A Toomey/Specter Epitaph

self | 05/01/04 | joanie-f

[joanie-f]

FYI ...

[NittanyLion]

Great post. Thanks for all your hard work on Pat Toomey's behalf.

[prisoner6]

Wonderful! Thank you very much! This is a keeper for me! I'm going to print it and give it to someone at work on Monday.

Maybe join us in the PA forum if you haven't already. I'm seriously considering voting for Hoeffel just to get rid of Arlen.

prisoner6

[McGavin999]

Good job joanie. I think if Colorado, Oklahoma and Illinois had not gone up for grabs at the last minute, things would have been different, but those retirements really hurt.

[ex-snook]

Ping back on your super post.

Conservatives don't let friends vote for RINOs for any reason. It only encourages further breeding.

I think Bush's own words are appropriate for Bush/Santorum on supporting conservatism, "you are either with us or against us". Supporting 'the Party' must work both ways.

[Extremely Extreme Extremist]

I'm seriously considering voting for Hoeffel just to get rid of Arlen

I wouldn't go that far, but I secretly hope Specter loses in the general. His last two general election races have been squeakers and there's no guarantees that he'll win in November.

[NMC EXP]

Well said.

I am not sure what you mean by "political fog". It is actaully quite simple. The RNC will back an incumbent big govt, pro abortion socialist so long as he plays the capitol hill political charade well enough to suit them.

Party always trumps principle.

(1) individual liberty is not compromisable

Its all about individual liberty.

Nothing else really matters.

Regards

J.R.

[Prolifeconservative]

Can you or anyone else please tell me why Santorum sold-out to the Pro-life cause? I'm still baffled by it all....

Anyway....What happened in Pennsylvania is a microcosm, people all across the fruited plains have been walking in a fog to allow innocent children butchered by the millions. And if we take a real close look at this fog we will see it's not fog at all, but Evil. May as well call it by it's real name.

[Prolifeconservative]

"I think Bush's own words are appropriate for Bush/Santorum on supporting conservatism, "you are either with us or against us". Supporting 'the Party' must work both ways."

I really really really like the way you think. BRILLIANT POINT!

[FairOpinion]

"1) individual liberty is not compromisable

(2) along with liberty, the sanctity of life is not compromisable

And, in order to protect and ensure the above:

(3) American law and justice cannot be over-ridden by international law or treaties

(4) American sovereignty must be preserved from outside interference of any kind

(5) the expressly limited to a few enumerated powers authority of government must remain in the hands of the people"

==

Good list.

But, as you said, the primary is over.

Now it's time to focus on the November elections and ask yourself, whether a Democrat or Republican Senate fits in with your criteria.

If conservatives stay home "to teach Specter a lesson", we may well have a Democrat Senate with President Kerry.

[joanie-f]

Can you or anyone else please tell me why Santorum sold-out to the Pro-life cause? I'm still baffled by it all....

This is maybe the one aspect of his endorsement of Specter that puzzles me the most as well.

Santorum is probably the most vocal pro-life Senator on the hill. He and his wife chose to complete her pregnancy, although they knew that the child would die within hours of its birth (and he died in Rick's arms, two hours after he entered the world).

His wife, Karen, even wrote a book, 'Letters to Gabriel' composed of letters that she wrote to their terminal son during the nine months that she carried him.

Rick has sponsored and strongly supported the most powerful anti-abortion bills ever written.

So that he could endorse an advocate of abortion-on-demand, and a defender of PBA, involved a serious compromise of strongly-held principles -- brought about, no doubt, by political extortion, and pressure by the President.

It's more than sad for Toomey. It's yet another strike against the innocent unborn.

~ joanie

[ServesURight]

blah blah, blah blah blah, we must hold hands and do what our.Republican.bosses.tell.us.to.do., blah blah, blah.

Were you Charlie Brown's teacher, by any chance?

[joanie-f]

Thanks for the kind comments. Toomey will return. The question is, until he can be returned to national office, how much damage will have taken place in the interim? If he had been given the Republican nomination, and a victory over Hoeffel in November (which I don't believe was out of the question at all), the character of the Senate would have been improved dramatically and immediately (the powerful influence of the man who has been a thorn in the side of conservative Republicans would have been removed, and in his place a man of the integrity of Reagan could have begun to make a difference).

[FairOpinion]

Well, it's all the question whether you want Kerry or Bush as US president, and whether you prefer a Republican or a Democrat Senate.

I personally don't see how anyone could have any claim to being a conservative while preferring Democrats to be elected.

[Extremely Extreme Extremist]

You truly do not get it! This is a battle for the heart and soul of the Republican Party - it is socialists like Specter who hide behind the R tag and thumb their noses at conservatives. It doesn't matter if Specter wins or not the GOP still won't have real control of the Senate thanks to the other RINOs like Snowe, McCain, and Hatch. Specter is going to block most of Bush's agenda and his judicial appointments he will stab Bush in the back he had already said as much just a day after winning the primary.....

Wake up and smell the friggin' coffee lady sheesh! THERE IS NO GOP CONTROL OF THE SENATE AT STAKE HERE - IT IS A SCARE TACTIC FROM THE GOP ESTABLISHMENT AT SUCKERING THE GRASSROOTS TO VOTE FOR THEIR SOCIALIST CANDIDATE!

[joanie-f]

I'm not advocating anyone 'stay home' -- but the questions remain: (1) Is maintaining the senate in Republican hands worth continuing to give in to political extortion by a man who has never been fit to wear that label (even back in the days when he served as D.A. in Philadelphia -- that's a quarter of a century of misrepresentation)? And (2) Even if Specter were to lose, can we hold a Senate majority? and (3) Would Toomey have stood a good chance of winning against Hoeffel in November?

In my opinion, the answers are: no, yes, and yes.

[cynicom]

I plan on leaving it blank. I cannot vote for either of the losers.

[joanie-f]

Its all about individual liberty ... Nothing else really matters.

Agreed. Everything else I listed, and all other 'political' considerations, eventually revert to a reverence for (or desire to rescind) that basic God-given right.

[joanie-f]

I think Bush's own words are appropriate for Bush/Santorum on supporting conservatism, "you are either with us or against us".

You know, a friend of mine said the exact same thing when the President announced his endorsement of Specter. And from then on he kept referring to him as 'the guy who is against us.' You both have a real good point.