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well, I have a different take. I wont accuse the FR house isolationists of being trolls.

There are 2 group in the anti-war movement, one the world sees (#1s) and one that FR has (#2s):
1. America is not good enough for the world to depose folks like Saddam (the Leftist anti-American types)
2. America is *too good* for the world, and places like Iraq are full of barbarians not worth fighting for (the isolationist Lew Rockwell types)

Both views are wrong, but most on FR are #2s, not #1s.

It seems though this argument about terror links devolves into people not accepting same set of facts, and these #2s are using the same phony arguments and latching on to suspect logic that we often see from #1 leftist types.

When you have sources saying "X", and their form of argument is "any source that says X is part of the neo-con plot", you really have a circular argument impervious to any reasonable conclusion from debate.

So best I can do is point out the sources facts out there and let them see it or not. You can lead a horse to water, but you cant make him drink.