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Law to keep brain-damaged woman alive ruled unconstitutional (Baird Rules Against Terri)
Sun-Sentinel ^ | May 6 2004

Posted on 05/06/2004 11:07:29 AM PDT by nickcarraway

TAMPA -- A judge ruled Thursday that the law pushed by Gov. Jeb Bush to keep a severely brain damaged woman alive is unconstitutional. The governor's office filed an immediate appeal.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: courts; florida; hospice; law; medicine; righttolife; schiavo; terrischiavo
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To: tutstar
Those Nazgul aka judges are not incompetent.

They are evil.

Why more people don't see a reincarnation of the Third Reich is beyond me.

This is exactly how Hitler started his "ethnic cleansing" program. Get rid of the useless eaters who have no "quality of life".

It is so disgusting, wrong, and blatantly evil that it turns my stomach. I wish I was near FL so I could go Freep too.

Judges like these #$%#^$^!! need to be driven from their positions, one way or another.
81 posted on 05/06/2004 3:25:22 PM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: nickcarraway
From what I understand, we have nothing to indicate Terri Schiavo wanted to die except her husband's word. Also, what is the issue is merely removing here feeding and hydration (water) tubes. Can this be considered 'forcing' someone to live? It sounds to me it's just being given the necessary food and water we all require. It's not unique that an individual is not able to care for himself (herself in this case). I assume M.S. is the legal guardian and that's what gives him the legal authority to prevent her from being fed. In general, this ultimately means that a guardian can decide if his or her charge can be killed by the simple expediency of claiming they 'chose' to die in and then denying food and water to them. I'm not aware of anyone who would NOT eventually die if denied these things. (As an aside, if she can be denied food and water, can she also be denied oxygen?)
82 posted on 05/06/2004 3:26:44 PM PDT by nosofar
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To: Pegita; All
Agreeing with you in prayer, Pegita, for this mother's child, and for all those innocents who will come after her.

Thank you for your words, as always, when I have only incoherent tears.

The story is not over yet. May she be saved, and may this barbaric legal precedent not be set, for if it is, we are lost as a nation.
83 posted on 05/06/2004 3:27:54 PM PDT by Artlover
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To: pc93
I agree pc!! I heard this this morning. Far as I can see, your Constitution, which is one of the greatest documents ever written, next to the Bible, has been thoroughly pi$$ed on until it no longer even resembles what the founders intended. God help our Countries!!
84 posted on 05/06/2004 3:33:24 PM PDT by Canadian Outrage
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To: little jeremiah
Yes they are evil. The mass populus would relate more to the incompetent factor than the evil one and that's why I used that terminology. I've been gone for nearly two weeks and have fallen behind on my work toward petitioning for King, Greer, and Baird to be removed from office. I don't want to leave any doubt in anyone's mind why they need to be booted!
I'm a WWII history buff and have done a lot of posting of the Nazi's philosophy and work towards eliminating those who are 'useless' eaters. Why anyone can't see that America is headed down the same path is beyond me.
85 posted on 05/06/2004 3:35:21 PM PDT by tutstar ( <{{--->< http://ripe4change.4-all.org)
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To: pc93
Thanks for your comments, I know they come right from your heart. Thanks for standing up for one who can't stand up for herself.

Each soul is precious in God's eyes, and if we don't see each soul as precious too, that means we aren't seeing correctly and we aren't pleasing to Him.
86 posted on 05/06/2004 3:36:03 PM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: All
Prayers for Terri sent!

Vote all judges out of office.Every one of them.Every chance you get.
And whatever you do, dont come to Florida if you want to stay live.If this stands, we can expect our elderly and disabled to die,in great numbers, of forced starvation.
88 posted on 05/06/2004 3:49:18 PM PDT by sarasmom (Watching mainstream liberal media "news reports" will cause brain atrophy.)
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To: Wheee The People; All
In November, Judge Baird said IN COURT that the law was 'presumptively unconstitutional'. That is even though constitutionality is PRESUMED and the buden of proof is on the person(s) challenging the law.

Later, he denied a request from the Governor that he be served in the same county the law was written, even though the Governor enjoys 'home plate' privilege on such things.

Later, he blocked the parents from intervening, even though they have a demonstratable legal interest in the outcome of the case.

Later, he denied the Governor a jury trial.

Then, he denied the Governor discovery.

Then, he denied the Governor access to depositioning witnesses.

Then, he accepted a request to issue a summary judgment.

All of these things (save 1, maybe) were sent right back to him from the 2nd DCA, citing that he did not follow the rule of law.

That being said, Baird was transferred to criminal court some months ago, but of all the cases in his work load, he decided to hang on to this particular one and not pass it along to his predecessor.

There might very well be a heavenly father, but when did that job title go to a gin-blossom wearing good old boy in a black robe?
89 posted on 05/06/2004 3:50:18 PM PDT by phenn (http://www.terrisfight.org)
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To: nickcarraway
Terri Schiavo was left severely brain damaged more than 14 years ago after her heart stopped beating because of chemical imbalance brought on by an eating disorder.

What a lying sack of s***!

90 posted on 05/06/2004 3:50:24 PM PDT by BykrBayb (5 minutes of prayer for Terri, every day at 11 a.m. EDT, until she's safe.)
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To: nickcarraway
The culture of death marches on.
Liberals want to right to kill anyone who is defenseless.
They only object to the killing of terrorists and murderers. Go figure.
91 posted on 05/06/2004 3:52:14 PM PDT by ladyinred (Kerry has more flip flops than Waikiki Beach)
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To: nosofar
There is also the testimony of her best friend, who said that 2 years before Terri's sudden collapse, Terri and she had been watching a movie on Karen Ann Quinlan, and Terri told her friend, "as long as there is life, there is hope"...and that she did not believe life support should be removed from a person in a coma!

Terri also told a friend that she was thinking of getting a divorce!

Now, if an off handed comment, that MS says Terri made, is enough to have her killed...what about those comments she told her friends? Can't these two comments get her a divorce and save her life?
92 posted on 05/06/2004 3:55:34 PM PDT by tuckrdout (Terri Schindler (Schiavo) deserves to have her wishes honored: Give her a DIVORCE!)
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To: nickcarraway
This judge is going to hell.
93 posted on 05/06/2004 3:56:40 PM PDT by aruanan
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To: sandbar
In the Axis of Evil also known as the Sixth Circuit, Judges take cases with them when they change positions. Terri's case went to the Criminal Courthouse Complex with BAIRDY BOY. (none are worthy of being called "your honor".

I was at the last Schiavo v. Jeb hearing. Bairdy Boy slumped down in his chair and his face was RED. It looked to me as if he was going to SIDE WITH HINO but felt a little ashamed THAT HE WOULD BE DOING SO.

We need NATIONAL HELP BIG TIME NOW. EVERY STATE..... I don't trust the Second DCA.

By the way, TERRI CAN SWALLOW. She doesn't drool. She swallows her saliva.

94 posted on 05/06/2004 4:00:54 PM PDT by floriduh voter (www.conservative-spirit.org/ TERRIS FIGHT NEWS & Terri Link Exchanges)
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To: hattend
But waste an ENTIRE U.S. HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVE SESSION TODAY tied in knots over some iraqi men. "What was done to them was not the American way."

WELL, IS DOING THIS TO TERRI THE AMERICAN WAY? IT'S THE NAZI GERMANY WAY.

95 posted on 05/06/2004 4:02:21 PM PDT by floriduh voter (www.conservative-spirit.org/ TERRIS FIGHT NEWS & Terri Link Exchanges)
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To: Canticle_of_Deborah
The Clintoid federal judge rejected hearing the case last fall: the feds won't touch it. They have no sympathy for life issues.
96 posted on 05/06/2004 4:04:40 PM PDT by Theodore R. (When will they ever learn?)
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To: wisconsinconservative; All; russesjunjee
Your bumper sticker will be in the mail tomorrow.

All, please talk to two strangers about Terri and ask them to sign up at fight4terri@aol.com or to visit freerepublic.com to join our ongoing call to action.

I grabbed two telemarketers at BAIRD'S COURTHOUSE where I held a mini-rally with my FREE TERRI JAIL THE REST SIGN. We must fight fire with fire until there's nothing else we can do.

97 posted on 05/06/2004 4:04:44 PM PDT by floriduh voter (www.conservative-spirit.org/ TERRIS FIGHT NEWS & Terri Link Exchanges)
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To: Wheee The People
Should I be unable to speak for myself, she and not the court, the church, or the state or anyone else (other than God) is empowered to decide the manner of my death.

Funny how some people want to retain their own rights, but they don't think Terri deserves the same rights. You don't think the court, the church, or the state has the right to decide that you must be murdered, but you sure are anxious to see it happen to Terri. That's pretty sick.

98 posted on 05/06/2004 4:08:03 PM PDT by BykrBayb (5 minutes of prayer for Terri, every day at 11 a.m. EDT, until she's safe.)
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To: pc93
The litigation against Jeb tied him up in court so he couldn't act outside of the parameters of the lawsuit. UNFORTUNATELY, for the first time in history of the United States, a defendant in a Civil case was denied the right to take depositions and do discovery. Every defendant in a Civil Case has the right to defend themselves, unless it's about TERRI. Where's JOHN ASHCROFT, USAG? Janet Reno kidnapped Elian Gonzalez. Why can't JOHN ASHCROFT legally RESCUE TERRI???????
99 posted on 05/06/2004 4:08:51 PM PDT by floriduh voter (www.conservative-spirit.org/ TERRIS FIGHT NEWS & Terri Link Exchanges)
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To: pollywog
Get a life!!!!

That's what he's trying to do. The problem is, he's trying to get Terri's life.

100 posted on 05/06/2004 4:13:10 PM PDT by BykrBayb (5 minutes of prayer for Terri, every day at 11 a.m. EDT, until she's safe.)
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