09/2004 7:41:05 PM PDT by cyborg
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To: Travis McGee
Travis, did I ever say to you that you are not allowed to use whatever word you wish? Did I say I would call a cop or sue you? No, I did not. I asked someone else, by the way, why they would use that word. I object to the word on personal grounds. You wanna show your ignorance go right ahead. If you have anything of intelligence to say your use of racial slurs detracts from it.
74 posted on 05/09/2004 7:57:33 PM PDT by Chip the Cat
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To: civil discourse
Nah I'm thirty something and a bit wet behind the ears.
76 posted on 05/09/2004 8:07:18 PM PDT by cyborg
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To: risk
I know and admire Les Kinsolving. But in this instance he is dead wrong. The original Army descriptions called the Japanese-American internment camps, "concentration camps." We changed the label after we found out what the Germans were doing under that label.

Ultimately, the camps WERE ruled unconstitutional, by a LOWER court. The issue went up to the Supreme Court, and to its eternal shame, it refused the case and left standing the LOWER court decision which fouond that the imprisonment of Fred Korematsu, for the "crime" of being a Japanese-American and without charges or trial. Google BOTH cases named Korematsu v. US forty years apart.

Or you can get and read my book Manzanar which gives the history of these "concentration camps." It's in most major libraries, especially in the West.

Roosevelt was wrong to issue his Order. The six Justices who voted to approve the Order were wrong. And Les is dead wrong in this article.

Congressman Billybob

Latest column, "Congressmen, Humorists, Burglars -- All of Us in the Trade."

78 posted on 05/20/2004 11:04:23 AM PDT by Congressman Billybob (www.ArmorforCongress.com Visit. Join. Help. Please.)
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To: Congressman Billybob; Poohbah; veronica

It is ironic that the only major voice to oppose those camps was none other than J. Edgar Hoover...


79 posted on 05/20/2004 11:11:59 AM PDT by hchutch ("Go ahead. Leave early and beat the traffic. The Milwaukee Brewers dare you." - MLB.com 5/11/04)
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To: Mears; Condor51
Japanese-Americans were locked up if they had "one Japanese grandparent," and lived west of the Mississippi, except on Hawaii. German-Americans were only locked up individually and on specific charges. Huge difference.

My book, Manzanar, gives the history of those camps. Had German-Americans have been locked up on the same basis, I wouold have died in one of those camps in 1943 -- the medical facilities at those camps were inadequate to deal with a premature baby who had one German grandparent.

Mears' description of the difference is correct.

John / Billybob

80 posted on 05/20/2004 11:15:12 AM PDT by Congressman Billybob (www.ArmorforCongress.com Visit. Join. Help. Please.)
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