Gorelick's Stonewall - Newly released memos contradict her 9/11 Commission assertions ~ WSJ.

The Wall Street Journal. ^ | May 3,2004 | WSJ. ED Board

[Elle Bee]

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[woofie]

Gorelick lied!!!!!

[rogueleader]

Any article that uses the word "sigh" as an argument gets an automatic skip the whole thing from me.

[TheEaglehasLanded]

Just more typical Democrat BS, go to their civil right groups and say look what we did for you. Then when people die say well Republicans didn't break the law to protect you even though we would have wanted them prosecuted had they broken it.

[Elle Bee]

that's an enviable standard ... not

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[Marak]

Guess you will never know what you missed.

[Smartass]

[MamaLucci]

The *sigh* isn't their argument, it is, rather, their reaction
to having to even MAKE an argument regarding Gorelick's
blatant conflict of interest.

[AirBorn]

If nothing is wrong? So then...Gorelick should tesify.

Like on that bill signed by all the Republican Senators demanding that full disclosure be made by EVERYBODY and ANYBODY that has any POSSIBLE information---If any EXTRA information could be added to the report to help PREVENT any chance at any FUTURE roadblocks/situations that could could hurt getting the security we need--why not tesify??

Oh!!--there WAS NO BILL signed by ANY REPUBLICANS Senators--like there WOULD BE IF IT WAS A REPUBLICAN holding stuff back!!- after finding out Gorelick could have had ANY involvement in hurting security efforts???

Some other poster--probly alot more intelligent than me posted this http://www.sacredcowburgers.com/parodies/what_wall.jpg

What are we now?--we don't charge people with anything if they stand by and say nothing if they saw a crime being commited and don't owe up to it?
or, do we put them on the JURY of the person who got CAUGHT doing that crime?

I don't know!

[MEG33]

FYI

[nopardons]

Then you don't belong here,newbie.

[Alia]

ROFL! That gif is A KEEPER! :)

[rogueleader]

"The *sigh* isn't their argument"

At this moement I will refrain from the thing that I hate.

Yes, the sigh is their argument!

I do realize that rhetoric is no longer considered a proper subject of youth, but this takes the cake. Are you truly that unfamiliar with what an argument is? The argument is not just the logical bits, it is also the emotional bits that stir the reader/audience to agree with the writer/speaker.

The sigh is used to express utter devastation at another's incomprehension of basic facts that all are presumed to understand. The purposeful sigh is heinous, whether written or spoken, not only because it nets so many weak-minded people into believing an argument that is not necessarily worthy of such belief, but more importantly because it expresses sheer contempt for the contrary position.

In debate between gentlemen, only fools express contempt for the contrary position. In that they express contempt all the time, liberals are showing themselves to be full of crap. I have been deeply impressed by the high level of logical thought that goes on here at FR. Surely FR is better than the venial tactic of the sigh.

The sigh is commonly used at muddleheaded sites like Slashdot and DU where misspellings, flagrant grammar errors, and dodgy argument are the rule.

Let us not fall into the same hellish pit. Let us not stoop so low as to use the sigh when making arguments.

[AirBorn]

I am still wondering: if george Bush supposedly picked the 5 members he wanted on, and Datchell picked the five from the Democrats he wanted on--wasn't there a "sit-Down" to discuss the picks by the two BEFORE the Comm. started this whole thing?

[nopardons]

Not really. The president wanted Kissinger to run things/be the commission's chairman.That got scotched pretty quickly by the Dems.

[ScaniaBoy]

Good to see that WSJ still keeps up the pressure on the Commission.

In my view one of the most important recent revelations regarding the memo is the fact that Ms Gorelick in probability lied when she stated in her op-ed piece that it was written to protect the prosecution in the two anti-terrorist trials at the time.

In a rebuttal former chief assistant U.S. attorney in NY Andrew C. McCarthy wrote (The Wall Truth: Gorelick provides the clearest proof yet that she should resign., Posted on 04/19/2004 9:57:46 AM EDT by xsysmgr):

By the time she penned her March 1995 memo, the first World Trade Center bombing prosecution had been over for a year and my case was in its third month of trial.

The only conceivable threat to eventual convictions would have been (a) if the prosecutors and agents in my case had learned information about defense strategy by virtue of the government's continuing investigation of some of our indicted defendants for possible new crimes; or (b) if the continuing investigation had turned up exculpatory information about the defendants in my case and I had not been told about it so I could disclose it. Far from being unique to national-security matters, that situation is a commonplace when the government deals with violent organizations (which tend to obstruct justice and routinely plot to kill or influence witnesses, prosecutors, and/or jurors, thus requiring continuing investigations even as already indicted cases proceed).

To avoid constitutional problems in such a situation, the government regularly assigns a prosecutor and agent who are not involved in the already indicted case to vet information from the continuing investigation before it is permitted to be communicated to agents and prosecutors on the indicted case. This way, the team on the indicted case learns only what it is allowed to know (viz., evidence of new crimes the defendants have committed), but not what it should not know (viz., defense strategy information and incriminating admissions about the indicted case made without the consent of counsel); and the government maintains the ability to reveal any exculpatory information (as federal law requires). As Gorelick's 1995 memorandum recounts, the U.S. attorney in the Southern District of New York had already made sure that was done in my case long before Gorelick's memo.

What remains is the very important question why she penned the memo at that time? That question Ms Gorelick should have to answer under oath.

[kcvl]

Attention: Thomas Kean


info@9-11Commission.gov

[ScaniaBoy]

PING!

More to be added to the Gorelick file.

[rogueleader]

Do you like the taste when you eat your own?

[MEG33]

Good Grief!..Oh,please!....SIGH...PIFFLE!