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The Torricelli Option: Will Dems dump Kerry? Hugh Hewitt believes candidate could face coup
WorldNetDaily.com ^ | Wednesday, April 28, 2004 | Hugh Hewitt

Posted on 04/28/2004 12:06:48 AM PDT by JohnHuang2

The Torricelli Option: Will Dems dump Kerry?


Posted: April 28, 2004
1:00 a.m. Eastern

© 2004 WorldNetDaily.com

There is palpable fear among Democrats as they contemplate their presumptive nominee, John Kerry, the candidate who couldn't keep his lies straight.

Kerry followed a week made disastrous by his military records fiasco with a Monday morning performance with Charlie Gibson of ABC's Good Morning America that will live in TV history alongside the 1980 Roger Mudd-Teddy Kennedy exchange through which it dawned on America that a senator in search of a verb wasn't really equipped to be a president.

Gibson's refusal to be deflected by Kerry's rambling incoherence led to a post-interview denunciation of ABC by Kerry. "They are doing the work of the Republican National Committee," Kerry muttered. Yeah, that's the ticket. Jennings et al., are working for the GOP which is working for Fox News' Roger Ailes who is, of course, working for Halliburton. Hillary's vast, right-wing conspiracy just got vaster. Like the Borg, the VRWC has absorbed Disney-owned ABC. Who knew?

There are powers in the Democratic Party, and they cannot be pleased. Tom Daschle, for one, has got to be thinking through the impact of a presidential contest that is over once the polls close at 6 in the East. That sort of wave in 1980 took out George McGovern and a lot of famous liberals just like Daschle.

Streisand's got to be worried as well. She knows what happens when the movie tanks in the first 10 minutes. People return her phone calls, even though she doesn't make any sense at all. Rob Reiner knows a thing or two about stiffs as well. Remember 1994's "North"? Neither does anyone else. Reiner knows that hopes and dreams do not a success make.

And the Clintons-in-Exile, they must hear the music. Forget their ethics and policies, they have a well-deserved reputation for perfect pitch when it comes to politics. Imagine Bill and Hill watching Kerry strangle himself. How they must laugh ... then cry. Hillary gets the nod in 2008, but what will be left after the wipeout?

Another movie analogy: Jim Carrey in the bathroom scene from "Liar, Liar" when he tries to injure himself. That's John Kerry over the past six weeks, throwing himself against walls in front of the national TV audience with the effect of inflicting maximum damage on himself.

It has worked.

Too well, I am afraid. Dems know he's a loser. But can anything be done?

Who knows? Don't bother looking up the rules governing nominations. There were rules in Florida, and the Florida Supreme Court tore those up when Gore needed help. There were rules in New Jersey, but when Torricelli flamed, the New Jersey Supreme Court tossed those aside. There were rules in California, and three judges ordered a halt to the recall that only went forward because the luck of an en banc draw brought sanity to the review panel.

No, the rules won't stop Kerry's recall. Only Teddy can, and the weight of the senior senator from Massachusetts shouldn't be underestimated. The Kerry campaign is his last hurrah, and the convention's in Boston, for goodness sake. What kind of a reception would follow a party that tossed Kerry onto the tracks?

Does Daschle care? Does Patty Murray? Barbara Boxer? Any of a half-dozen endangered Dem incumbents in the Senate and a score in the House? So the receiving committee is a littlie frosty and Teddy dumps them from the Christmas card list – they'll still have jobs.

And Dean – what's he thinking when he can get the voices to quiet down? He was robbed, you know ... by the same people now conspiring against Kerry. Dean doesn't forget, and there's not enough Ambien in America to get him a night's sleep. What if, with another yell, he decides to demand an open convention. "Let the delegates vote!" isn't a bad slogan. Bring back all the orange hats and the blog and all that. Quite a party could be had by all.

Bill Clinton just announced the publication date of his new memoir: Late June. How unfortunate for Kerry – Bill has to do a book tour for the month running up to the convention, sucking the air right out of an already spent balloon. Sorry, couldn't be avoided. Publisher deadlines and all.

So as Kerry melts away, there – on every television screen in the land – will be Saturday Night Bill, playing his sax, blowing his own horn, saying stuff. All sorts of stuff. Looking incredibly large, opposite the incredibly small Kerry.

Tick, tick, tick. The Torricelli Option. Coming to theaters near you this summer.





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To: Jim Noble
By September 15th, the Ticket will be

Clinton/Edwards!

IMHO, you can take that to the bank right now!

101 posted on 04/28/2004 8:25:51 AM PDT by Gritty ("Hillary is the godmother of the Clinton crime family"-Jim Robinson)
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To: RonDog
Hey Ron, can you get Hugh to quick acting like a spoiled school kid with his constant lunacy for all things Ohio, bashing SC, and smearing his colleague and fill in host Mark Larson? His act is wearing thin.
102 posted on 04/28/2004 8:31:36 AM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: Jim Noble
It is a mistake to assume that women will vote for Hillary just because she's a woman. Walter Mondale picked a woman as his running mate in 1984 and got trounced at the polls. More women voted for Ronald Reagan and George Bush than for Mondale and Geraldine Ferarro.

Here in Massachusetts, Republican Mitt Romney won easily over Shannon O'Brien for governor in the last gubernatorial election here. Being a woman didn't help O'Brien here in what is arguably the most liberal state in the union.

Hillary's "victory" in New York is overstated. She got into the race late and ran against a political neophyte (Lazio) who was also thrown into the race late in the game and was in over his head since Day One. Had Rudolph Guliani stayed in the race, it would have been a totally different story. And this was before 9/11.

Geraldine Ferraro and Shannon O'Brien (the losing gubernatorial candidate from Massachusetts) were both in the mold of Hillary Clinton. And they both lost resoundingly.

It is true that Hillary has a fanatic following among hard-core liberals. But she will also have many more who are just as fanatically opposed to her - including many women. I'm not sure she will even take New York in a general election. In fact, I doubt she will even be re-elected to the senate there in 2006 anyhow. Her candidacy this year could well result in a 50-state blowout for Bush.

103 posted on 04/28/2004 8:40:44 AM PDT by SamAdams76 (I don't own this gas-guzzling SUV - my wife does!)
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To: JohnHuang2
If Kerry continues this path, it will indeed be a very interesting summer for us political junkies...
104 posted on 04/28/2004 8:46:22 AM PDT by eureka! (Note to Terry McAuliffe- Thanks for the early primaries!!!!!!)
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To: JohnHuang2
Weighty stuff ~ Bump!

We are winning ~ the bad guys are losing ~ trolls, terrorists, democrats and the mainstream media are sad ~ very sad!

~~ Bush/Cheney 2004 ~~

105 posted on 04/28/2004 8:56:08 AM PDT by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: JohnHuang2
The "smoke filled room" is making a comeback.

Only the this time the smoke is MaryJane instead of Cohiba.

106 posted on 04/28/2004 8:58:51 AM PDT by Semper Paratus
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To: Gritty
Absent a scandal of monstrous proportions, there's no way that Kerry won't be the nominee. Being a sure loser and having a crummy campaign won't do it.

He's simply too arrogant to go away, and would never willingly concede the nomination. And if he fights for it, the battle would tear the Dems apart, and they know it. What are you going to do, tell the entire country that he's a lousy candidate who can't win? That's why it will never happen.

I wish I could make a wager with Hugh on this one. Heck, I'd give him 10-1 odds and still count myself lucky.

107 posted on 04/28/2004 9:00:19 AM PDT by XJarhead
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To: JohnHuang2
alongside the 1980 Roger Mudd-Teddy Kennedy exchange through which it dawned on America that a senator in search of a verb wasn't really equipped to be a president.

Could someone elaborate on this? I was 2 years old at the time.

108 posted on 04/28/2004 9:06:18 AM PDT by Sir Gawain
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To: JohnHuang2
At this rate, Kerry had better not let Teddy the K drive him to the convention in Bah-stun.
109 posted on 04/28/2004 9:06:26 AM PDT by dirtboy (John Kerry - Hillary without the fat ankles and the FBI files...)
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To: Batrachian; Grampa Dave
The only way Kerry is leaving is through Clinton dirty tricks. Not impossible, but not so easy as people think. Kerry doesn't want to get thrown under the bus, and he won't go quietly. Why should he? He's not Torricelli.

OK.... I fell better now, I think.

I sure don't want to see Hillary!

110 posted on 04/28/2004 9:11:27 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The terrorists and their supporters declared war on the United States - and war is what they got!!!!)
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To: Jim Noble
Hillary has a huge "hidden" vote, and she absolutely can win.

You said it. Unfortunately, this is VERY TRUE. Most apolitical and all liberal women are going to vote for her. All big publications and media targeting women feed women liberalism between bon bons. Who do you think bought her book?

Just like many elderly Jews would have limped to the polls to vote for Lieberman for president, never having thought they'd live long enough to do so (and you know they voted for Gore for that reason, too: a Jew on the ticket!), so will many women of all ages vote for ANY woman running for president.

Hillary knows that fact and is COUNTING on it, because it will only happen the FIRST time a woman runs on a major ticket. It's the ace up her sleeve. Do not discount the way she will get the women's vote.

111 posted on 04/28/2004 9:30:12 AM PDT by Yaelle
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To: Cyclops08
Suddenly, in the skies above the Boston Convention...


112 posted on 04/28/2004 9:44:33 AM PDT by LexBaird (Tyrannosaurus Lex, unapologetic carnivore)
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To: Sir Gawain
" alongside the 1980 Roger Mudd-Teddy Kennedy exchange through which it dawned on America that a senator in search of a verb wasn't really equipped to be a president.

Could someone elaborate on this? I was 2 years old at the time."

Teddy was being interviewed by Roger Mudd, in a prime time,one on one interview, on NBC, IIRC. When asked by Mudd, why he wanted to be president-Kennedy went into a hummina hummina ,incoherent rambling discourse.Kennedy couldn't form an intelligible sentence on why he was running for president.
Basically, what we see Kerry doing today.
113 posted on 04/28/2004 11:28:11 AM PDT by Wild Irish Rogue
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Oh, I didn't mean to be reassuring. There's nothing reassuring about Democrats, especially the Clintons. I only meant to say that Kerry doesn't take marching orders from them and will fight to maintain his position.

I always thought that Kerry would be the eventual nominee, although I changed my mind when Dean came on strong and Kerry was sinking. I think my original sense was correct and Kerry will be the nominee, and I still think that he's well liked and respected by Democrat voters.

Even so, he's really just a place holder. Someone has to run this year, and he's the best of a bad lot, so he gets the nod. 2008 is when you should really worry.

114 posted on 04/28/2004 12:10:31 PM PDT by Batrachian
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To: JohnHuang2
bump to read later
115 posted on 04/28/2004 12:17:28 PM PDT by meema
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To: AmericaUnited
Hitlery's negatives and the negative turnout factor trumps any and all other factors. Anyone who thinks otherwise is just completely clueless as reagrds to US politics.

I think you dangerously underestimate the stupidity of America's voting women.
116 posted on 04/28/2004 12:28:50 PM PDT by Xenalyte (I may not agree with your bumper sticker, but I shall defend to the death your right to stick it)
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To: Roy Tucker
I don't think the Torricelli option is quite appropriate because there was the little matter of his conviction on corruption charges as opposed to his unpopularity. A better analogy is 1996 when we Republicans knew we were all going down to defeat with Bob Dole. Even though someone handpicked would probably have run a more exciting race against Clinton, no Republican proposed taking the nomination away from Bob Dole.

Not quite. Torricelli had not been convicted at the time he chose to withdraw. He was being dogged by the same corruption charges that had swirling around him since he first ran for Student Council at Rutgers. Eventually the rumors caught up with him and he was looking like a certain loser, so he voluntarily dropped out. He had not been convicted of anything at that point.

The reasons the 'Pubbies did not dump Dole but the 'Rats dumped Torricelli is that the 'Pubbies have some standards of decency. A 'Rat will do anything to win.

117 posted on 04/28/2004 12:39:14 PM PDT by bondjamesbond (Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Remember, Kerry didn't "win" the democrat presidential nomimation. He was the beneficiary of a foot-fault by Howard Yeeaaaaggghhh Dean, a rabid democrat base who went to the polls based solely on who did the best Bush-bashing, and a set of 9 opponents that looked like a freak show.

Nice take. Y'know for the last few days I have been feeling pretty good about "things" generally. I fugure that will last maybe two or three more days.

118 posted on 04/28/2004 12:43:47 PM PDT by freedomlover
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To: Yaelle
Hillary knows that fact and is COUNTING on it, because it will only happen the FIRST time a woman runs on a major ticket. It's the ace up her sleeve. Do not discount the way she will get the women's vote.

On the other hand, she has to have spectacularly high negatives among men. The question will be which effect is larger.

It gets even wackier considering the potential Hillary/Condi matchup in 2008. That would be the nastiest campaign in US history by far.

119 posted on 04/28/2004 12:45:25 PM PDT by ThinkDifferent
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To: XJarhead
I believe that the eventual Democratic ticket will be Hillary Clinton and Wesley Clark.

The best way to see if I have called it correctly is to watch for Bimbo Eruptions.

When Wesley Clark told the press that "Kerry has an intern problem," he was working for Hillary and running a test.

The theft of those old FBI documents from that book researcher was blamed by the Kerry campaign on Republican dirty tricks, but it was Hillary's people that did it. Remember, she is no longer in the White House and no longer has free, if illegal, access to live files from the FBI. She needed to know what was in those papers.

A few weeks before the convention, if Hillary is going to go for it, look for 4 or 5 of Kerry's bimbos to erupt simultaneously. Hillary will make sure her fingerprints are not on the eruptions, and her minions in the press will begin the drumbeat to draft Hillary. She'll stay above the fray and pretend that she has to be convinced to run.

If Ted Kennedy accepts the inevitable, then Hillary gets the nod on the third ballot. If Ted fights her, as Hewitt pointed out, then the party splinters into chaos with violence on the floor.

I'm betting on the latter.

120 posted on 04/28/2004 2:26:01 PM PDT by Publius (Will kein Gott auf Erden sein, sind wir selber Götter.)
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