Threat Matrix: Daily Terror Threat - Thread Seven

The Washington Times ^ | 4-26-04 | Bill Gertz

[JustPiper]

"I will never cower before any master nor bend to any threat"

Two Chinese diplomats, away from their Los Angeles consulate improperly, recently sped their vehicle past a Los Alamos National Laboratory guard post near classified facilities in what U.S. officials think was an intelligence mission, The Washington Times has learned.

[Cindy]

Australian-German Shepherd.

All my dogs have been and will be German Shepherds, but this dog has character so here she is.

[WestCoastGal]

This is how she looked when Rumsfeld asked said "I don't know how YOU would know that" about the pictures being released.

[null and void]

Something to look forward to...

[nw_arizona_granny]

There was a Freeper post yesterday on the main list, it didn't say in the article much about the why, but some of the posters seemed to say that these doctors were not guilty, may not have even been there at the time.

Or came and used stored blood that had the virus in it.

There is a new post and it makes me wonder what is going on, lately there have been several news releases that has Libya telling us to drop dead.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1131663/posts

Russia to Cooperate with Iran

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1131665/posts

[judicial meanz]

Thanks for clarifying that for me. I've been travelling lately and have missed gaps in the coverage of this story.

Rape and murder are different animals and I cant stand by anyone who would sink that low, military or non military.

I am a firm believer in the old West Point theory of "once your enemy is defeated and under control, you treat them as you would want to be treated". Thats the way I was trained, and thats how I see that.

Murder and rape are criminal offenses, and should be dealt with according to the UCMJ.

That being said, I still stand behind the statements about muslim prisoner of war treatment and how they need to act according to to the law of armed conflict and Geneva Convention accords when they have our prisoners in custody.

Sharia law allows them to enslave our guys and girls, rape them at will, and treat them as possessions.

If we hold our own accountable, they should abide by the rules too. If they dont, then we can expect more prisoner atrocities from their side while we have witch hunts for non PC behavior.

[nw_arizona_granny]

When i first saw the name of Bilal mosque, it reminded me that I had seen it before and I suspect it was in some of the daleel threats.

I googled for : bilal and for:1425 bilal, the 1425 is the better search and led to a lot that I can't read with this computer.

What is this site, it looks like a branch of the religion, but it also says that the free CD contains messages that are not otherwise available.

while it showed the below in the location bar:

://www.bilal-prayer.com

on my bottom of the screen space, where is says "Document done" it showed: bilal_prayer.com/Prayer.exe (then the .exe changed to Java script error, is that what saved me?

I took the http of the url, so it isn't a live url.

When I see anything with .exe, I start getting nervous.

Bilal mosque are also in Africa and England.

http://www.salaam.co.uk/mosques/index.php

Chicago Islam Radio Channel 1101

http://islamicity.com/multimedia/radio/ch1101

The next one is more than likely a news report on the Spain bombing, but I can make out lots of key words and it is in Spanish, so will send a link for you to play with.

Communicado de "al-Qaeda" 11-m-

http://barcelona.indymedia.org/newswire/display/80790/index.php

[Donna Lee Nardo]

But you know you cannot believe everything you read. Definitely not based on one hearsay -- or two or even three hearsays -- alone anyway.

I don't want you stuck with debt that you will have a hard time paring down.

[Donna Lee Nardo]

Good to know you were joking for certain. Are you a poker player? You left out the </end sarcasm> tags. Seriously, if you peruse some of the posts about the comets over at some other sites, you know that a post like yours on FR would raise some eyebrows.

I spent part of this afternoon looking at some outrageous posts about the comets and other various and sundry things that the posters tied into that with no logic at all. So, when I saw your post, I forgot I was back here on Earth on FR!

There are many doomsayers or doomsdayers out there. Not too many if any at all here though, so your post stood out. Not that doomsayers will always be wrong, one day they will certainly be right. Still, I hope you were not joking about your lobster and I hope you enjoyed it. P.S. Who knows when the doomsdayers will be right....they only have to be right once.

[WestCoastGal]

Oh goodie someone has the transcript of the Hitlery attempt to attack Rumsfeld.

Now here is the full transcript:
Clinton/Rumsfeld exchange......

CLINTON: Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

CLINTON: I think, Mr. Secretary, that you can discern from the questions that there are still many issues that we need further clarification on. I particularly look forward to the answer that you will provide to Senator Reed's last question -- following up on his line of questioning concerning the enabling of interrogation by M.P.s, something which, based on Army regulations, was not to be either done or condoned.

But, Mr. Secretary, in January 2002, when you publicly declared that hundreds of people detained by U.S. and allied forces in Afghanistan do not have any rights under the Geneva Convention, that was taken as a signal.

And it is clear in looking through the number of investigations that are currently ongoing, that it wasn't just this particular battalion but others that did not receive appropriate training and information about their responsibilities with respect to detention or the Geneva Convention.

The atrocities that have been depicted in photographs were very graphically, verbally, described in the Taguba report. It doesn't take a lot of imagination to read those descriptions and have one's stomach just turn in disgust.

The focus on the pictures being released is, with all due respect, missing the point. The report was well known, and apparently discussed on numerous occasions. And obviously, the release of the pictures to the entire world was devastating.

But the underlying conduct, and the failure of the command, both at the site and further up the chain, to act with the appropriate quick response, is really at the heart of what the most serious problems we face here today are.

CLINTON: The information in the Taguba report links the atrocities at Abu Ghraib to Camp Buka. In fact, some of the same people, some of the same command, some of the same M.P.s were involved apparently.

And with respect to the recommendations at the end of General Taguba's report, they call for establishing the conditions with the resources and personnel required to prevent future occurrences of detainee abuse.

I would appreciate, since we don't have time in this round of questioning, to receive for the committee a report about exactly how that is being handled. What changes have been made? Are the Geneva Convention training going on now? Are the appropriate rules being posted in both English and Arabic?

And certainly an explanation as to the adequacy of the punishment that was meted out because, with respect to who was being punished for what, there is a clear distinction -- at least as reported by General Taguba -- between enlisted personnel and those up the command.

But I'm also concerned by a related matter. And let me just quickly reference the case of Chaplain Yee, the Muslim Army chaplain from Guantanamo Bay who was arrested and placed in solitary confinement. Ultimately all of the charges were dropped after his reputation was sullied.

CLINTON: It's obvious that the information about this particular case came from government sources. It was pushed out and it was widely disseminated.

So, Mr. Secretary, how is it that a case with no basis in fact gets such widespread publicity, based on information from government sources, while egregious conduct like that at the Abu Ghraib prison is cloaked in a classified report, and is only made available when the investigation is leaked to the press?

RUMSFELD: Well, Senator, first let me say, with respect to the question that Senator Reed raised, I can't conceive of anyone looking at the pictures and suggesting that anyone could have recommended, condoned, permitted, encouraged, subtly, directly, in any way, that those things take place.

Second, the decision that was made by the president of the United States that you referred to was announced. And in the announcement it was said that the Al Qaida in Guantanamo that are captured in the world, mostly in Afghanistan, would be treated consistent with the Geneva Convention. That is a fact.

>>>>>>You say the report was well known. I don't know how you know that. All I know is when it made the public, when somebody took a secret document out of prosecutorial channels and released it to the press, I do not believe it was yet anywhere in the Pentagon. Certainly, I had not been given it or seen it.

I quite agree with you. When you read the report, you do get an impression, as you suggested, that there is something much worse than what was in the press release, for example, in January or the discussion in March by the Central Command.

RUMSFELD: But that was not something that had been moved past the Central Command, to my knowledge. It may have been somewhere in the Department of Defense, but certainly I had not received a copy. It was still in those channels.

Thanks to hole_n_one for providing the : Full transcript is here

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1131625/posts?page=145#145

[Donna Lee Nardo]

Thanks West CoastGal! I love that portrayal of Rummy.

[Donna Lee Nardo]

LOL!

[Cindy]

Yes.
It's quite a list.

[Cindy]

There does seem to be an agenda here, but I don't know which agenda and whose agenda this scandal is originating from.

We'll see.

[Cindy]

My steak bbq was excellent....hope yours is too Jersey Girl.

[Cindy]

Pagans and Vegans?

[Cindy]

Well, Saturdays are great, too.

[Cindy]

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[Cindy]

Well, it wasn't half as bad as this winter when I stepped down in a snow drift past my waist and my husband got me out with our tractor.

Some people are made for outdoor living and then there's the rest of us.

[DAVEY CROCKETT]

We have a winner! There are no words to describe the comtemp I have for this women.

We have a thread already going.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1131733/posts

[DAVEY CROCKETT]

I hope and pray Rummy knew all along and set this witch up.
He sure acted like he knew then, slam dunked her.