Rush: Outrage Over Iraqi Prisoner Torture Comparable to Outrage Over Tailhook Scandal

Rush Limbaugh Show ^ | 5/4/2004 | myself

[Pyro7480]

As he was closing out his show today, Rush Limbaugh stated that the media hype over the Iraqi prisoner torture and one reporter's comparison of the torture to Saddam's regime (and the media's lack of outrage over it) is comparable to the media hype over Tailhook scandal, and the comparable lack of outrage of the storming of the Waco compound.

[Pyro7480]

Your comments please.

[RightWhale]

Nobody in the rest of the world cared about Tailhook or about Waco, but this one is different. Those who consider they are at war with America care a lot about this one. It won't go away in 100 years. Remember, they are still fighting battles of 800 years ago.

[Mr. Mojo]

There would've been no scandal whatsoever if the soldiers immediately executed these terrorists - something they should've done, after the appropriate interogations of course - instead of messing around with acts of "humiliation" and "degredation" for the cameras.

[Monty22]

I like your line of thinking.

[kms61]

Rush is dead wrong about this IMHO.

[watchin]

The only thing these atrocities should be compared with are those of Kerry.

I'd like to see a reporter ask him directly how these recent revelations are diferent from the things he admitted to.

[PolitBase]

Rush is a bozo.

[CatoRenasci]

The soldiers who did this, regardless of their intentions, have done truly serious harm to the United States. While I don't know all of the facts and circumstances, I'm inclinde to think all of them need to be reduced in rank to E-1, forfeit all pay and allwances, and spend several years in Leavenworth at hard labor to be followed by dishonorable dischanges. And that won't begin to adequately punish them for the harm they have caused America.

[cake_crumb]

I want the guilty punished...and the media hype to stop. There was no outrage over Saddam's rape rooms. I'm tired of the we need to hold ourselves to a higher standard balony, because WE DO HOLD OURSELVES TO A HIGHER STANDARD. THE FACT THAT THESE PEOPLE ARE INCARCERATED AND COURT MARTIAL PROCEDINGS HAVE BEGUN PROVES THAT.

That said, Rush was trying to help, his heart was in the right place, but he's off base on this one. Not way off. Just a little off. The media intends of getting any facts totally buried under megatonnage of hyped outrage. Gleefully keeping the Arab world in a frenzy.

[PISANO]

Rush is dead wrong about this IMHO.

I respectfully disagree. The media is going apoplectic about Iraqi prisoner degradation and humiliation EQUATING it to SADDAM'S systematic torture of the Iraqi people. That VERY question was framed in exact terms equating our troops to Saddam, today by a reporter to the SECDEF. What our troops did to those prisoners was NOT TORTURE.

He is also accurate in depicting the media's reaction to TAILHOOK vs. it's reaction to WACO. The hatred of our military and of the GOP is quite obvious even to a casual observer.

[watchin]

Those soldiers have certainly done monumental harm to our cause. Your suggested punishments are well within the realm of justice.

But when the dems try to make hay out of this, and somehow pin it on Bush ... the "Kerry is a war criminal" movement should begin.

Has Kerry had the kahunas to even mention this story yet? If so, I've missed it, or slept through it.

[Esther Ruth]

I agree with Rush, these were very stupid and crude pranks - but they were not evil. Evil is the Saudis and all else saying day after day that the Jews are the poison of the world.

[MACVSOG68]

There would've been no scandal whatsoever if the soldiers immediately executed these terrorists - something they should've done, after the appropriate interogations of course

Yes, that would certainly have put us on the moral highground....

[GoldHorde]

So far - I haven't seen anything of evidence of activity beyond a low-key college hazing.

[Mr. Mojo]

If you think it's immoral to execute terrorists - we're not talking about innocent Iraqi civilians here - in the middle of a war, then you're part of the problem.

[swarthyguy]

By George, I think he's lost it. Rush has.

A total misunderstanding of how this is playing.

This is a systematic process used by military intel.
Who approved. Effective tactics for breaking people down, but the breakdown is in the pictures and horsing around and a command structure that assigns no responsibility.

I mean, Karpinski did not have control over these cellblocks. So who did? BlackWater, CACI, the CIA, the Pentagon.

Ignorance is not an excuse.

Personally, I think you have to go to the top. Rumsfeld. Myers. Abizaid. Sanchez. Lines of authority. Responsibility of command.

Excuses are for wimps. ANd that's all we're hearing right now.

[Esther Ruth]

These discussions remind me of the scene in Patriot w Mel Gibson where after he and his sons go after the Brits for killing his other son, he totally looses it and has so much rage in him because of how the Brits provoked him w their injustice - that he gets just a wee bit to violent. It happens but it does not make Benjamin Martin evil - it makes him a human being who wanted nothing to do w this war, was pushed into it and is very overwhelmed w the emotions that are forced on him, while having to deal with the contents of war, which are murdering the bad guys.

[cake_crumb]

They're trying to bring back the '70's anti-war movement. Along with all the resultant condemnation of ALL of our troops.

[cake_crumb]

Are you going to call for Rummy's resignation because of the actions of a few idiots?