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U.S. Extends Fallujah Cease-Fire 2 Days
Associated Press ^ | April 25, 2004 | Jason Keyser

Posted on 04/25/2004 8:13:15 PM PDT by AntiGuv

FALLUJAH, Iraq - The U.S. military extended a cease-fire for Fallujah on Sunday for at least two more days, backing down from warnings of an all-out Marine assault and announcing that American and Iraqi forces would begin joint patrols in the city.

The patrols are to begin as early as Tuesday, and Fallujah officials will announce in the city that anyone seen carrying a weapon will be considered hostile.

Meanwhile, a U.S. general told The Associated Press that troops will move into a base on the edge of the holy city of Najaf to be abandoned by Spanish troops when they withdraw from Iraq in the coming weeks. But the Americans will remain away from holy sites — an effort to avoid outraging Iraq's Shiite majority, which opposes any U.S. foray near their most sacred shrine.

The troops aim to "counter the forces" of radical Shiite cleric Muqtada al-Sadr, Brig. Gen. Mark Hertling said. A coalition spokesman, Dan Senor, said weapons were being stockpiled in mosques and schools in Najaf — a practice he said must stop.

The measures in Fallujah and Najaf were announced a day after President Bush held a teleconference with senior national security and military advisers to discuss the situation in Fallujah and the rest of Iraq.

The moves appeared aimed at bringing a degree of control over the cities without re-igniting the intense violence that began when U.S. authorities moved on the two fronts simultaneously at the start of April.

The wave of fighting since has killed up to 1,200 Iraqis and 111 U.S. troops, nearly as many in 25 days as the 115 Americans who were killed during the two-month invasion that toppled Saddam Hussein a year ago.

The deal to bring patrols into Fallujah meant extending the cease-fire, the U.S. military said. Military action in the city was still an option, Brig. Gen. Mark Kimmitt said, but the warning was dramatically toned down from those in the past week.

The new steps in Fallujah were not without risks.

There was little guarantee that guerrillas in Fallujah won't attack joint U.S.-Iraqi patrols. Some Marine commanders said privately they had hoped to push on with an offensive deeper into the city and were concerned Marine patrols would become targets.

Iraqi security forces due to patrol with them were equally ill at ease.

"I don't feel safe because the Americans themselves are not safe," police Capt. Jassim Abed said. "They get shot at. They can't guarantee safety for themselves, so how can they guarantee my safety?"

Marine Lt. Col Brennan Byrne, on Fallujah's outskirts, said patrols may not start until Thursday as Marines and Iraqi forces organize them.

He said the patrols would be backed by armor and air support but for now will steer clear of Fallujah's Julan district, a poorer neighborhood where many insurgents are concentrated.

"It will be a combat patrol in the city that is prepared to deal with anything they run into," he said. "If we are attacked, we will absolutely eradicate that source of fire." But he added that individual attacks would not lead to a wider engagement.

U.S. occupation leaders are under pressure not to launch major military action. Some U.S.-picked Iraqi leaders were angered by the Fallujah siege. The top U.N. envoy for Iraq, Lakhdar Brahimi — who has been asked by Washington to help pick a new government — warned the United States against assaults on Najaf or Fallujah

"When you surround a city, you bomb the city, when people cannot go to hospital, what name do you have for that? ... If you have enemies there, this is exactly what they want you to do, to alienate more people so that more people support them rather than you," Brahimi said of Fallujah on ABC's "This Week."

"In this situation, there is no military solution," he said.

In the latest U.S. deaths, a soldier was killed Sunday when a roadside bomb hit his patrol in eastern Baghdad. A U.S. Coast Guardsman also died of wounds suffered the night before in a suicide boat attack on oil facilities that killed two Navy sailors.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: appeasement; cater2terrorists; ceasefire; fallujah; iraq; vietnam; vietnam2; vietnamagain; vietnamii
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To: OXENinFLA
No surprise there, eh?
21 posted on 04/26/2004 6:50:29 AM PDT by HiJinx (Go with Courage, go with Honor, go in God's good Grace. Come home when you're done. We'll be here.)
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To: OXENinFLA
Thanks for the link, finally got the audio link working.
22 posted on 04/26/2004 6:57:16 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The terrorists and their supporters declared war on the United States - and war is what they got!!!!)
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To: randog
I am sure he is trying to look out for the best interest of his brothers and he had some pretty good ideas on how to go about dealing with the situation. I don't doubt his patriotism, but that remark was not necessary when we are trying to convince the public that Kerry is wrong and this is Not another Vietnam.
23 posted on 04/26/2004 7:01:07 AM PDT by areafiftyone (Democrats = the hamster is dead but the wheel is still spinning)
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To: AntiGuv


"Joint U.S.-Iraqi patrols of Fallujah are due to start on Tuesday under an agreement struck on Sunday between U.S. officials and negotiators for civic leaders in the town. But local people remain skeptical that such a deal can work."

"“I expect the U.S. and Iraqi forces to be exposed targets for the resistance. No one can control the feelings of the sons of Fallujah because they are very angry,” said local resident Abdul Hakim Shaker."

The sons of Fallujah need to die after the drawing and quartering of Americans that occured there. Our boys were drawn and quartered. Why are we negotiating? Elimination of fighting age males should be the goal. If the other cities don't get it, wash, rinse, repeat as necessary. The arab street can kiss my irish ass.
24 posted on 04/26/2004 7:02:48 AM PDT by kinghorse
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To: AntiGuv
Seems like the terrorists didn't get the message to stop shooting at the Marines.

Battle in Fallujah; Blast Levels Baghdad Building

[snip] Thick black smoke rose from Fallujah's Jolan district, a poor neighborhood thought to have a heavy concentration of Sunni insurgent fighters.

The firefight began Monday morning after a Marine platoon left their small base and moved 200 yards away to occupy two small houses. Enemy forces opened up with barrage of rockets, mortar and automatic weapons.

[snp]In the south, U.S. troops rolled into a base in Najaf to replace Spanish forces who are withdrawing and to increase pressure on the militia of anti-U.S. Shiite cleric Muqtada al-Sadr. The deployment brings the Americans about three miles from holy sites at the heart of the city.

Overnight, al-Sadr's forces shelled the base with 21 mortars, and one Salvadoran soldier was wounded, said Col. Pat White, commander of the U.S. 2nd Battalion, 37th Armored Regiment, which moved into the base.

25 posted on 04/26/2004 7:14:05 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Even if the government took all your earnings, you wouldn't be, in its eyes, a slave.)
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To: FreedomPoster
IMHO, our Marines are doing a fine job, but they are being held back and are fully capable of killing the Jihadis at a much faster rate.
26 posted on 04/26/2004 7:15:41 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Even if the government took all your earnings, you wouldn't be, in its eyes, a slave.)
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To: AntiGuv
P.S. It looks as though the Marine platoon was sent out on a mission to draw fire, i.e. darn near a suicide mission, and it is a miricle none of them were killed.
27 posted on 04/26/2004 7:17:34 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Even if the government took all your earnings, you wouldn't be, in its eyes, a slave.)
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To: randog
Bevalaqua wants people to look at him and say 'Isn't he smart?'.

He's overly impressed with himself to the point that I decided quite a while ago to ignore everything he says.

28 posted on 04/26/2004 7:37:01 AM PDT by ohioWfan (BUSH 2004 - Leadership, Integrity, Morality)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
Captain Dale Dye is on Bill Handel right now saying just that-- the Marines are ready to go and they are being held back. I don't get it, but Captain just said if they play out all diplomatic options they will be coming in from the moral high ground. Since when has that mattered in the world court?
29 posted on 04/26/2004 7:49:14 AM PDT by Cinnamon Girl
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To: randog
I think Bevalaqua, an ex-military man himself, is looking out for the best interests of his brothers.

I actually find him to be one of the more credible talking heads...and he says what he thinks without regard to PC.

You're absolutely right that he would have the best interests of his brothers as priority numero uno.

30 posted on 04/26/2004 7:58:39 AM PDT by evad (Such an enemy cannot be deterred, detained, appeased, or negotiated with. It can only be destroyed)
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To: randog
Politicians micro-managing military exercises--sounds like the Vietnam strategy to me. I think Bevalaqua, an ex-military man himself, is looking out for the best interests of his brothers.

Actually it's the commnder in chief that runs the war. Do you have a problem with that?

31 posted on 04/26/2004 8:07:25 AM PDT by FreeReign
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To: evad
You're absolutely right that he would have the best interests of his brothers as priority numero uno.

As well should the politicians, which means getting out of the way and letting the military do their job. Then again, I've read that the snipers are doing a bang-up job of terrorizing the terrorists, so perhaps this is a military strategy. Perhaps the delays are being imposed by us because it's easier to whittle down the opposition with snipers than to go through the city house-to-house and root them out. Maybe they're using Fallujah as a test bed for future dealings with jihadists--testing, analyzing, and refining tactics. Time will tell.

32 posted on 04/26/2004 8:17:13 AM PDT by randog (Everything works great 'til the current flows.)
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To: OXENinFLA
Good.

The Clash referred to the minarets in Rock the Casbah a lot. I wonder what a minaret actually is? Vestibule? Baptism tank?

33 posted on 04/26/2004 8:23:52 AM PDT by txhurl (The Jihadists: spectacular media violence, zero military significance, huge psych significance.)
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To: randog
Maybe they're using Fallujah as a test bed for future dealings with jihadists--testing, analyzing, and refining tactics. Time will tell.

Indeed, time will tell.

I have the utmost regard for the strategic and tactical skill of our military but absolutely shudder at the thought of this "house to house" assault that's been discussed.

34 posted on 04/26/2004 8:27:06 AM PDT by evad (Such an enemy cannot be deterred, detained, appeased, or negotiated with. It can only be destroyed)
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To: FreeReign
Actually it's the commnder in chief that runs the war. Do you have a problem with that?

So you're perfectly happy with the commander-in-chief's decision to not go after Saddam in Gulf War I because the "UN Mandate" had been achieved?

35 posted on 04/26/2004 8:32:36 AM PDT by randog (Everything works great 'til the current flows.)
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To: FreeReign
Actually it's the commnder in chief that runs the war. Do you have a problem with that?

As long as it's not a democrat, no problem.

36 posted on 04/26/2004 8:33:53 AM PDT by evad ("Such an enemy cannot be deterred, detained, appeased, or negotiated with. It can only be destroyed")
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To: Carry_Okie
Hmmm, looks like we got ourselves into another war that we done have the will to fight and win. I think it's time to get the troops out of Iraq, and Bush out of the white house for not supporting them. Just like LBJ. I can't stand leaders that pick a fight, get our kids killed and then won't let them fight back.
37 posted on 04/26/2004 8:44:27 AM PDT by jpsb (Nominated 1994 "Worst writer on the net")
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To: Chad Fairbanks
You should look up the definition of war sometime. And while you are at it looks at what happened to civilizations that decided not to fight, then a fight was required.
38 posted on 04/26/2004 8:49:51 AM PDT by jpsb (Nominated 1994 "Worst writer on the net")
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To: txflake

A Minaret (onion-shaped dome on top of a tower) is tactical high ground.

The Imams do the call to prayer from the Minaret, allowing all to hear that inane incessant wailing. Lord, I learned to hate that sound...


39 posted on 04/26/2004 8:53:58 AM PDT by HiJinx (Go with Courage, go with Honor, go in God's good Grace. Come home when you're done. We'll be here.)
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To: Chad Fairbanks
He's shipping out that ammo by the truckload. He deserves what he gets.
40 posted on 04/26/2004 9:25:48 AM PDT by jaykay (Government: half parasitic, half incompetent.)
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