Cow cut, drained in Arborg: Mutilation mystifies

The Winnipeg Sun ^ | Thursday, April 29, 2004 | NATALIE PONA

[Momaw Nadon]

An Arborg cattle farmer made a horrific discovery Monday when he found the partially skinned carcass of one of his animals that was missing its tongue and apparently drained of its blood. "The whole thing has turned out to be more sinister than I thought," said Yvonne, a neighbour, who examined the mutilated animal. She asked not to have her last name used to protect her family.

"What sort of weirdos have we got travelling in our neighbourhood?"

Gordon, who would only allow The Sun to print his first name, said he discovered the carcass on his farm Monday afternoon.

"I don't really want to speculate on what happened. I know what I saw," he said, adding he is still shaken up by the find.

Arborg is 100 kilometres north of Winnipeg.

COW MUTILATIONS

The mutilation happened Saturday or Sunday night, Gordon said. No one heard anything.

He's heard of several cow mutilations in the area over the past few years, Gordon said.

He called the RCMP, reporting that the animal had been attacked by a predator. He has since changed his mind about the cause.

"It was definitely a sharp object used," he said.

Arborg RCMP Cpl. Glenn Syme said he has never investigated an instance of cattle mutilation. The RCMP did take a call this week about a cow being attacked by a predator, likely from Gordon.

SKIN PULLED FROM FACE

The animal was found with an incision under its chin. The skin had been pulled from the face, exposing the teeth.

"It's not the gore, we've seen that before, it's the evil behind it," Yvonne said.

The tip of the animal's tongue, cut from its root, was placed in the mouth, she said.

"There's not a drop of blood in that animal. The only way you can drain an animal of blood is (to cut into it) with the heart still pumping," Yvonne said.

The cuts were very precise, as if made by a surgeon, she said.

"You don't know who you're dealing with ... the average wild and woolly neighbourhood brat wouldn't be capable of doing it," she said.

Gordon and Yvonne called Fern Belzil, an Alberta-based investigator of unexplained deaths who has been studying cow mutilations for eight years, for help.

Belzil has studied 100 cases, two-thirds of which remain unexplained.

"I'm not saying it's aliens ... a lot points towards aliens but there is no proof," he said.

Belzil said he has never encountered any evidence pointing to who or what is killing cows.

"It's a real mystery," he said.

[Sam Cree]

Take up painting, I guess.
Maybe wildlife painting ;-)

[ColoradoSlim]

Ok it makes sense, no evil government scientists, but you kinda take all the fun out of it for me friend. Who do you thinks doing it?

[MHGinTN]

"I'm not saying it's aliens ..." Better just hope these freaks don't switch from cows to people ... they are very sick individuals (and it would take more than one to commit this act as described ... truck or tractor tracks should be discernable).

[ItisaReligionofPeace]

I don't know who or what is doing it, but I can't believe that the government is doing it. I'd have to see pictures of it. I'd actually have to see the cows up close. I doubt it is people who are doing it.

[Free Trapper]

Wildlife painting,now there's a thought.

My County will be the first in the Nation with pinstriped bobcats and checkered coyotes.

Need to stockup on bandaids first,though. ;O)

[DestroytheDemocrats]

" I always kinda liked the theory that it's evil government scientists testing for nuclear fallout from the 40's. 50's, 60's or testing their new medical technology.

Sorta crazy, they could just buy the cow from the rancher. Why would such testing need to be secret? Most would welcome it.

[DestroytheDemocrats]

"What do you think an eagle does to a cow? It removes strips of flesh for several days. Maybe you misunderstand me. It does this while the cow or sheep is alive and walking around until it bleeds to death, going into shock, or dies from infecti"

It would seem to me that experienced ranchers and thier veteranerians and other locals who own livestock or who work around them and live in ranching areas know about this. Common sense says that they know the difference between death from predation as you describe it and "cattle mutilation" as we have come to hear about. It seems that death from predation has already been ruled out and that's the mystery of it.

[DestroytheDemocrats]

"Why would the military, or government risk so much, when it would be far easier and cheaper to buy some grateful rancher's cattle and take them back to a lab for a PROPER investigation."

Right. I think the military has better things to do that run around at night killing the livestock of hard working tax payers. Still the mutilations are a mystery and I don't think it is predation.

[ColoradoSlim]

I know it does sounds crazy. I just saw it on the TV and it sounded pretty good. You hear some wild things on the TV. You know a short time ago I saw the President saying something to the effect that Islam is a religion of peace. Talk about your science fiction, I've been to a world fair a picnic and a rodeo and that's got to be the craziest dang thing I ever heard.

[blackdog]

Until I'm bovine, ovine, or equine, I'll worry about other things than alien obsession with the lesser creatures.

I do appreciate everyones devotion to analysis on the topic though.

[Free Trapper]

In the early 70s I caught bad people for a living and because of my work,I had dealings with some Satanists.

An Agent that was investigating cattle mutilations got ahold of me for any thoughts I might have because there was talk of Satanic involvement,as one theory,in the mutilations.

I ended up going with the other Agent to see two cows in W.Kansas and one in E.Colorado that were mutilated.

The cattle all seemed to have had their lips and private parts cut away,along with other things,so cleanly that I didn't think I could have done it with any blade and I was used to using a knife while skinning and butchering wild critters and cattle.

Nothing I saw gave me any idea that Satanists were involved from what I knew of them.I'm also sure that no Satanist that I ever met could have done such a clean job.

The other Agent and I came up with nothing,actually.

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I've been around cattle all my life and know what critters do to a carcass.

More than a few times,I've used freshly dead cattle as bait and have never seen animals cause anything like the damage that was done to those three carcasses.

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It really was strange.

I do remember that there had been UFOs reported in at least one area where a cow was found and there was talk of helicopter involvement,also.

Q,from your posts,I get the idea that the weird theories we had to go on back then have expanded with time.Please give me a ping if you can to anything interesting that you come upon.This thread has brought back many good,and a few bad,memories. :)

[Quix]

The whole UFO thing, for me, started out as an adjunct to my interest in Sci Fi when I was in Jr High.

Then, several years later, a close relative ended up working around them more or less daily in Nevada. I learned about that in 1970 on my way to Taiwan the first time.

Over the years, I saw a number of ways they could end up fitting into end time Biblical prophecies. I've become even MORE convinced of that. For at least 25 years, the study has been serious because of that link.

Nevertheless, a Believer is not to worry about anything . . . though to have great concern about any failure to put and keep God in first place in one's life and heart.

[Quix]

Sorry for the less than wonderful memories.

If you care to share any of the + or - memories publically or via FREEPMAIL, PLEASE DO.

Yes, I'd say we've had to expand a lot of our understandings about a lot of the UFO/cosmology/government involvement aspects of the whole thing. As I've expected, it appears firm now, that there is at least a race or 3 or 9 that will try to 'disprove' the Biblical cosmology. They won't succeed for me.

But I suspect many folks who are not grounded well in The Word and who have not learned to walk hand in hand with Jesus AND HEAR HIS VOICE ACCURATELY, followed by obedience . . . such folk may well be deluded and lose out on Eternal Life.

I believe the whole ET thing has been set up such that whether ET's are cast as benign or benevolent or evil and destructive, the puppet master global government tyranny folks will gain currency toward establishing their tyranny. I think it's somewhat like their skill to establish stoolies in both political parties--though clearly the DIMRATS are rife with them and exceedingly complicit with them in a head-strong aggressive way.

Some races of ET's may turn out to be more or less complicit as well. But I think most of the well known ones are at least in cahoots with satan if not demons in bioengineered bodies. I do NOT believe all ET's are demons. I certainly don't believe that all craft are demons though some may be able to materialize as such.

So, are you asking to be on my UFO PING list?

Much appreciated your kind response. We actually have a significant number of FREEPERS who have or still work in or close to this topic. I've been amazed at their courage, even privately. Years ago, one just got ran out of town on a rail with tar and feathers for even bringing the topic up. And, I still prefer to respond on threads vs originate threads. But at least now, there's a healthy amount of knowledge and understanding and at least SOME folks with courage enough to stand up and be counted about the topic.

THANKS MUCH.

Satanists might use anything for any evil they could. But I think a fair number would be freaked by a lot of the ET UFO stuff. They certainly are not responsible for it, though satan himself seems fairly wrapped up in a lot of it in the way he's wrapped up with a lot of modern life. He's still bent on stealing, killing and destroying. He's greatly into deception. A lot of ET stuff seems in such directions though not overtly except maybe in the mutilation and some of the abduction areas.

[Free Trapper]

My memories are mostly of the fine people I worked with back then,the good things we did and fun times we had. :)

The bad memories are only from the twisted people I had to be around and the sick things they did that I worked to stop.

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Please do put me on your UFO ping list,perhaps I'll learn something.

If you caught my post #80,you'll see that some folks have given me cause to more seriously consider bigfoot being a real critter.It's really hard not to believe when talking to some of these people face to face.

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I've seen and caught some types of animals in places that the "experts" swore they couldn't be.

I've also had a couple of the "experts" come to me at a later date and say,"hey,you were right". :)

There are many,many things we know way too little about.

[B4Ranch]

"Certainly it's NOT predators. Actually, predators USUALLY GIVE THE CARCASSES A VERY WIDE BERTH and they take much longer than usual to decay."

This has been the experience of the ranchers I know. Their dogs would not approach the dead cow, unusual and noticeable because that was something the dogs would normally do.

[Sam Cree]

"My County will be the first in the Nation with pinstriped bobcats and checkered coyotes."

Although it takes a little practice to pull an even pinstripe, even on a car ;-)

[Momaw Nadon]

there is at least a race or 3 or 9 that will try to 'disprove' the Biblical cosmology

What do you mean when you say "Biblical cosmology"?

How would you define the term?

[Calamari]

too far north.

[ColoradoSlim]

"There are many,many things we know way too little about"

They find new species in the ocean almost every day. I read somewhere that oceans cover about 3/4 the of the world and that we know less about the bottom of the ocean than the surface of the moon.

I guess there could be just about anything floating around in those big old oceans.

[Quix]

BIBLICAL COSMOLOGY according to Qx:

[ONE] IN THE BEGINNING WAS THE WORD . . . I JOHN 1:1

KJV:
John 1
1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
2 The same was in the beginning with God.
3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men.
5 And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.

MSG:

John 1


The Life-Light
1The Word was first,
the Word present to God,
God present to the Word.
The Word was God,
2in readiness for God from day one.

3Everything was created through him;
nothing--not one thing!-
came into being without him.
4What came into existence was Life,
and the Life was Light to live by.
5The Life-Light blazed out of the darkness;
the darkness couldn't put it out.

AMPLIFIED:
John 1
1IN THE beginning [before all time] was the Word ([1] Christ), and the Word was with God, and the Word was God [2] Himself.(1)
2He was present originally with God.
3All things were made and came into existence through Him; and without Him was not even one thing made that has come into being.
4In Him was Life, and the Life was the Light of men.
5And the Light shines on in the darkness, for the darkness has never overpowered it [put it out or absorbed it or appropriated it, and is unreceptive to it].

NIV:
John 1


The Word Became Flesh

1In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2He was with God in the beginning.
3Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made. 4In him was life, and that life was the light of men. 5The light shines in the darkness, but the darkness has not understood[1] it.
6There came a man who was sent from God; his name was John. 7He came as a witness to testify concerning that light, so that through him all men might believe. 8He himself was not the light; he came only as a witness to the light. 9The true light that gives light to every man was coming into the world.[2]
10He was in the world, and though the world was made through him, the world did not recognize him. 11He came to that which was his own, but his own did not receive him. 12Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God-- 13children born not of natural descent,[3] nor of human decision or a husband's will, but born of God.
14The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the One and Only,[4] who came from the Father, full of grace and truth.

[I like the KJV here as well as the Amplified. The MSG adds some flavor that can be enhancing, I think.

[TWO]
John 14:6
Jesus said unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man comes unto the Father, but by me.
(Whole Chapter: John 14 In context: John 14:5-7)

[AM IN A RUSH to get off to church. I'd probably add a few basic doctrine things and especially]:

[THREE]
PROPHECIES PREDICTING AND THE FACTS OF HIS LIFE, CRUCIFIXION; DEATH, RESURRECTION.

ET's will likely put forth a more or less NEW AGE cosmology as well as declare that they created Jesus, Buddha etc for social engineering purposes. They may even purport to show a 'historical' holographic video 'proving' the miracles of the NT false.

FOLKS WILL NEED TO KNOW BECAUSE THEY KNOW BECAUSE THEY KNOW THAT JESUS IS REAL INSIDE THEM, WALKING WITH THEM; THAT HE WILL NEVER FORSAKE THEM.

Because the 'reality' around them in this time space dimension is set to get twisted every which way as evil tries in a dying gasp to throw the last bits of sand it can into God's face and HIS prize creation.