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Kerry was AWOL from Navy Reserve service
April 25, 2003 | confidential

Posted on 04/25/2004 8:05:21 PM PDT by waRNmother.armyboots

John Kerry signed an agreement as part of his naval officer commission to serve at least 3 years on active duty and the remainder of his obligated 6 year service in the Ready Reserves. Ready Reserves are those who must attend drills.

This is the agreement he released with his military records:

http://news.findlaw.com/hdocs/docs/jkerry/offcandagr.pdf

You will note that Kerry obligated himself to at least 3 years active duty, and the remainder of a 6 year obligation in the READY (not Standby) Reserves.

He further agreed that while in the READY Reserves (from discharge to 1972) he would perform no less than 48 drills per year and up to 17 active duty days per year, or alternatively 30 active duty days per year.

None of the released records shows any record of his performing these Ready Reserve obligated days in 1970, 71, 72, after which he was transferred to the Inactive Reserves. (This is as of 22 April - he may have released more since then). The only Performance of Duty form released covers 1966. There should be one for every year.

Nor is there any excusal from drilling status in his records, or alternatively, pay and attendance records indicating that he performed any drills in 1970-72 as required of a Ready Reservist.

It was George Bush's alleged non-performance of his obligated reserve duty that caused all the furor last February, yet Kerry apparently can not show his performance of his obligated Reserve duty.

The Kerry campaign has said that his separation from active duty put him in the inactive, non-drilling Naval Reserve so he could run for Congress. This is NOT true, as follows:

This following website record shows his transfer from the Ready Reserves to the Standby (Inactive) reserves did not occur until March 1972, NOT upon his release from Active Duty to run for Congress (1969/70).

http://news.findlaw.com/hdocs/docs/jkerry/trnsfr2stndyrsrv.pdf

And this following form indicates the official transfer from the Ready Reserves to the Standby (Inactive) Reserves did not formalize until July 1972.:

http://news.findlaw.com/hdocs/docs/jkerry/servicercrd.pdf

Contrary to what Kerry's minions say, the wording on his Release from Active Duty (to run for Congress) does NOT put him in the INACTIVE RESERVES - it puts him in Inactive Duty status, which includes Ready Reserves with attendant drill obligation. BIG difference - and the confusion is understandable. The legal specifics are Title 10 duty (Active Duty) Green Card) vs.. Title 32 duty (Inactive Duty) Red Card).

Had he been placed in the INACTIVE RESERVES in 1970 upon his release from AD, as Kerry's people suggest, there would not have been the 1972 Transfer to the Standby Reserves form that I show above - he would have already been there.

Also, if the timing of these records is correct, as a drilling Ready Reserve naval officer, in 1970-72 he was somewhat restricted by military regulations in what comments he could make in public regarding statements on the military leadership and the National Command Authority. Yet this is the period of his most public protests and anti-war demonstrations. In fact, his hairdo in the 1970-72 period would not meet Navy standards, and he would be sent home from drill if he had ever attended one.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: awol; kerry; kerrysucks; navy; reservists; vietnam
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
Lucy! You got some 'splainin to do!


A.K.A. Sleepy Brown

41 posted on 04/25/2004 8:48:40 PM PDT by rdb3 (Let others praise ancient times; I am glad I was born in these.)
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To: waRNmother.armyboots

42 posted on 04/25/2004 8:48:46 PM PDT by Smartass (BUSH & CHENEY 2004 - THE BEST GET BETTER)
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To: Bellflower; FairOpinion
Or stupidity. (Probably both.)
43 posted on 04/25/2004 8:48:55 PM PDT by ilovew (In honor of Mike Adams, a high school classmate, who died in Iraq last summer.)
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To: dandelion
Upon posting your disagreement, you have conceded that this is open to discussion.

The title states it as fact, however.

44 posted on 04/25/2004 8:49:05 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (Must get Moose and Squirrel ... B. Badanov.)
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To: Smartass
Aaaaahhh! I'm going blind! What a hideous creature! What was that thing?
45 posted on 04/25/2004 8:50:01 PM PDT by ilovew (In honor of Mike Adams, a high school classmate, who died in Iraq last summer.)
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To: doug from upland
Okay, give me a summary please.

Well, the neat thing about FR is every thread will include someone who actually knows what they're talking about...and even if one isn't an expert, one can eventually develop the ability to determine who those people are on a thread.

It appears someone that doesn't actually know what they're talking about thought they'd found evidence Kerry had dodged reserve duty. A couple of people that actually do know what they're talking about pointed out that wasn't the case. And the orginal poster is throwing a fit.

46 posted on 04/25/2004 8:50:16 PM PDT by John H K
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To: waRNmother.armyboots
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NEVER FORGET


JOHN KERRY came back from the Vietnam War to call us American Soldiers fighting for Freedom there ..rapists and..


...TERRORISTS

http://www.TheAlamoFILM.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1320



MEL GIBSON came back from filming our real Vietnam War Story titled "WE WERE SOLDIERS" ..inspired to finally make his ultilmate story of Love and Sacrifice titled...


.."The PASSION of the Christ"

http://www.TheAlamoFILM.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=39081


I wonder who got the Story right..?



Signed:.."ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer / Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com

http://www.lzxray.com/guyer_collection.htm
(Battle of IA DRANG-1965 Photos)


NEVER FORGET

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47 posted on 04/25/2004 8:50:47 PM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE (Vet-Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.LZXRAY.com)
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To: optimistically_conservative
oops, sorry, I misstook you for your evil twin "pessimistically_liberal"
48 posted on 04/25/2004 8:50:59 PM PDT by gdc61
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To: BunnySlippers
Titles on FR often do not reflect the fallacy or truth of the article. It is clearly stated under subjects to be editorial or opinion.
49 posted on 04/25/2004 8:51:14 PM PDT by waRNmother.armyboots
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To: John H K
I don't think anyone's throwing a fit.
50 posted on 04/25/2004 8:52:43 PM PDT by ilovew (In honor of Mike Adams, a high school classmate, who died in Iraq last summer.)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
BTTT!!!!!!!
51 posted on 04/26/2004 5:14:29 AM PDT by E.G.C.
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To: waRNmother.armyboots
Ready Reserves are those who must attend drills

This is factually incorrect. The Ready Reserve must only show up once a year at a nearby military facility, to update their current status (contact info, college courses taken, et al). The Ready Reserve does not drill.

52 posted on 04/26/2004 5:16:07 AM PDT by PokeyJoe (Al Ramadi Special: Ziti parmigano and tomato basil sauce: $8.95)
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To: waRNmother.armyboots
I asked this question on FR months ago. Haven't heard anything about it until you brought it up.
53 posted on 04/26/2004 5:30:31 AM PDT by mass55th
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To: doug from upland
Did you know that John Kerry served in Vietnam?
54 posted on 04/26/2004 5:31:42 AM PDT by KC Burke (Men of intemperate minds can never be free....)
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To: waRNmother.armyboots
John Kerry's only defense this morning on ABC was "We still don't know if George W. Bush was AWOL or not".

The Kerry campaign is a quagmire. Staffers should pull out now.

55 posted on 04/26/2004 5:32:50 AM PDT by weegee (Maybe Urban Outfitters should sell t-shirts that say "Voting Democrat is for Old Dead People.")
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub; Madame Dufarge; metesky; ozone1; pkmaine; Atomic Vomit; ROCKLOBSTER; ...
Kerry sure is an UPFRONT kinda guy! ~snicker


56 posted on 04/26/2004 5:36:39 AM PDT by SheLion (Curiosity killed the cat BUT satisfaction brought her back!!!)
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To: SheLion
LOL! That's a keeper.
57 posted on 04/26/2004 5:40:15 AM PDT by shezza
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To: waRNmother.armyboots
....He pulls up........He shoots.......He Scores!!!
Well Done!!
58 posted on 04/26/2004 5:45:26 AM PDT by stocksthatgoup (illegitimo noncarborundium)
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To: waRNmother.armyboots
I had wondered if Hanoi John's contract required in active reserves. You have answered my question in spades. Thanks!
59 posted on 04/26/2004 5:48:10 AM PDT by Texas_Jarhead
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shoot!
"required in active reserves"
Should have been "required ANY actives reserves"
60 posted on 04/26/2004 5:49:24 AM PDT by Texas_Jarhead
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