Posted on 05/05/2004 10:17:43 AM PDT by kellynla
WASHINGTON — A former Navy doctor who says he treated Sen. John F. Kerry for the wound that led to his first Purple Heart in Vietnam said Tuesday that several of Kerry's crewmates told medical personnel at the time that the injury did not occur in battle.
(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...
IIRC, the "action" that led to PH#1 took place while Jf'n was quite new in country. Probably undergoing a standard "training regimen" prior to joining his actual combat unit.
If he fired an M79 into the nearby shoreline as has been reported, this would be a typical mistake of an FNG. The shrapnel from that 40mm round could easily have hit him and the others. So, it was technically a self inflicted wound.
In the absence of any enemy fire the only other explanation I can come up with is that he might have cut himself intentionally and forced the piece of found shrapnel into the wound.
LOL - Here's another one, compliments of Monty Python's Flying Circus:
Bravely bold Sir Kerry Rode forth to VietNam.
He was not afraid to die,
Oh brave Sir Kerry.
He was not at all afraid
To be killed in nasty ways.
Brave, brave, brave, brave Sir Kerry.
He was not in the least bit scared
To be mashed into a pulp.
Or to have his eyes gouged out,
And his elbows broken.
To have his kneecaps split
And his body burned away,
And his limbs all hacked and mangled
Brave Sir Kerry.
His head smashed in
And his heart cut out
And his liver removed
And his bowls unplugged
And his nostrils raped
And his bottom burnt off
And his pen--
"That's... that's enough music for now lads, there's dirty work afoot."
Brave Sir Kerry ran away.
("No!")
Bravely ran away away.
("I didn't!")
When danger reared it's ugly head,
He bravely turned his tail and fled.
("I never!")
Yes, brave Sir Kerry turned about
And gallantly he chickened out.
("You're lying!")
Swiftly taking to his feet,
He beat a very brave retreat.
Bravest of the braaaave, Sir Kerry!
"They did not receive any fire from shore," he wrote, "but said that Kerry had fired a mortar round at close range to some rocks on shore. The crewmen thought that the injury was caused by a fragment ricocheting from that mortar round when it struck the rocks."
When I first saw this explanation, I thought that it was an impossibility, in that (I thought) an 81mm couldn't fire a round close enough to itself, to wound the crew with shrapnel.
Upon further research, I find that it is POSSIBLE, if unlikely. The 81 used on swift boats could be depressed to MINUS 30 degrees. (To do so, it had a "fire by trigger" mechanism.)
Also, they had a "Beehive round" (see below). If "captain" Kerry fired at some rocks, 10 feet away, he might have been struck by a piece of a flechette. That would account for the shape of the "shrapnel" the Dr. described.
The Mk 2 Mod 1 could traverse 360 degrees, elevate to 71.5 degrees, and
depress to -30 degrees. It fired in one of two modes: DROP FIRE or
TRIGGER FIRE. Rate of fire at 45 degrees for DROP FIRE was 18
rounds/minute and 10 rounds/minute in TRIGGER FIRE.
Cartridges used by the 81mm mortar are:
M43-series HE - Light (as used in WW2 81mm M1 mortars)
M362-series HE - Heavy (as used in 81mm M29 mortars)
M374-series HE - Heavy (as used in 81mm M29 mortars)
M301-series HE - Heavy (as used in 81mm M29 mortars)
M57-series WP Smoke - Heavy (for M29 mortars)
M375-series WP Smoke - Heavy (for M29 mortars)
Mk 112 Mod 0 Leaflet (used only by Mk 2 mortars)
Mk 115 Mod 0 Chaff (used only by Mk 2 mortars)
Mk 133 Mod 0 Chaff (used only by Mk 2 mortars)
Mk 134 Mod 0 Chaff (used only by Mk 2 mortars)
Mk 135 Mod 0 Chaff (used only by Mk 2 mortars)
Mk 120 Mod 0 APERS (used only by Mk 2 mortars)
Training
The HE rounds came in either point detonating, proximity, or mechanical
time fusing. The WP Smoke rounds were point detonating or mechanical
time fused. The Illumination rounds were mechanical time fused. The chaff
and leaflet rounds were mechanical time fused.
The Mk 120 Mod 0 cartridge was fuseless round. Its body resembled a WW2
German "potato masher" hand grenade with a large can-shaped container
for 1,200 13-grain flechettes; a petal-shaped drag ring in the middle of the
shaft; and fins on the end of the shaft. The Fin assembly Mk 4 Mod 1
contained the ignition cartridge M6, primer M34, and attachment point for
seven increment charges M2A1. No explosive filler was used. The effective
range of the cartridge was 10 to 600 feet. The cartridge is painted olive drab
with a 1/2-inch brown band marked with white diamonds and carries the
following description stenciled in white: "CARTRIDGE, 81MM,
ANTI-PERSONNEL, MK 120 MOD 0." Overall length of the loaded
cartridge was 12.62 inches.
When fired, the burning propellant gases would melt a fusible plug in the
bottom of the flechette carrier end. the gas would expand into a chamber
topped by a plate (piston) the piston would move forward, carrying the
flechettes with it, break the plastic cover, and be expelled in a cone-shaped
pattern effective out to 600 feet. Drop at 600 feet was approximately 6 feet
(or nil) which made it perfect for the direct fire role.
The Mk 120 Mod 0 cartridge turned the 81mm mortar into a giant shotgun.
It was typically used in the TRIGGER FIRE role where the devastating
effect of its 1,200 flechettes could be a tactical advantage. You wouldn't want
to stick your head up within 600 feet of this nasty swarm of killer-bees.
Well, he certainly is a pathological liar, which is a significant BJ Clinton personality trait. I am concinced that Clinton is a sociopath. Kerry, IMO, can only be viewed as EXTREMELY dangerous to the health of the Republic.
Gosh! Kerry starts a million dollar blitz claiming to be a war hero and they are shocked--just shocked--that they have attracted enough attention to get numerous conflicting accounts.
Have never heard that Kerry's 'Band O' Brothers' alleges he was a great and valued soldier.
Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.