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F.A.A. Official Scrapped Tape of 9/11 Controllers' Statements
Times ^ | 050604 | By MATTHEW L. WALD

Posted on 05/06/2004 11:15:22 AM PDT by Archangelsk

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To: Archangelsk
Simple question. Why destroy it if you don't have something to hide.

Question is, was he ordered to, and if so, by whom.

Expect no answers.
21 posted on 05/06/2004 11:27:26 AM PDT by swarthyguy
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To: Cicero
Because as usual there is yet another cover-up.
22 posted on 05/06/2004 11:27:59 AM PDT by keysguy (Give the rats enough rope....)
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To: Archangelsk
The taping began before noon on Sept. 11 at the New York Air Route Traffic Control Center

the planes had already crashed by this time and other where being grounded so what is the point of recording anything now?
23 posted on 05/06/2004 11:28:34 AM PDT by boxerblues
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To: Archangelsk
The center manager had agreed with the president of the local union chapter, that the tapes would be destroyed once the standard written statements were obtained, the report said.

These union goons will be the death of us all...
24 posted on 05/06/2004 11:28:39 AM PDT by motzman (Kerry's Haircut: Operation Shear Shrek)
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To: Archangelsk
it was later destroyed by an F.A.A. quality-assurance manager, who crushed the cassette in his hand, cut the tape into little pieces and dropped them in different trash cans around the building,

The quality-assurance manager told investigators that he had destroyed the tape because he thought making it was contrary to F.A.A. policy, which calls for written statements, and because he felt that the controllers "were not in the correct frame of mind to have properly consented to the taping" because of the stress of the day.

Lying piece of crap. He deliberately destroyed them because for some reason he wanted to make damned sure NO ONE would EVER listen to them.

25 posted on 05/06/2004 11:32:08 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Even if the government took all your earnings, you wouldn't be, in its eyes, a slave.)
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To: boxerblues
To get it while it was fresh on their minds.
26 posted on 05/06/2004 11:32:48 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Even if the government took all your earnings, you wouldn't be, in its eyes, a slave.)
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To: Archangelsk
The FAA fat-asses cover their butts yet again.
27 posted on 05/06/2004 11:40:53 AM PDT by pabianice
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To: Archangelsk
"contemporaneous recordation"... only from guvmint people!
28 posted on 05/06/2004 11:52:00 AM PDT by BillyCrockett
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To: Archangelsk
"Nonetheless, Mr. Martin said that "we have taken appropriate disciplinary action against the employees involved." For privacy reasons, he said, he could not say what those actions were or identify the employees. "

Who's privacy? You mean the person paid by US Taxpayers dollars? This is not their medical records or history of beating their wife. This person was on the US Taxpayer's payroll at the time.

Screw the people is the governments motto.

29 posted on 05/06/2004 11:53:07 AM PDT by Wurlitzer (I have the biggest organ in my town {;o))
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To: swarthyguy
The existence of this tape and its subsequent destruction proves beyond all possible doubt that Bush knew about 9/11 in advance and orchestrated those events that day. Clearly, because that tape was destroyed, Rumsfeld and Cheney were coordinating the eventual invasion and occupation of Iraq and the theft of all that oil so that they and their rich friends could make even more money. blah blah blah

You're right. Fuel for the fire. Websites will be devoted to conspiracies about the implications of that tape and its possible content.
30 posted on 05/06/2004 11:55:19 AM PDT by SittinYonder (I am a believer)
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To: Archangelsk
Good for him! He made a moral judgement. About time people began making more of those.
31 posted on 05/06/2004 11:55:32 AM PDT by bvw
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To: Archangelsk
The quality-assurance manager told investigators that he had destroyed the tape because he thought making it was contrary to F.A.A. policy, which calls for written statements, and because he felt that the controllers "were not in the correct frame of mind to have properly consented to the taping" because of the stress of the day....The center manager had agreed with the president of the local union chapter that the tapes would be destroyed once the standard written statements were obtained, the report said.

With so many questions unanswered, it is premature to jump to conclusions, but it certainly sounds like this may have been a holdover. There seems to be all the hallmarks of a Gorelick legalistic mindset at work.

32 posted on 05/06/2004 11:59:22 AM PDT by Diddle E. Squat
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To: SittinYonder
Personally I blame the wildeyed conspiracy theories on many many unanswered questions about 911 and the perpetrators, and why the Govt, has given some of them, like the Saudis, such a huge pass in the war on a tactic. This leads to some real farout speculation.

Too many questions still.

33 posted on 05/06/2004 12:02:26 PM PDT by swarthyguy
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To: Diddle E. Squat
To clarify, this is more likely is a result of a legalistic/bereaucratic/butt-covering pattern of response, rather than an express attempt to cover up something damning.
34 posted on 05/06/2004 12:02:59 PM PDT by Diddle E. Squat
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To: Archangelsk
If you want to put this in the proper context, consider this list of "facts" about 9/11 that aren't really facts at all -- they are based entirely on what our government and media have told us:

1. The number of hijackers on 9/11.
2. The method or methods they used to hijack the aircraft (the boxcutters were only identified on one of the aircraft).
3. The agenda of these hijackers.
4. Zacarias Moussaoui was supposed to be the 20th hijacker.

35 posted on 05/06/2004 12:05:35 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("Ego numquam pronunciare mendacium . . . sed ego sum homo indomitus" -- William Wallace (Mel Gibson))
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To: Alberta's Child
>>(the boxcutters were only identified on one of the aircraft).

Remember the discredited FBI/FAA memo about the gun?
36 posted on 05/06/2004 12:08:00 PM PDT by swarthyguy
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To: swarthyguy
Too many questions still.

Like who bought all the "puts" on United and American Airlines stock a few days prior. The feds never did answer that one.

37 posted on 05/06/2004 12:16:11 PM PDT by snopercod (I used to be disgusted. Then I became amused. Now I'm disgusted again.)
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To: snopercod
I remember the FBI agents saying, once we track the money trail we'll know exactly where it leads, to the perps and we'll nail 'em.

Well, I'm sure we found out and because it leads to the Saudi Royals, among others, for political reasons, we, the people who were attacked were deigned too unimportant to be told.
38 posted on 05/06/2004 12:18:31 PM PDT by swarthyguy
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To: Archangelsk
I'm not an FAA expert, but doing this puts an empty pit in my stomach.

This guy needs to be on the beach from ARTCC. Unbelievable.
39 posted on 05/06/2004 12:48:33 PM PDT by bootless (Never Forget - And Never Again)
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To: Archangelsk
Before you start pointing a finger of blame recognize the following: ATC was able to put more than 6000 planes on the ground in 30 minutes. Considering the circumstances, that is beyond extraordinary.

I will give credit to the controllers themselves, but like many bureacracies, the problem is not with them, but with management.

40 posted on 05/06/2004 12:58:00 PM PDT by af_vet_rr
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