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Kerry and coal
Townhall.com ^ | April 26, 2004 | Robert Novak

Posted on 04/26/2004 12:29:12 PM PDT by xsysmgr

 WASHINGTON -- Last Oct. 20, Sen. John Kerry, in nonstop derision of President Bush, declared: "Where we see a beautiful mountaintop, George Bush sees a strip mine." That environmentalist rhetoric, backed by Kerry's Senate voting record, injects the senator into confrontation with the coal industry that could defeat him for president. That is his burden in Wheeling, W.Va., Monday, on a campaign swing that includes visiting a coal mine.

 Coal is a side issue in Congress, but it is critical to two states won by Bush in 2000 that could decide the 2004 presidential election. Coal production is important for Ohio and absolutely vital to West Virginia. If Kerry is perceived as anti-coal, he could lose both states -- and the presidency.

 On this week's visit to West Virginia, Kerry is likely to condemn as inadequate Bush's investment for clean coal technology (currently $2 billion over 10 years). He echoes the anti-Bush line by the state's most powerful Democrat, Sen. Robert Byrd. Mine owners laugh it off, noting you can't have clean coal if Kerry-backed measures eliminate all coal.

 This disadvantage of an incumbent senator running for president may explain why only two have been successful. While governors (Jimmy Carter, Ronald Reagan, Bill Clinton and George W. Bush) have obscured their positions on delicate questions, Kerry cannot escape the impact of thousands of votes during 20 senate years.

 One such vote came in 1999. Byrd, grand protector of West Virginia, proposed an amendment to preserve coal production. It was designed to override liberal U.S. District Judge Charles Haden's decision, since reversed, to end mountaintop mining in West Virginia.

 Byrd told the Senate that his amendment was intended "to allow for the continuation of our coal industry and the jobs it provides while better protecting the mountains and hollows of the state we love." With the United Mine Workers strongly behind Byrd's amendment, it passed the Senate Nov. 18, 1999, by 56 to 33. Kerry was one of the 33.

 Kerry also co-sponsors environmentalist Sen. James Jeffords's Clean Power Act, which the coal industry regards as a death sentence in eliminating 90 percent of mercury emissions by 2008. The non-partisan Energy Information Administration (EIA) estimates the Jeffords bill would reduce coal consumed for electricity by 43 percent, losing 1 million jobs.

 Last year, Kerry voted for (while Byrd was voting against) the Lieberman-McCain Climate Stewardship Act, which would move the U.S. toward the Kyoto global warming protocol. The EIA estimated the bill would reduce coal's share of electricity from 50 percent down to 11 percent, eliminating 50,000 coal industry jobs.

 Kerry has not deviated from this environmentalist standard. And he must find a way to defend it in Ohio, where huge industrial job loss could portend Republican disaster and Democratic bliss. Republicans never have elected a president without carrying Ohio.

 Republican Sen. George Voinovich of Ohio pounds the table in the Senate Environment and Public Works Committee when the Jeffords bill is discussed, asking: "Do we want to do away with coal? If we do want to do away with coal, what is going to take its place?" The Ohio Coal Association, which orchestrated the state legislature's passage of a resolution condemning the Jeffords bill, is preparing to put Kerry's record in the hands of every coal industry worker in the state (and neighboring states, including West Virginia).

 While Ohio long has been pivotal in presidential elections, West Virginia has been a backwater -- until recently. George W. Bush visited Morgantown, W. Va., the last weekend of the 2000 campaign to pin down five electoral votes from the overwhelmingly Democratic state, which Al Gore had alienated partly because of his perceived anti-coal position.

 Nearly all the early political maps made for 2004 have West Virginia swinging back to the Democratic column this year, but the most recent poll by the American Research Group shows a flat-out tie at 46 percent. Kerry does not help by lauding his endorsement by the League of Conservation Voters, an organization that has labeled coal as one of the "inefficient, destructive fossil fuels of the past that pollute our air and water." John Kerry on the campaign trail this week predictably will avoid embracing that position.



TOPICS: Politics/Elections; US: Ohio; US: Pennsylvania; US: West Virginia
KEYWORDS: coal; energy; environment; kerry; minning; robertnovak

1 posted on 04/26/2004 12:29:14 PM PDT by xsysmgr
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To: xsysmgr
"Where we see a beautiful mountaintop, George Bush sees a strip mine."

And, where President Bush sees terrorists who want to kill us, Kerry sees an "exaggerated threat".

2 posted on 04/26/2004 12:59:06 PM PDT by trebb (Ain't God good . . .)
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To: xsysmgr
Coal fired power plants can be quite clean.
The University of Alaska Fairbanks has a 10MW coal fired plant to run the University and it usually is only running at 3MW. Very clean. It sells it's pollution credits to plants in the lower 48.
3 posted on 04/26/2004 1:15:54 PM PDT by Chewbacca (I think I will stay single. Getting married is just so 'gay'.)
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To: xsysmgr
A strip mine is a thing of beauty.

Compared to a comparable mine underground it is efficient and extremely safer. After the coal is mined, the ground is leveled and replanted and can be a safe place for people and animals to live. An underground mine is still burning underground in Ohio and people die in cave-ins every year.

We need the energy and the coal-burning plants generate cleaner, more efficient energy without thousands of years of danger or foreign dependence.

For Hydrogen cars to work, we would need a source of electricity to charge the fuel cells. One coal plant can be cleaned more effectively that a thousand vehicles.

If this is really the direction the U.S is going to head, then we need coal.
4 posted on 04/26/2004 2:09:59 PM PDT by Only1choice____Freedom (Aesop never spoke about the persistent rabbit)
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To: Only1choice____Freedom
An underground mine is still burning underground in Ohio and people die in cave-ins every year.


What part of Ohio? I would like more information on this if you have it. Thanks!:)
5 posted on 04/28/2004 3:36:59 PM PDT by LadyShallott ("An armed society is a polite society."~Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: LadyShallott
There are several mines burning.
Here is a pdf about the enviornmental problems that mines have caused in that area:

http://www.ilgard.ohiou.edu/em/watershed_planning/monday_creek/environmental_justice/EJCaseStudy.pdf

From http://216.239.57.104/search?q=cache:ubIjAK45zpMJ:www.wilhelmconlon.com/Archives/trib%2520story.htm+glouster+Ohio+underground+mine+burning&hl=en

"Then it was coal's turn," he says. "Come back here in the winter, right here on this part of Route 13. The snow never sticks to this part of the road because more than a century ago disgruntled miners set underground fires that still warm the asphalt today. The people who lived and died and worked the coal mines in these hills helped fuel the Industrial Age. The nation prospered. Mine owners built great mansions in New York, Pittsburgh. The mines were played out and again this region was left behind."

Only the mines did not play out like he says. In 1970 there was a law passed that demanded coal scrubbing to remove sulpher and Ohio's coal was high sulpher compared to other mines so the demand for Ohio's coal has dropped over the years to a very low level.
6 posted on 04/29/2004 8:04:16 AM PDT by Only1choice____Freedom (give me my .... PRECIOUS!!!)
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To: LadyShallott
I'm sorry, I didn't mention the area of Ohio.

It is Glouster, Ohio near Ohio University in the southeastern area in the Hocking River valley.

Some of the most beautiful country God created.
(He coulda made it ugly.)
7 posted on 04/29/2004 8:06:51 AM PDT by Only1choice____Freedom (give me my .... PRECIOUS!!!)
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To: xsysmgr
For those of you who have never seen the ravages of strip mining let me tell you "It sucks." Its easy to sit back and put in your opinions but until you have lived it you opinion doesn't count for much.
8 posted on 04/29/2004 8:19:09 AM PDT by JamesA ( The more you try to change my convictions the more resolved I am to keep them.)
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To: Only1choice____Freedom
Thank you for the details. Not far from where we call home, it is beautiful. I will never live in a city again. :)
9 posted on 04/29/2004 8:54:01 AM PDT by LadyShallott ("An armed society is a polite society."~Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: xsysmgr
What we really need is more windmills.
10 posted on 04/29/2004 8:55:28 AM PDT by biblewonk (The only book worth reading, and reading, and reading.)
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To: JamesA
"For those of you who have never seen the ravages of strip mining let me tell you "It sucks." Its easy to sit back and put in your opinions but until you have lived it you opinion doesn't count for much."

I have, and I've also seen them reclaimed and I've enjoyed (and I'm sure you have too, judging from the electrons you've placed into the internet) the benefits from the electricity.

11 posted on 04/29/2004 9:02:26 AM PDT by Godzilla (Go ahead and freeze to death in the dark.)
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To: xsysmgr
And plenty of mines in southwest PA, too...
12 posted on 04/29/2004 9:04:08 AM PDT by Diddle E. Squat (When did Pro-Life become Pro-Defeatist? Why have the manic-depressives been allowed to take over?)
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To: JamesA
For those of you who have never seen the ravages of strip mining let me tell you "It sucks." Its easy to sit back and put in your opinions but until you have lived it you opinion doesn't count for much.

That same 1970 law also demands reclaimation of the mined land within a certain peroid of time using money set aside in escrow. These places you speak of were mined before the law came into effect and the companies who owned the mines were suied out of existance to get the law in the first place.

There was a time when enviormentals were doing some good. However, they no longer do the kind of work that caused this reclaimation to become law. They could reclaim these areas if they wanted to use that money for doing so. They used to.

13 posted on 04/29/2004 2:33:13 PM PDT by Only1choice____Freedom (give me my .... PRECIOUS!!!)
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