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To: Congressman Billybob
Another measure of the sacrifice of America’s men (and today some women) in combat is the percentage of all soldiers who served, who were killed from any cause. In the Mexican War, that was 16.9%. In the Civil War, those were 12.8% on the Union side, 18.7% on the Confederate side, and 14.4% for both sides combined. We were reminded this week, in the funeral services for the eight crew members of the Confederate submarine Hunley, that all who fought in that conflict were Americans.

In all other wars, the percentage of those who served, who died of all causes, has been 2.5%. And in the last four wars, Korea, Vietnam, Gulf War and now Iraq, the percentage of deaths has been substantially less than 1% of all who served.

By printing cold statistics, by no means do I denigrate the loss of any single life in any war. These numbers represent one by one the fathers, husbands, and sons (and today mothers, wives and daughters) who took up the cause, went off to war, and returned to a decorated grave. But from these statistics, the LEAST bloody war we have ever fought is this one, with 42 deaths per month compared with the second-lowest total of 55 per month in the American Revolution.

But that isn’t a fair comparison. In all prior wars, the population of the United States was less, sometimes very much less, than it is today. The total blood cost to a society is in proportion to the total population. In 1776, the “United States of America” that was born in that war contained slightly less than 3 million people. Today the United States has slightly less than 300 million people.

So every single man who fell to British bullets, beginning with Crispus Attucks in the Boston Massacre and including the Minute Men who fell at Lexington and Concord, 229 years ago this week, was equivalent to 100 who fall in battle today. Measured against the total population of the day, the American Revolution was second only to World War II in the blood price paid by American citizens.

Looked at through the lens of facts and history, the argument that “Iraq is another Vietnam” is false on its face. Furthermore, the idea that the combat deaths of Americans in this war is “too high a price to pay” is really an argument that America should never go to war at any time and for any reason.

The idea that America should never fight another war for any reason is both honest and ancient. In 1776, in The American Crisis, Tom Paine urged the American Quakers to reconsider whether the Revolution’s cause was just, and do what they could to advance that cause, even if their service was only non-military.

The claim today that the blood cost is “too high” in this war is a false argument. Advances in training, equipment and tactics have seen to that. If we cannot bear this burden, we should disband our military worldwide and retreat to “fortress America,” for that would be the only option. And the attacks of 9/11 demonstrate that even such a wholesale retreat would be insufficient to protect our civilian population.

A poll by the Washington Post reported this week that “Two in three [respondents] said the nu er of casualties in Iraq is unacceptable, the highest reading since the war began 13 months ago.” This is a product of the American press dwelling in gory detail on each individual death at the top of the nightly news. If war deaths were reported the way auto accident deaths are -- only on the local news -- and auto deaths were all reported above the fold, would Americans conclude that auto “casualties are unacceptable”? After all, about 40,000 Americans are killed every year on the highways.

This poll result is another proof that the American press has become a coprophage, consuming its own excrement in order to survive. The press is reporting extensively the deaths in Iraq, with no context whatever about comparisons to prior wars. Such a poll result would not occur if the press reported combat deaths in the context of history, as I have done here.

If the press in 1776 - 1781 had reported combat deaths the way it does today, Congress would have withdrawn support for the Revolution in a few years. General Washington and his troops would have fled in fear of their lives. And today, we would be singing “God Save the Queen” before baseball games. Does that make the comparison clear enough?

With the facts so obvious, what’s fueling the arguments against the Iraq War? It is emotion only, unthinking and in deliberate rejection of the truth. It’s akin to the “feel good” politics that floated through the atmosphere of Woodstock nearly forty years ago like the sweet smell of marijuana.

I may be the only non-drug user in America who knew about the phenomenon of Woodstock before it happened. I then worked for an advertising agency, whose art department had a keen familiarity with “medicinal substances used for recreational purposes,”as the Libertarian Party says. The whole art department was anxious to head for Woodstock, and kept me informed on that.

Why bring up Woodstock? Well, just this week Country Joe and the Fish got together for a new concert. Barry (the Fish) Melton couldn’t join in, because he’s now in charge of the Yolo County Public Defender’s Office. So the reassembled group is just known as the Country Joe Band.

The band will certainly reprise its “I-Feel-Like-I’m-Fixin’-to-Die Rag,” with appropriate additional lyrics concerning Iraq. You remember the lyrics to the original, don’t you? “Well, it’s one, two, three / What are we fighting for? / Don’t ask me, I don’t give a damn / Next stop is Vietnam....” It’s appropriate to note that the first concert of the reconstructed band is in Berkeley, California, and that Country Joe McDonald was named after Josef Stalin, since his parents were both active Communists.

The opposition to the Iraq War has almost nothing to do with war itself, and everything to do with anti-American politics. And most of those who join in the criticism of the war now are simply stuck in Woodstock, mired in the mud of Max Yasgar’s farm. It was good fun then, but geopolitical nonsense. It’s less fun now -- even Country Joe has given up the drugs -- and it’s still geopolitical nonsense.

As I said to my colleagues in the art department so long ago, sorry to harsh your mellow, Dude, but the facts are what the facts are. - 30 -

About the Author: John Armor is an author and columnist on politics and history. He currently has an Exploratory Committee to run for Congress. - 30 -

©) 2004, Congressman Billybob & John Armor. All rights reserved.

5 posted on 04/22/2004 2:14:45 PM PDT by Congressman Billybob (www.ArmorforCongress.com Visit. Join. Help. Please.)
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To: Constitution Day; Howlin; mhking; JohnHuang2
Folks,

Please ping this out, if you think appropriate. The balance of the article is in Reply #5.

John / Billybob
8 posted on 04/22/2004 2:18:38 PM PDT by Congressman Billybob (www.ArmorforCongress.com Visit. Join. Help. Please.)
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To: Congressman Billybob
Dear Cong. BB,
Here are some new lyrics to that song, which I have been using at 'counters' for the last year:

"And it's 1-2-3 thousand Americans dead
If that don't make you mad
You got a hole in your head

And if 5-6-7 million more must die
I hope you know
like Country Joe
Your treachery is the reason why."
14 posted on 04/22/2004 2:40:34 PM PDT by Shazolene
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To: Congressman Billybob
"If war deaths were reported the way auto accident deaths are -- only on the local news -- and auto deaths were all reported above the fold, would Americans conclude that auto “casualties are unacceptable”? After all, about 40,000 Americans are killed every year on the highways."

I think it is probably a mistake to characterize what is happening in Iraq as a war. It is an occupation, and it is still new.

In time people will get used to it. The casualties will be buried on the back page and won't even rate a mention except on slow news days. Is that what you want?

If the draft is reinstated, however, then you can expect negative coverage 24/7. Unless Bush can get the troops out quickly, this looks like it might be even less popular than Vietnam.

At least the South Vietnamese were on our side then. I think it is beginning to dawn on people that the Iraqis, with the exception of the Kurds, hate America.

However, I think most people will forget about it like they have forgotten about Kosovo and Bosnia, unless the draft is re-instituted.
16 posted on 04/22/2004 2:47:44 PM PDT by monday
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To: Congressman Billybob
This is a product of the American press dwelling in gory detail on each individual death at the top of the nightly news.

You did not have to be at Woodstock to know Woodstock. Woodstock owned the mainstream TV media "news." Country Joe read the news every night on all three networks. No satellites in those days, the blood and gore film was booked on daily airline flights.

Anyone old enough should see the similarity -- here at home. Not over there.

The North Vietnamese Communists did not praise the American press and "anti-war" crowd for no reason.

The number of "anti-war" demonstrations today are fewer and the campus unrest is virtually non-existent compared to the 1960s and 1970s.

The "reporting" and the political shenanigans by the mainstream press and the "loyal" opposition are however virtually the same and have the same objective; to wit, the defeat / humiliation of the U.S. IMO. It is they who bring up Vietnam. It is they who should be on the defensive and doing the explaining.

23 posted on 04/22/2004 3:22:33 PM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (Benedict Arnold was a hero for both sides in the same war, too!)
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To: Congressman Billybob
Boomers who haven't seen the light!
34 posted on 04/22/2004 6:24:40 PM PDT by lainde (Heads up...We're coming and we've got tongue blades!!)
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To: Congressman Billybob
"But that isn’t a fair comparison. In all prior wars, the population of the United States was less, sometimes very much less, than it is today."

It also isn't "fair" because the numbers involved in combat were much, much smaller than even the CW. (Partly cuz the populace was greatly divided itself on this - you cannot include the entire colonial population in such a % as many would be Loyalists or disinterested.)

Actually, if you look at who was actually involved in combat *at each battle* in both the RevWar and the "1812" war (probably better called the British war), it is nothing short of miraculous the way the casualties seemed to go. Rebels/Americans often had tiny % below the apparent norm of any casualty % of any conflict, whereas the Brits often suffered huge %.

Back the the Iraq whining, frankly, all 1 has to mention is 20,000 Americans dead in *1 day* in my own local Sharpsburg action to barely sneeze at anything going on since. Sounds cold, I know, but perspective, and even a bit of humility, is what we need.
77 posted on 04/26/2004 10:54:53 AM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common Sense is an Uncommon Virtue)
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To: Congressman Billybob
Iraq is like Vietnam

Let me teach you how and why.

In Vietnam -
the enemy had sanctuaries. Laos, Cambodia and North Vietnam. These countries were off limits to ground troops and for a majority of the time, the most important target rich areas of North Vietnam were off limits as well.

In Iraq -
the enemy has sanctuaries. Syria is what Laos was, Iran is what Cambodia was, and the rest of Islam is like North Vietnam. EXCEPT, in Vietnam at least we bombed Cambodia and Laos. --TODAY, our leadership doesn't even have the guts to bomb Syria and Iran.

Matter of fact, For all of LBJ's and Nixon's faults, at least they never ever said "Communism is a religion of Peace". But today we are told by both sides of the aisle that Islam is a religion of peace.

More similarities. Rules of engagement, just like Nam, are handcuffing our brave troops. We know were the enemy is. We know the enemy has murdered mutilated burned and hung up for public ridicule - FOUR AMERICANS. Yet we do nothing but surround them and ask them to turn in their heavy arms.

In other words, you can torture Americans and all you have to do is turn in your heavy arms. Ask yourself this, what if the enemy had turned in their mortars and rpgs, then we would have lifted the siege and all would have been forgiven? What lunacy. We are emboldening the enemy by our inaction. Just like Nam.

In Vietnam when we did not immediately blast Hanoi and Haiphong back into the stone age, the enemy knew they could fight a long war of attrition against US. The same exact thing goes on today in Iraq. We are playing the enemies game. War of attrition. Today 2 Marines kia and 5 more wounded, 4 Humvees blown up in Bagdad. In falluja 1 Marine KIA, 8 enemy KIA. This is losing just like Nam. In Nam, we routinely had ratio of 10 to 1 in out favor. We Lost. We won the battles and lost the War. Nam=Iraq.

The ratio that wins in the modern atomic age is 50,000 to one, like Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

Fallujah needs to be told that is 24 hours it will cease to exist. Get our or die. Then make it a hole.

Then you tell them Najaf is next. Watch what happens, only two possibilities, Najaf is evacuated or destroyed.

Fight like WW2 and Win or
Fight like Nam and lose

Time is not on our side. The WMDs are going to be used by the guerrillas soon, then what?
84 posted on 04/26/2004 6:03:08 PM PDT by TomasUSMC
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