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WHY THE PALESTINIANS ARE IN SUCH A STATE -- A Brush With Reality!
http://www.iconoclast.ca/NewPage11.asp ^ | MARK STEYN

Posted on 05/01/2004 1:04:18 PM PDT by BurkesLaw

And that's a guy [Egypt's Hosni Mubarak] American taxpayers give $2 billion a year to. In return for which, they get Mohammed Atta flying through the office window and vile state-funded Egyptian media that license anti-Americanism as a safety valve for disaffection that might otherwise be targeted more locally. Thanks a bunch, Hosni....

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Israel; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: anotherstupideqcerpt; marksteyn; palestinians
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Steyn is correct. The Palestinians have delayed and delayed in their negotiations for a state. So now Israel's Sharon has rightfully defined the parameters of their new Palestinian state for them. Kudos to George W. Bush for ignoring the Arabist U.S. state department and simply recognized reality in the Middle East for a change.
1 posted on 05/01/2004 1:04:19 PM PDT by BurkesLaw
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To: BurkesLaw
Burkes - tried both links and the internal links at the site, they don't really go anywhere. Probably why no posts.
2 posted on 05/01/2004 1:30:19 PM PDT by Let's Roll (Kerry is a self-confessed unindicted war criminal or ... a traitor to his country in a time of war)
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To: BurkesLaw
I can answe that without even reading the article. Its because they're islamderthals.
3 posted on 05/01/2004 1:34:56 PM PDT by cripplecreek (you tell em i'm commin.... and hells commin with me.)
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To: radikalprofit
radikalprofit:I lived in the USA (N.H. and C.T.) for 12 years of my life. I now live in London and study human rights.

So what are your thoughts on suicide bombers ? Is it a human right to kill yourself and others no matter how wrong it is ?
5 posted on 05/01/2004 1:53:13 PM PDT by John Lenin
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To: radikalprofit
You are a fool: they will hate us no matter what.

Welcome to FR.

6 posted on 05/01/2004 1:56:59 PM PDT by Psycho_Bunny
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To: cripplecreek
Homo Islamderthalis, lol!
7 posted on 05/01/2004 1:57:23 PM PDT by Helms
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To: radikalprofit
What "stance" do you propose?
8 posted on 05/01/2004 2:00:02 PM PDT by Bahbah
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To: radikalprofit
Would you apply that logic to the British and Northern Ireland?
9 posted on 05/01/2004 2:12:59 PM PDT by Rollee (Send lawyers, guns and money - the shiite has hit the fan.)
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To: radikalprofit
I have to agree with you. The US supports Israel right or wrong. We could be an effective mediator however our current position fits perfectly for Israel. Get the Arab world to hate us as much as they hate Israel, not to mention 3/4 of the rest of the world. I would not be surprised to see suicide bombers in this country before this election.
13 posted on 05/01/2004 2:22:51 PM PDT by doc
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To: radikalprofit
I think the Arabs say they want peace to people like you and the the rest of the world but their actions are completely the opposite. They lose the moral highground with the suicide bombings, had they stopped the violence a long time agao Israel would be shamed into a peace deal with them.
15 posted on 05/01/2004 2:32:10 PM PDT by John Lenin
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The Palestinians have a land. It is called Trans-Jordan.

I know "minor" little details like that usually don't matter to touchy,feely, but "historical fact challenged" individuals.
16 posted on 05/01/2004 2:33:29 PM PDT by AmericaUnited (It's time someone says the emperor has no clothes.)
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I think the Arabs say they want peace to people like you

Yes, some of the most pathological lying people on the planet. What's most annoying are the dumb dupes who don't understand this, listen and take what they say at face value, and get suckered into pleading their cause.

17 posted on 05/01/2004 2:36:10 PM PDT by AmericaUnited (It's time someone says the emperor has no clothes.)
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To: radikalprofit
'they' 'us'? come on, surely we can step beyond such simplifications. 

In general, things really are fairly simple.  Over complications of basic moral thought is for relativists and trolls...not for people who desire to accomplish deeds.

although i would guess that from that comment you may feel that the reverse is also true?

No, the reverse is not true.  Although, I'm sure you're convinced it is.

 maybe a few will. the people trying to live day to day and practise thier faith are not too different from you and i.

Physically: no.  Mentally: couldn't be more different.

I do not predicate my moral system via a God who creates a heaven which includes female sex toys.

I'm capable of dividing good from evil without without making inquiries of my penis.

19 posted on 05/01/2004 2:43:44 PM PDT by Psycho_Bunny
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You may recall when Iareal was first founded, there was a war, and Israel won. Later there was another war, and Israel won again. Name a country whose borders are not defined by the results of war.
20 posted on 05/01/2004 2:44:41 PM PDT by js1138 (In a minute there is time, for decisions and revisions which a minute will reverse. J Forbes Kerry)
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