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To: MamaLucci
"The *sigh* isn't their argument"

At this moement I will refrain from the thing that I hate.

Yes, the sigh is their argument!

I do realize that rhetoric is no longer considered a proper subject of youth, but this takes the cake. Are you truly that unfamiliar with what an argument is? The argument is not just the logical bits, it is also the emotional bits that stir the reader/audience to agree with the writer/speaker.

The sigh is used to express utter devastation at another's incomprehension of basic facts that all are presumed to understand. The purposeful sigh is heinous, whether written or spoken, not only because it nets so many weak-minded people into believing an argument that is not necessarily worthy of such belief, but more importantly because it expresses sheer contempt for the contrary position.

In debate between gentlemen, only fools express contempt for the contrary position. In that they express contempt all the time, liberals are showing themselves to be full of crap. I have been deeply impressed by the high level of logical thought that goes on here at FR. Surely FR is better than the venial tactic of the sigh.

The sigh is commonly used at muddleheaded sites like Slashdot and DU where misspellings, flagrant grammar errors, and dodgy argument are the rule.

Let us not fall into the same hellish pit. Let us not stoop so low as to use the sigh when making arguments.

13 posted on 05/02/2004 10:05:29 PM PDT by rogueleader
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To: rogueleader
Good Grief!..Oh,please!....SIGH...PIFFLE!
20 posted on 05/02/2004 10:15:23 PM PDT by MEG33 (John Kerry's been AWOL for two decades on issues of National Security!)
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To: rogueleader
LOL!!!
31 posted on 05/02/2004 10:27:34 PM PDT by Lancey Howard (Ooops.... You anal about LOL, too?)
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To: rogueleader
Let us not fall into the same hellish pit. Let us not stoop so low as to use the sigh when making arguments.

Another thing to watch out for are pompous, condescending, overbearing, tedious passive-voice arguments beginning with didactic structures like, "Let us not..."

34 posted on 05/02/2004 10:33:09 PM PDT by Don Joe (We've traded the Rule of Law for the Law of Rule.)
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To: rogueleader
Actually, the sigh is not their arguement vis-a-vis the Gorelick memo, which follows, but an expression of their frustration with Bush's New Tone refusal to back up his own people.

A lot of us are sighing.
35 posted on 05/02/2004 10:37:02 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Why the long face, John?)
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To: rogueleader
Let us not fall into the same hellish pit. Let us not stoop so low as to use the sigh when making arguments.

No, the "sigh" is NOT the argument. The "sigh" is the editorial comment on the argument.

In this case it was intended as a well deserved insult to the commission and its associated idiocy.

As in, "Sigh... What a bunch of losers." (I couldn't resist.)

36 posted on 05/02/2004 10:38:00 PM PDT by EternalHope (Boycott everything French forever. Including their vassal nations.)
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To: rogueleader
Aw jeez...
48 posted on 05/02/2004 11:13:31 PM PDT by Piranha
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To: rogueleader
You must remember this
A kiss is just a kiss, a sigh is just a sigh........
51 posted on 05/03/2004 12:18:47 AM PDT by MamaLucci (Libs, want answers on 911? Ask Clinton why he met with Monica more than with his CIA director.)
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To: rogueleader
The sigh is used to express . . . sheer contempt for the contrary position.

In debate between gentlemen, only fools express contempt for the contrary position.

Yes. And although it is a given that a person who would fob off his responsibilities into thin air
  1. Janet Reno "took responsibility" for Waco - no one was fired or resigned, and no one really blamed Ms. Reno for what happened within a month of her taking office
  2. Craig Livingstone "was hired" and "was fired" - but no one was responsible for hiring or firing him
  3. "It depends on the meaning of 'is'"
is no gentleman, that is not entirely true of all who would vote knowingly for such a person. There is a certain detatchment from reality in traditional behavior, and all-too-often voting and political opinions are exactly that rather than expression of rational thought. Although 2/3 of Christian voters voted for Bush, 1/3 of them voted for Gore, and I an friends with such a family. Grandma had a picture of John F. Kennedy over the mantle . . .

Ms. Gorelick's memo explicitly ordered seperation of criminal and intelligence information beyond the level mandated by law - explicitly to avoid a future appearance of impropriety. But now that she herself is the subject of an actual appearance of impropriety, her enthusiam for walking the extra mile has vanished and the familiar pettifoggery of the Clinton Administration is on display.

Actually, the sigh is not their arguement vis-a-vis the Gorelick memo, which follows, but an expression of their frustration with Bush's New Tone refusal to back up his own people.

A lot of us are sighing.

35 posted on 05/03/2004 1:37:02 AM EDT by Jeff Chandler

Exactly.

61 posted on 05/03/2004 6:11:30 AM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (Home(page) is where the (political) heart is.)
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To: rogueleader
What? The sigh was regarding President Bush evidently objecting to the Justice Department posting of various memos exposing Gorelick as a liar. It was not a sigh at the substance of the Gorelick/Commission/Memo details.

They go on to point out her deception. Deception that I and other freepers have already pointed out here on FR, of course, but now explained for a wider audience in the WSJ.

67 posted on 05/03/2004 6:39:48 AM PDT by cyncooper
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To: rogueleader
Pedantic much?
72 posted on 05/03/2004 7:05:55 AM PDT by Sloth (We cannot defeat foreign enemies of the Constitution if we yield to the domestic ones.)
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