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Post-Saddam Crimes at Abu Ghraib
NRO ^ | May 03, 2004 | Jed Babbin

Posted on 05/03/2004 6:39:18 PM PDT by neverdem

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Post-Saddam Crimes at Abu Ghraib
Punish and learn.

By Jed Babbin

Saddam's regime made the Abu Ghraib prison complex a place where torture and murder were commonplace. When the Iraqi regime fell, so did most of Abu Ghraib. Now partly rebuilt, it is the prison where hundreds of Iraqi detainees, foreign insurgents, and prisoners of war are kept under the custody of one battalion of the Army's 800th Military Police Brigade. Last year, some military police and intelligence personnel abused a number of prisoners, in violation of the Geneva Conventions and common decency. The report of an army investigation documents both the crimes and lapses in the intelligence system that is supposed to capture and pass along information obtained in interrogations.

The Third Geneva Convention of 1949 states, in part, that, "Prisoners of war must at all times be humanely treated. Any unlawful act or omission by the Detaining Power causing death or seriously endangering the health of a prisoner of war in its custody is prohibited, and will be regarded as a serious breach of the present Convention...prisoners of war must at all times be protected, particularly against acts of violence or intimidation and against insults and public curiosity." Dated February 26, 2004, the 50-odd-page investigation report, which I have obtained, states that a pattern of prisoner abuse existed for several months. The details are sickening.

Among the abuses found by the Army investigators are those the press has splashed all over the world. Soldiers are alleged to have engaged in, "punching, slapping, and kicking detainees...forcibly arranging detainees in various sexually explicit positions for photographing...forcing groups of male detainees to masturbate themselves while being photographed and videotaped...[and] placing a dog chain or strap around a naked detainee's neck and having a female soldier pose for a picture...." The investigators, "...reviewed numerous photos and videos of actual detainee abuse taken by detention facility personnel...." The handful of soldiers who took those videos must have wanted photographic proof of how tough they were on their captives. Instead, they produced evidence that should land them in Leavenworth for decades to come. There, they will have plenty of time to think about what they did.

The investigating officer, Major General Antonio Taguba, found that, "...between October and December 2003, numerous incidents of sadistic, blatant and wanton criminal abuses were inflicted on several detainees...by several members of the military police guard force." As a result of the investigation, the commanding general of the prison, Brigadier General Janis Karpinski, has been suspended from duty. The report recommends that she be relieved of command for cause. Several suspects are named in the report, including one civilian translator who works for Titan Corporation. The Army Criminal Investigation Division is investigating further, and has already recommended courts martial against some of the perpetrators. Several have confessed, and others have asserted their Fifth Amendment rights. At this writing, six soldiers have been charged with crimes and will be court martialed.

We have to handle this right. The courts martial should be open to any media that want to attend — even al-Jazeera — and the perpetrators' names dragged through the mud. Those who are guilty should be imprisoned for as long as the law allows. No plea bargains, no deals — just the max. As a result of their actions, these few have dishonored their country and every soldier, sailor, airman, and Marine who now serve. And they have created a firestorm of anger at the American presence in Iraq that reaches all through that country and the whole region. The damage they have done will reverberate throughout the process of forming the new Iraqi government. By trying the perps publicly and quickly, and imposing the harshest sentences possible, we can begin to repair the damage.

Karpinski is defending herself by passing the blame to others. She told the New York Times that, "...she knew nothing about the abuse until weeks after it occurred and that she was "sickened" by the pictures. She said the prison cellblock where the abuse occurred was under the tight control of Army military intelligence officers who may have encouraged the abuse." Though Karpinski is clearly culpable, she shouldn't shoulder all the blame. Others clearly should — and will — share it.

Taguba's report recommends that Col. Tom Pappas, the military intelligence chief at Abu Graib, receive a General Officer's Memorandum of Reprimand, and be investigated for possible criminal prosecution. Taguba's report strongly recommends that Pappas, and his subordinate, Lt. Col. Steve Jordan, be subjected to disciplinary action. Two civilians working with them — Steven Stephanowicz and John Israel, both employees of the CACI firm — are also recommended for possible prosecution.

As serious as the prisoner abuse was, we must remember that these crimes were the acts of a few, and have no relationship to the conduct of the tens of thousands of Americans who have fought in this war. There will be those who — like John Kerry 30 years ago — say that war crimes by Americans are the norm, not the exception. It was false then, and it is just as false now. Let the Noam Chomskys of the world say whatever echoes in their own empty heads: The record of the American soldier in every war beginning with the Revolution has been one of defending humanity while defending freedom.

Lost in the media frenzy over the abuses is one critical conclusion of the Army investigation: The Taguba report reveals a systemic problem with military intelligence. Solving that will, in the long run, be more important to winning the war than dealing with the few dirt bags who beat the prisoners.

The Taguba report quotes an earlier Army investigation into the problems at Abu Ghraib, which was not about the abuse of prisoners. The earlier investigation, by Major General Geoffrey Miller, briefly assessed the effectiveness of the military intelligence unit, Coalition Joint Task Force 7, in obtaining useful information from the detainees. Miller's report found that, "...CJTF-7 did not have authorities and procedures in place to affect (sic) a unified strategy to detain, interrogate, and report information from detainees/internees in Iraq." The fact that there was not such a strategy from the beginning proves only one thing: The commanders responsible for creating CJTF-7 didn't do their job. Why bother to interrogate prisoners at all if we don't have a mechanism in place to gather, evaluate, integrate, and make best use of what they tell us? Time after time after time, our intelligence apparatus fails us. Whether it's the CIA or the military intelligence people interrogating prisoners in Iraq, they all seem to have one thing in common: The inability to fuse the intelligence we get from many sources, and use the information to help us both defend our nation and take the fight to the enemy.

If, as Taguba says, the mechanism to do that was not in place in Abu Ghraib, how can we be sure it is in Guantanamo Bay, in Afghanistan, or anywhere else terrorists and prisoners of war are held? Right now, we can't.

Jed Babbin, an NRO contributor, is author of the forthcoming book, Inside the Asylum: Why the U.N. and Old Europe are Worse than You Think.

 

     


 

 
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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: District of Columbia; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: genevaconventions; iraq; iraqipow; jedbabbin; militaryintelligence; militarypolice; mp
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1 posted on 05/03/2004 6:39:18 PM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem
just plain stupid. Stupid stupid stupid.
2 posted on 05/03/2004 6:40:53 PM PDT by PolitBase
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To: neverdem
Thhe Geneva Convention doesn't apply to illegal combatants such as these.
3 posted on 05/03/2004 6:47:24 PM PDT by Reactionary
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To: neverdem
I'm seeing one of those pesky horizontal scroll bars. Could someone please reformat?
4 posted on 05/03/2004 6:53:34 PM PDT by yooper (If you don't know where you're going, any road will take you there......)
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To: neverdem
The Third Geneva Convention of 1949 states, in part, that, "Prisoners of war must at all times be humanely treated. Any unlawful act or omission by the Detaining Power causing death or seriously endangering the health of a prisoner of war in its custody is prohibited, and will be regarded as a serious breach of the present Convention...prisoners of war must at all times be protected, particularly against acts of violence or intimidation and against insults and public curiosity."

Right, kind of like raping them, shooting them, beheading them while they're alive, burning them to death, threatening them with the same, and doing a whole host of other things that these same people who are outraged by some lewd actions yet nothing life threatening don't seem to even care about b/c the people doing them do them as a part of their "religious services."

5 posted on 05/03/2004 6:57:14 PM PDT by Dick Grayson
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To: neverdem
Thanks for posting. Can't see where I disagree with Babbin.
6 posted on 05/03/2004 7:05:20 PM PDT by secretagent
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To: Reactionary
Thhe Geneva Convention doesn't apply to illegal combatants such as these.

Seymore Hirsch(sp?), who wrote an article in the "New Yorker" that's getting a lot of publicity, has been on a bunch of talking head news programs saying that many of these prisoners on innocent shmucks caught in sweeps and night-time raids, that they didn't surrender in combat.

7 posted on 05/03/2004 7:09:52 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi min oi)
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To: neverdem
It seems to me there had to be some kind of homos doing this, but I haven't read anything about this. Anyway, this incident does give further ammo to gays not belonging in the military.
8 posted on 05/03/2004 8:04:48 PM PDT by RushingWater
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To: neverdem
We have to handle this right. The courts martial should be open to any media that want to attend — even al-Jazeera — and the perpetrators' names dragged through the mud. Those who are guilty should be imprisoned for as long as the law allows. No plea bargains, no deals

I agree 100%.

I would go further by having a court Marshal in Baghdad. The sentences must be stiff and the General in charge of this mess must do time.

All the Iraqi anti American media needs to be there. No expense should be spared in getting this message out loud and clear with no hesitation or delay.

This is without a doubt, the most sick thing that I have ever seen connected with the military police.

During my years in the Army, I found them to be a pretty raunchy bunch, but I never would have suspected that this would be possible.

They have done untold damage to our mission in Iraq and all future and past missions as well.

This must be dealt with quickly, seriously and severely. Heads must roll!

9 posted on 05/03/2004 8:42:17 PM PDT by Cold Heat (Politicians are interested in people. Not that this is always a virtue. Fleas are interested in dogs)
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To: Dick Grayson
You mean like this, this, or this? WARNING: GRAPHIC!
10 posted on 05/03/2004 8:50:10 PM PDT by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: wirestripper
Yes, it is important that we show the world that America will not stand for this type of behavior from our troops or brass. The people involved should be handed over to the Iraqis on June 30th and let their new government put them on trial for War Crimes.

At the very least it will show the world that we take this kind of crap seriously and may prevent a future American GI that is taken prisoner from being tortured or killed.
11 posted on 05/03/2004 8:53:19 PM PDT by pete anderson
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To: pete anderson
Yes, these people should consider their remaining lives over.

If we do not turn this bad situation into a good demonstration of American justice, we are in deep excrement.

12 posted on 05/03/2004 9:00:05 PM PDT by Cold Heat (Politicians are interested in people. Not that this is always a virtue. Fleas are interested in dogs)
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To: pete anderson
The people involved should be handed over to the Iraqis on June 30th and let their new government put them on trial for War Crimes.

No way Jose. That's why we have status of forces agreements with our allies. That's what protects our military personnel overseas from foreign justice systems. Maybe you think they should have Islamic Justice as in Sharia? Let them have their day in our court. This is enough of a can of worms.

13 posted on 05/03/2004 9:27:52 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi min oi)
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To: neverdem
In order to protect our current and future military forces America must show the world that we view the 'crimes' committed against the Iraqi prisoners as horrendous as they are viewed by the Iraqi people. Otherwise, the next American GI to be taken hostage will have to pay for the sins of the GIs in the pictures and will have unspeakable things done to them.
14 posted on 05/03/2004 9:44:00 PM PDT by pete anderson
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To: wirestripper
If we do not turn this bad situation into a good demonstration of American justice, we are in deep excrement.

Not only are we in deep do-do but 100 years from now when our great-great grandchildren are patrolling the streets of some middle eastern nation, Egypt, Iran, Iraq, Sudan, Jordan, Saudi etc the opposing forces will have the pictures of what was done to their great-great-great grandfathers and will take their frustrations out on the Americans.

In America, we have a very short memory, In the Middle East, events that occurred 1000 years ago may of well have occurred yesterday.

Most importantly, they do not forgive.

15 posted on 05/03/2004 9:49:40 PM PDT by pete anderson
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In order to protect our current and future military forces America must show the world that we view the 'crimes' committed against the Iraqi prisoners as horrendous as they are viewed by the Iraqi people.

Are you saying our military justice system can't do the job?

16 posted on 05/03/2004 9:56:15 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi min oi)
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To: neverdem
Bump for the morning
17 posted on 05/03/2004 10:03:55 PM PDT by Valin (Hating people is like burning down your house to kill a rat)
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To: neverdem
Are you saying our military justice system can't do the job?

No, but my opinion is not important. What is important is what the Iraqi people think is a fair adjudication of this case.

18 posted on 05/03/2004 10:08:29 PM PDT by pete anderson
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To: pete anderson
What is important is what the Iraqi people think is a fair adjudication of this case.

Would you be prepared to carry out what the Iraqi think is a fair adjudication?

Have you any Idea what the Iraqi think would be a fair adjudication?

19 posted on 05/03/2004 10:20:04 PM PDT by going hot (Happiness is a momma deuce)
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To: neverdem
Brig. Gen. Janis Karpinski (in charge of Iraqi prison where photos were taken)

7 More U.S. Soldiers Reprimanded for Abuse

Blackwater's best-kept secret: It's founder

20 posted on 05/03/2004 10:30:00 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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