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'Chill Bill' Passes Canadian House, Makes Free Speech Against Gays a Crime
Talon News ^ | Jimmy Moore | April 30, 2004

Posted on 04/30/2004 10:37:03 AM PDT by presidio9

A bill introduced by Canadian parliament member Svend Robinson that would make free speech against homosexuals a crime passed in the House of Commons.

The "Chill Bill," or C-250, passed by a vote of 140-110 on Wednesday despite objections from the religious community that religious speech would be limited by the law if they speak out against homosexuality.

If it becomes law, then the "Chill Bill," which is also known as the "Bible As Hate Literature" bill, would ban speech that would be used in condemnation of homosexuality or homosexual acts.

This is similar to the anti-hate speech law in Sweden where a Pentecostal minister is now facing charges for using the Bible to point out that homosexuality is a sin.

Robinson, who belongs to the socialist New Democratic Party in the Canadian parliament, has championed civil liberties issues in the past and is openly gay.

The "Chill Bill" would specifically amend Section 318 of the hate crime law by adding the phrase "sexual orientation" as the fifth protected class of people, adding to color, race, religion, and ethnic origin.

"It's a bill that recognizes that when hate crimes are perpetrated [in Canada] against those who are of a minority religion or race or ethnic origin or color, that Canada says this is wrong," Robinson said in defense of his bill.

Robinson asserts that homosexuals should also be included as part of the language of the hate crimes law.

"But there's one group in the country and that is gays and lesbians -- the group that has more hate crimes, more violence perpetrated against it -- that isn't included in the hate propaganda laws," Robinson notes.

However, Evangelical Fellowship of Canada President Bruce Clemenger believes this bill would have a decidedly "chilling effect" on people of faith who believe homosexuality is wrong.

"Whether this law leads to the prosecution of religious groups or not, it's almost certain to have a chilling effect," he told the Calgary Herald. "Will the Gideons still be allowed to place Bibles in motel rooms?"

Clemenger is concerned that the terms "hate" and "sexual orientation" are not defined in the legislation. The maximum penalty for these hate crime convictions is five years in prison.

Robinson responds to this by saying his bill was drafted to prevent "gay bashing" and contends that the notion that religious speech would be silenced by the bill is "utterly without foundation."

Even still, John McKay, a member of the Canadian parliament who voted against C-250, said those who oppose homosexuality will be forced to suffer the consequences of speaking out against them in the future if this bill becomes law.

"Anybody who has views on homosexuality that differ from Svend Robinson's will be exposed rather dramatically to the joys of the Criminal Code," McKay told the Canadian Press.

Canadian legislative observer Vic Toews said Robinson is simply advocating "fascism" to promote his radical agenda.

Derek Rogusky, the vice president of family policy for Focus on the Family Canada, said any legislation that limits the rights of people of faith while giving more rights to gays generally favors homosexuals when challenged in court.

"We've seen through the courts that when religious freedom comes up against gay rights, that in fact religious freedom tends to be more often than not the loser in those particular cases," Rogusky told CBC Newsworld.

But religious objections to homosexuality are already being condemned in Canada.

The Saskatchewan Human Rights Commission recently ruled that a newspaper ad that listed Biblical references in it opposing homosexuality amounted to a human rights offense. The newspaper and the man who took out the ad were forced to pay $1,500 each to three gay men who complained about it.

And in British Columbia, the supreme court said a high school teacher's one-month suspension without pay should remain because he wrote letters to the editor in his local newspaper contending that nobody is born with homosexuality.

Bill C-250 is now headed to the 105-member Canadian Senate for consideration.


TOPICS: Announcements; Canada; Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: canada; canaduh; canuckistan; chillbill; homosexualagenda; orwellian; prisoners
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To: Rocketman
Liberals and socialists are a religious movement. They worship the man, they worship the earth, They worship (celebrate) homosexuality, They worship (celebrate) all that is opposed to God This is not some secret society conspiracy. They are being empowered to make war on Christians and the Church by the rulers of darkness, the powers and principalities of this world and the God of this world. -- exactly as the Bible says it would happen. If we do not rise up against this, and raise a standard for the Lord, you shall live to see the day that this country shall be completely overthrown and all Christians here shall be persecuted for the crime of faith.

Amen to that, brother/sister!! The Word is the Word for now and ever, simple.

41 posted on 04/30/2004 1:09:34 PM PDT by RSmithOpt (Liberalism: Highway to Hell)
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To: Colofornian
"Hey, about us FREEPERS start a bank fund to pay for Ryan's summer vacation to Canada?"

I said I would do it if I were Canadian or this happened in the USA. I am not Canadian, so its not my business to protest Canadian governmental decisions, nor would I want to be arrested in a foreign country.
42 posted on 04/30/2004 1:20:13 PM PDT by ryanjb2
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To: *Homosexual Agenda; EdReform; scripter; GrandMoM; backhoe; Yehuda; Clint N. Suhks; saradippity; ...
Homosexual Agenda Ping - OK, Canada's done. Overdone. Burned to a crisp.

Where's the chorus of "It Can't Happen Here"?

Homosexual radicals (and what percentage of them are either radicals or support the radicals?) envision the same totalitarianism here.

Where are the libertarians outraged about infringement on freedom of speech? Are libertarians really for "freedom" or are they for license?

Let me know if anyone wants on/off this pinglist.
43 posted on 04/30/2004 2:10:43 PM PDT by little jeremiah (...men of intemperate minds can not be free. Their passions forge their fetters.)
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To: OXENinFLA
And Gordon Smith is supposedly a Republican - a RINO if there ever was one. (The last election I threw my vote to Lon Mabon, just so I didn't have to vote for Smith.)
44 posted on 04/30/2004 2:30:15 PM PDT by little jeremiah (...men of intemperate minds can not be free. Their passions forge their fetters.)
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To: presidio9
Will they also prosecute heterosexual-phobic homosexuals? "Breeder" is a hate term.
45 posted on 04/30/2004 3:31:34 PM PDT by weegee (JFinKerry used the words Medals and Ribbons interchangeably before he didn't.)
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To: Semper Paratus
And liberals are getting their panties bunched here over the Patriot Act.

Precisely. I really had no appreciation for America's freedom of speech until I learned that Canadian authorities jammed Northern U.S. border TV newscasts when they would cover Canada's infamous "Barbie and Ken" murder trial, ostensibly to prevent a possible mistrial.

46 posted on 04/30/2004 3:48:41 PM PDT by L.N. Smithee (Just because I don't think like you doesn't mean I don't think for myself)
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To: 2banana
You're right,bible burning will be next.
47 posted on 04/30/2004 3:50:33 PM PDT by Mears
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To: mcg1969
No thanks on your trade offer. We have enough of the former and not enough of the latter.
48 posted on 04/30/2004 3:52:00 PM PDT by Former Proud Canadian
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To: Former Proud Canadian
You can have the left coast.
We get the Western Provinces.
49 posted on 04/30/2004 6:24:15 PM PDT by John Will
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To: presidio9
I think we should invade the commies to the north.
50 posted on 04/30/2004 6:25:16 PM PDT by BSunday (I'm not the bad guy, kid)
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To: WhiteGuy
Canada, unlike the USA, does not have a constitution that protects freedom of speech. This is one reason they envy us so much. They can pass any stupid laws they want criminalizing any kind of speech.
51 posted on 04/30/2004 6:51:49 PM PDT by Kenny500c
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To: presidio9
bttt
52 posted on 04/30/2004 7:03:19 PM PDT by satchmodog9 (it's coming and if you don't get off the tracks it will run you down)
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To: John Will
We're not all lefties here on the east coast ... the TRUE east.
53 posted on 04/30/2004 7:53:47 PM PDT by NorthOf45
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To: presidio9
"It's a bill that recognizes that when hate crimes are perpetrated [in Canada] against those who are of a minority religion or race or ethnic origin or color, that Canada says this is wrong."

His bill is a crock of crap as Christians are on the receiving end of much of the hate.

54 posted on 04/30/2004 8:08:19 PM PDT by azhenfud ("He who is always looking up seldom finds others' lost change...")
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To: presidio9
Once again, Svend "The Burnaby Barebacker" Robinson has his radical agenda pushed through. He swindles the people of Canada as easily as he swindles jewelry.
55 posted on 05/01/2004 8:17:59 AM PDT by RightWingAtheist
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To: Rocketman
Your post is profound, and should be read by every American who is (or should be) worried for our future.

Where did this all begin? People of FR Judge these words for yourself, You have seen the rot and decay that these Liberals have spread since the 1970's in our own generation they have turned this country upside down they have taken over Ecumenical Churches with Liberation-Theology. Around the same time they took over the Democratic Party, and they also took over the US Educational System, and more recently they hijacked the US Judicial System.

America has been polarized by these groups who (I'll say it) feel no love for the America of our heritage, and no respect for the idea that we have been blessed in a very special way; that our "Framers" were enlightened men; and that because of the success of the system they started, we are in a position to help people of other countries to learn how to live in democracy.

Liberals and socialists are a religious movement.

We must recognize this - and act on the provision in our Constitution against any State Established religion. They are ideologically devoted to Government as their Supreme Being. This is tyranny, and we are in a cold Civil War right now to reject this tyranny.

Canadians have been dulled by the years of socialism, and the control of the Provinces by the MPs of Ontario and Quebec, to the point of numbness. I lived there for 20 years, and the conservative movement has no power at all.

***

You mentioned the take-over of the schools and universities, churches, and judicial system. I foresee horrible things happening after our November elections. The 6 week travesty about Florida's Electoral votes, will be magnified gravely in many states this time. We now know that Dems will OPENLY contravene laws in their desperation. One was to stop this will be to get a supermajority for President Bush. We must make our conservative acquaintances realize how important is their vote, even if he is not "conservative enough" for them.

56 posted on 05/01/2004 8:20:55 AM PDT by maica (Member of Republican Attack Machine, RAM, previously known as the VRWC)
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To: maica
One was = One way
57 posted on 05/01/2004 8:22:30 AM PDT by maica (Member of Republican Attack Machine, RAM, previously known as the VRWC)
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To: All
The laws of nature are the laws of God whose authority can be superceded by no power on earth. A legislature must not obstruct our obedience to Him from whose punishment they cannot protect us. All human laws which contradict His laws we are in conscience bound to disobey

— George Mason

58 posted on 05/03/2004 7:51:59 AM PDT by johnmorris886 (It is ordained in the eternal constitution of things that men of intemperate minds cannot he free.)
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To: johnmorris886
bump
59 posted on 05/16/2004 11:23:16 PM PDT by Fraulein
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