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Kerry in Medals Meltdown, Slams Bush National Guard Record
NewsMax ^ | 4-26-04 | Carl Limbacher and NewsMax.com Staff

Posted on 04/26/2004 6:20:10 PM PDT by jmstein7

An angry-sounding John Kerry denied Monday morning that he ever claimed to have thrown away his three Purple Hearts and two medals for combat valor during an April 1971 anti-war demonstration, blaming Republicans for the new controversy and blasting President Bush's National Guard record.

"This comes from a president and a Republican Party that can't even answer whether or not he showed up for duty in the National Guard," a seething Kerry told "Good Morning America's" Charlie Gibson.

Kerry was responding to a 1971 interview unearthed by ABC News in which he told WRC-TV that he "gave back" somewhere between six and nine of his medals during a Washington, D.C., demonstration days earlier. News coverage of the episode shows Kerry and other Vietnam veterans throwing medals onto the steps of the Capitol building.

When pressed by WRC on whether the medals he "gave back" included his Purple Hearts and his other medals for valor, he replied, "Well, above that, I gave back my others."

But Kerry insisted to GMA that there was nothing to the story, and again tried to shift the focus to President Bush.

"This is being pushed yesterday by Karen Hughes in the White House on Fox. It shows up on several different stations at the same time," he complained. "This comes from a president who can't even show or prove that he showed up for duty in the National Guard. And I'm not going to stand for it."

As Gibson continued to press Kerry for answers, the Democratic presidential candidate raised Bush's service record for a third time.

"George Bush has yet to explain to America whether or not - and tell the truth about whether he showed up for duty. I'm not going to get attacked on something that I did that is a matter of record."

Challenged on the discrepancy between what he told WRC and what he says now, Kerry told Gibson, "Back then, ribbons, medals were absolutely interchangeable," insisting that he never said he had returned his combat medals.


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To: MonroeDNA
Kerry just can't help himself. Russert lobs him a softball and practically begs Kerry to define why people should vote for him and not just against Bush and all Kerry could do was attack Bush! Then Jennings gives Kerry the opportunity to come clean and put it all behind him and he lies yet again! Kerry is his own worst enemy.
41 posted on 04/26/2004 7:35:00 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Even if the government took all your earnings, you wouldn't be, in its eyes, a slave.)
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To: lightening Bug
I think a lot of things have changed over the years you've been watching politics, but I don't disagree with your conclusion. One thing that has changed is that things that would end a politician's career thirty years ago are dismissed as mere peccadillos these days - for example, the possession of two FBI files put Nixon's aides in prison, the possession of 1000 of them and the Clintons skated. Nixon lying to the press got him canned; Clinton lying in a sworn statement in a court of law got him sympathy. I think that Kerry will be judged by this same sliding scale of standards.

But this is damaging him. The Vietnam hero/protestor triangulation that the Dems thought was unbeatable turns out to be predictably shallow because everybody in the country doesn't agree that the protestors were right, but pretty much everybody in the media, and certainly everybody in the DNC, does. They're simply as out of touch with the truth of the matter now as they were in 1971.

42 posted on 04/26/2004 7:39:37 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Ethyl
Just the day before yesterday he was giving a speech sound bite how people should stop slamming Bush for being AWOL during the war and then today on ABC "HE" is slamming Bush over and over at every turn for being AWOL from the war... duh... is this like... just too difficult for Dems to connect the dots?

On another note... at least Jane Fonda has come out publicly and apologized for her Hanoi Jane behavior and said she was WRONG. It will never make up for it, but its "something"... that makes her better than Kerry in my book.
43 posted on 04/26/2004 7:39:47 PM PDT by Integrityrocks
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To: muawiyah
Again, a serious reminder ~ with few exceptions (mostly Indiana Air Guard) the Guard and the Reserve, per se, really didn't have anything to do with Viet Nam (unless they missed too many drills and got sent to an active duty unit).

Well aside from being way off the mark, since over 9500 Guardsmen and thousands of Reservists were, in fact, deployed to Vietnam, along with at least 35 Reserve units, you miss my point. Kerry and his ilk, again, as late as yesterday, have called President Bush an outright shirker for joining the Air National Guard in lieu of being sent to Vietnam. He and his punk ass DNC chairman have denigrated the honorable service of millions of Guard and Reserve soldiers, marines, seamen and airmen in the process. I'm looking forward to some payback in the voting booths.

44 posted on 04/26/2004 7:44:18 PM PDT by TADSLOS (Right Wing Infidel since 1954)
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To: jmstein7
"Back then, ribbons, medals were absolutely interchangeable...

Not to anybody who knows anything about military decorations. There is a huge difference between medals and the ribbons that represent them. Maybe it's only a difference of perception, but it's an important distinction.

Ribbons can be bought at the exchange and are worn on the everyday working uniform. Medals are awarded and are worn on the dress uniform. They are special. But apparently not to Kerry, who can't tell the difference.

45 posted on 04/26/2004 7:49:18 PM PDT by Not A Snowbird (You need tons click "co-ordinating")
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To: jmstein7; MeekOneGOP; devolve
BTT - BIG TIME!
47 posted on 04/26/2004 7:56:39 PM PDT by Happy2BMe (U.S.A. - - United We Stand - - Divided We Fall - - Support Our Troops - - Vote BUSH)
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To: jmstein7
EfnK is a true mental case. I say that with dead seriousness and no sarcasm. Absolutely cracked. There has to be some mental care or hospitalizations in his record [or renamed "surgeries"] nobody knows about. I'd bet the house on it.
48 posted on 04/26/2004 8:01:06 PM PDT by Indie (We don't need no steenkin' experts!)
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To: jmstein7
"This comes from a president and a Republican Party that can't even answer whether or not he showed up for duty in the National Guard," a seething Kerry told "Good Morning America's" Charlie Gibson.

Ah, another lie--Bush released all of his records. Why don't you do the same, Mr. Kerry?

49 posted on 04/26/2004 8:03:57 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: TADSLOS
Actually, having lived through the critical period Kerry is pointing to (1965-71), only a fool would say the dodgers didn't flock to every reserve or guard billet they could find ~ or, you could simply get married! (Lots of people forget that one).

Does that mean everybody in the Guard was a shirker? I have to ask myself if 9,500 NGs who "went" were shirkers. Obviously they weren't, but then again, an awful lot of them ended up "going" because they missed too many drills and their officers decided to force them into active duty where they could get sent to Nam and die (as did 900 of them).

Let me cynically suggest that it's a little bit late for you Guard partisans to begin clasping some of our active duty Viet Nam War heroes to your breasts. You tossed them to us. They got killed in the war. It's over. Get over it!

Still, there's the matter of what Kerry did. He joined the Navy. During that same critical period it really wasn't any different than the National Guard or any Reserve.

The risk of death, dismemberment or maiming in a war during that period of time was much less in the Guard, Reserves, Navy, Air Force or Coast Guard than in the Army combat arms, or the Marine Corps.

Kerry got fooled. The Navy had these small boats and each one needed an officer. He got to do target practice. Bet it was a real surprise to him. The record shows he got out of there as fast as he could.

50 posted on 04/26/2004 8:11:39 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: jmstein7
Would anybody expect anything less from an Anti-American, elitist, ultra-liberal, snob, millionaire. Did anyone actually hear his tone with Gibson. His arrogant, condescending, snobbery made me sick. I hope they do review the tapes, he lied, big deal, Clinton lied every other word. During this time of war I think the American people should see John Kerry throwing his medals(ribbons) whatever, over the fence. Its what he does.He says F... You America. Its what he thinks of the heroes currently fighting for us. He already sold out all the Pat Tillmans and other heroes who died fighting for OUR freedoms, that we take for granted. He already sold out all the heroes of 911 who gave their life that day to try to help others. His whole campaign for president has been one seditious attack after another. He will go down in flames, Ya see Americans are the good guys and were fighting for a just cause, and all his hate speech and lies wont work. The good guys have truth, freedom, liberty and God on our side.
51 posted on 04/26/2004 8:16:16 PM PDT by Braveforever (Osama for Kerry 04)
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To: Billthedrill
I think you are on to something here.

When you say "they are just as out of touch today as they were in 1971", I agree.

I'm a Nam vet and I never would have considered throwing my medals away. I have never known nor met a Nam guy who felt differently.

Kerry disgraced his own service, and slandered the rest of us who served.

He is unworthy yet has the pompous arrogance to presume he should be the Commander in Chief.

I suggest we be vigilant in stopping him and the DNC from attempting to suppress (as they did in 2000) the overseas absentee military ballot.

The 2000 election is proof that they know they don't have the troops support.

52 posted on 04/26/2004 8:16:55 PM PDT by smoothsailing (Eagles Up !!!!!)
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To: TADSLOS
This Election is starting to look like it may be a three-fer: JFK, Madamn Hillary and Fat_ss Eddie....all get Bush-whacked. Yippee-ky-odee-a, gallopin all the way!
53 posted on 04/26/2004 8:22:05 PM PDT by iopscusa (El Vaquero)
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To: GailA
"KERRY TO DEMS: STOP 'AWOL' JABS AT DUBYA"

Thanks for inserting that reminder, GA. Just two months ago, Kerry had party stooges like McAuliffe to do his dirty work for him and could pretend to be above the fray. But the first time he gets asked a hard question by the media, he can't stop gibbering about the settled matter of Bush's service record.

54 posted on 04/26/2004 8:22:41 PM PDT by Bonaparte
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To: jmstein7
The thing is, Kerry is lying about Bush too! He has answered those questions, released his record, and one of his accusers has admitted he lied! Where was Kerry when all of this happened? It was in the papers! I guess he was off protesting the war on terror or calling Bush a F'n liar or something.
55 posted on 04/26/2004 8:25:06 PM PDT by ladyinred (Kerry has more flip flops than Waikiki Beach)
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To: jmstein7
"George Bush has yet to explain to America whether or not - and tell the truth about whether he showed up for duty. I'm not going to get attacked on something that I did that is a matter of record."

Beginning of alzheimers?

Was it not the Dems who just forced even GW's dental records out for 'public scrutiny'?

What a great play for Kerry; yes, throw down the gauntlet; play the victim; knowing that most people will not remember how this story began.

56 posted on 04/26/2004 8:25:19 PM PDT by cricket (Terrorists are weapons of mass destruction. . .)
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To: SandyInSeattle
There is a huge difference between medals and the ribbons that represent them.

Have to disagree on this one. I've no idea where my medals are, nor do I care. I know what I am authorized to wear & the ribbons, to me, are the medals.

Kerry, I think, is trying to distinguish between throwing non-Medals (longevity awards, etc) and throwing real medals that mean a lot to people - Purple Hearts, etc. And he has already stated he threw the Purple Hearts (which he didn't earn), Bronze & Silver Stars (ditto) and others.

He's trying to have it both ways - and that is part of what is hurting him.

The other part that hurts him is his thin-skin and condensention - "No, Charlie, you didn't see what you saw!"

It is different from Clinton because Clinton didn't publicly get pissed off and talk down to his willing allies in the press.

57 posted on 04/26/2004 8:25:37 PM PDT by Mr Rogers
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To: lightening Bug
My real fear is John Edward will fill the breach.

Then you are in great shape. The man couldn't even win a dem nomination when he was actually running and you think he can win the general election?

Look up "lightweight" in the dictionary...John Edwards' pic is right there.

58 posted on 04/26/2004 8:31:23 PM PDT by cyncooper
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To: muawiyah
As former active and reserve, the points are (1) Kerry's denigration of those avenues of service to our country when calling Bush AWOL (2) Comparing service in the Guard and Reserve to going to Canada and (3) Surely a rich blue-blood from Massachusettes could have found a more honorable way to oppose the war than throwing medals and calling his fellow soldiers 'war criminals'.
59 posted on 04/26/2004 8:35:23 PM PDT by gogipper
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To: jmstein7; Poohbah; section9; Dog; rdb3; Miss Marple; Dog Gone; Catspaw; wimpycat; Luis Gonzalez; ...
He even accused Charlie Gibson and GMA staff of working for the RNC!

This is NOT George Bush Sr. vs. Dan Rather by any stretch of the imagination.
60 posted on 04/26/2004 8:42:35 PM PDT by hchutch (Tommy Thompson's ephedra ban STINKS.)
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