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Pat Toomey’s Future An interview.
National Review ^ | 4/30/04 | Ramesh Ponnuru

Posted on 05/01/2004 5:03:08 AM PDT by Elkiejg

NRO: Is this your first interview since the election?

Rep. Pat Toomey: Yes it is.

NRO: Given that you lost, what do you think your campaign accomplished?

Toomey: Well I'm still sorting that out, Ramesh, and trying to figure out what if anything it accomplished. When you consider the obstacles we faced and how close we got, it makes it clear that there is a real interest in seeing the Republican party govern as a conservative party, certainly in Pennsylvania.

NRO: What does the campaign say about the strength of the conservative movement, most of its institutions having backed you?

Toomey: The vast majority of them were on my side but very much to varying degrees of involvement. The Club for Growth was terrific, very strong and very involved. Much of the conservative print media, led by National Review of course, was on my side. There were others: the Wall Street Journal, The Weekly Standard, Human Events.

NRO: Rush Limbaugh?

Toomey: I think to a large degree Rush sat out the race.

NRO: Looking back at the race, were there any mistakes you would avoid if you did it again?

Toomey: I really don't think we made any blunders, I don't think we made any significant mistakes in terms of allocating resources. Looking back, there might have been ways to more effectively exploit the Internet. But would it have made the difference in the race? It's hard to say. I have to tell you, I feel pretty good about how we ran the race. We had a lot of discipline in terms of our message. We had limited resources and we developed a strategy based on our resrouces and it came very close to working for us.

NRO: Why should your supporters vote for Specter?

Toomey: Well, the alternative is worse. Joe Hoeffel will never be with Republicans or conservatives on anything. That's number one, and number two: I think we're going to hold on to the Senate and probably grow our majority. Increasing the Republican majority is a good thing. Every Republican makes it harder for the Democrats to filibuster.

NRO: But given that so many conservatives wanted Specter out on Tuesday, and that he has been moving left since then, do you think Specter will be able to win the votes of your supporters?

Toomey: I don't know.

NRO: Do you have any hard feelings toward Santorum?

Toomey: (Pause.) No, not really. I haven't spoken with him in a while.

NRO: You didn't get a call from him after the primary?

Toomey: That's correct.

NRO: What does the future hold for Pat Toomey?

Toomey: I don't know. I really don't know. My wife and I are out on Block Island decompressing. I'm hoping to read a novel. In the next few weeks we'll start thinking about what to do next.

NRO: Any interest in running for governor in 2006?

Toomey: I haven't really given it any thought. Several people have started talking about it, but I just don't have any idea.


TOPICS: Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: rameshponnuru; toomey
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To: Formoore04
Lincoln won 39% and 55%

Embarrassingly ridiculous example. The Republican Party was certainly not in third party status during those elections, and it arguably never was.

TR was also a former President of the United States, so that isn't exactly a great example either.

121 posted on 05/01/2004 9:19:24 AM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: ClintonBeGone
"It was not another candidate on the ballot taking votes in the general election."

So you're moving the goal posts. You were caught in a lie, but rather than admit it, you change your story.

You need to stop wasting Mr. Robinson's bandwidth with your drivel.
122 posted on 05/01/2004 9:21:11 AM PDT by Formoore04
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To: Formoore04
And that's just Presidental elections, the numbers are generally higher the more local you get.

Sure.

123 posted on 05/01/2004 9:21:32 AM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: Republican Wildcat
"Embarrassingly ridiculous example. The Republican Party was certainly not in third party status during those elections, and it arguably never was."

Yes it was. Did you ever hear of a little thing called the Whig Party?

"TR was also a former President of the United States, so that isn't exactly a great example either."

Was he not a 3rd party candidate? You can't move the goal posts because you don't like the answer.
124 posted on 05/01/2004 9:22:33 AM PDT by Formoore04
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To: ClintonBeGone
"I think you have enough trouble of your own without butting into another member's discussion with me that he wasn't a party to in the first place."

This is a public board, not email. Get a grip.
125 posted on 05/01/2004 9:23:47 AM PDT by Formoore04
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To: snopercod
You just can't trust a man who sells out a good man like Toomey in favor of slime like Specter.

Oh yeah, the Internationalist John F'in Kerry will make a much better President for our country than that nasty Statist, George W. Bush. /sarcasm

126 posted on 05/01/2004 9:23:50 AM PDT by SuziQ
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To: Formoore04
But it does show their lack of respect for this nation at its culture.

I'm not aware that choosing a name that appeals to you -- an aggressive, anonymous internet troll -- is a mandatory marker of "respect for this nation."

So what should Pat Toomey rename himself? (Note my attempt to keep Formoore04's attempted threadjacking from completely losing relevance to the thread subject). "Phil Thompson?" How about, say, David Horowitz? That "David" is a Jewish giveaway... how bout "Dan." Dang, that's one of them thar He-brew names too... let's give up on Horowitz, he's obviously not American by Formoore04's incredibly deep and reasoned standard. What about Don Rumsfeld? Is a German name like that "Anglo" enough for you? What about Gen. Abizaid? Cripes, he has an enemy name... he must be way less American than a great patriotic crank like Formoore04.

I'll tell you, I'm really glad to know that the guardians of racial, ethnic, and most importantly, nomenclatural purity are on watch. This nation won't ever have its place in the sun until it's down to everyone having the same six names like in some counties in Appalachia today.

d.o.l.

Criminal Number 18F (and his other brother Darryl)

127 posted on 05/01/2004 9:25:04 AM PDT by Criminal Number 18F (Ethnic name cleansing. There are people who believe that, here!)
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To: SuziQ
"Oh yeah, the Internationalist John F'in Kerry will make a much better President for our country than that nasty Statist, George W. Bush. /sarcasm"

Is that all you have? "Vote for Bush because he isn't as terrible as Kerry!"

That's a winning slogan!
128 posted on 05/01/2004 9:25:53 AM PDT by Formoore04
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To: Formoore04; Luis Gonzalez
And Luis is not an American name. It's spelled Louis. Assimilate, or go back to your "homeland", Luis.

You need to learn more about your fellow Freepers, NEWBIE, before you start insulting them!

129 posted on 05/01/2004 9:27:57 AM PDT by SuziQ
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To: Criminal Number 18F
It's telling that you have to resort to strawmen, lies, and demonization.

You know, if I had to do those things to justify my position, I would seriously reconsider my position.

But I guess taking a page out of the DNC playbook is all fine and dandy to you.

But you're right, anyone who disagrees with you is a racist, sexist, homophobe, right-wing extremist wacko. Can't wait till you get your own show on Air America.

Grow up.
130 posted on 05/01/2004 9:29:27 AM PDT by Formoore04
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To: SuziQ
"You need to learn more about your fellow Freepers, NEWBIE, before you start insulting them!"

I haven't insulted anybody.
131 posted on 05/01/2004 9:30:15 AM PDT by Formoore04
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To: Formoore04
I think my statement still stands. If you can't keep up, move on.
132 posted on 05/01/2004 9:30:29 AM PDT by ClintonBeGone (John Kerry is the Democrat's Bob Dole)
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To: Formoore04
I haven't insulted anybody.

Yes, it's our fault. We just don't understand your system of gaining affection.

133 posted on 05/01/2004 9:31:33 AM PDT by ClintonBeGone (John Kerry is the Democrat's Bob Dole)
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To: cynicom
I remember Bush the elder in a speech saying "there is a NEW WORLD ORDER out there". That got my attention.

I guess I never attached any conspiratorial to that statement like others did. I believe #41 was talking about the shift in the political, economic and military power that had occurred as a result of the fall of Communism. There WAS a new order to things in the world, and America had come out on top.

135 posted on 05/01/2004 9:32:30 AM PDT by SuziQ
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To: ClintonBeGone
"I think my statement still stands."

You don't think, that's why you're in this mess to begin with. You lied, were caught in the lie, and now like John Kerry you're backpeddling.
136 posted on 05/01/2004 9:32:41 AM PDT by Formoore04
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To: Formoore04
Yes it was.

No, it wasn't.

Did you ever hear of a little thing called the Whig Party?

Why, yes...did you know that party had completely collapsed? The Whigs last nominated a candidate in 1856, and even that was them endorsing a nominee of another party. Nice try, but you lose.

Was he not a 3rd party candidate? You can't move the goal posts because you don't like the answer.

I'm moving the goal post? LOL. You cited this as a general example of third parties doing well. Nonsense, as you know. You lose again.

137 posted on 05/01/2004 9:33:56 AM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: Formoore04
So why isn't ClintonBeGone banned?

*sigh*

The reason "personal attacks" are not allowed is because they lead to personal "flame wars", which detract from the reasoned conversation and degenerates the thread into ugly tit-for-tats which drives other people off the thread and destroys civil conversation.

You started it by your nasty attack on Luis, and bear responsibility for it in this case. You might start amends by not trying to shift responsibility to somebody who reacted to your intemperance.

138 posted on 05/01/2004 9:34:03 AM PDT by Gritty ("ACLU: the true meaning of 9/11 is, we need to be more tolerant toward ethnic minorities-Ann Coulter)
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To: Nathaniel Fischer
"When we write English, we use semicolons where you used commas. Did I mention your atrocious word use?"

I believe my grammar has been spot on, and aside from a couple of typos, my spelling has been spot on too.

So tell me, what about my atrocious word use?
139 posted on 05/01/2004 9:34:19 AM PDT by Formoore04
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To: Formoore04
And Luis is not an American name. It's spelled Louis. Assimilate, or go back to your "homeland", Luis.

You are a messed up screwball and a racist. I'm reporting you to the moderator.

140 posted on 05/01/2004 9:36:14 AM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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