Posted on 04/22/2004 1:43:00 PM PDT by FreepinforTerri
Terri Schiavo has not had visitors in 24 days. Terri has also been held prisoner in a single hospice room, unable to go outside for 1,473 days. Seeing those numbers really hit home with me. So I called Governor Bush. I said, "Terri Schiavo has not had visitors in 24 days. She's been imprisoned in her room for 1,473 days. She's a prisoner and she's in danger. Have the Governor or DCF take guardianship of her." Tomorrow I will call the Governor's office again and say, "Terri Schiavo has not had visitors in 25 days. She's been imprisoned in her room for 1,474 days. She's a prisoner and she's in danger. Have the Governor or DCF take guardianship of her." And so begins Project Annoying Empathy. Everyday I'm going to call the Governor's office and remind them how long Terri's been mistreated. I'll remind them that although they will allowed go outside today and they may see their loved ones, Terri will not. She's not a patient. She's a prisoner. She's in danger. She need the Governor's assistance to reclaim her rights as a human being. I am going to call them everyday. I've said my thank yous with all my heart to the Governor for Terri's Law, but there's a clause in that law for guardianship. He needs to use it. Who knows what stunts Michael might pull next. Any of you that want to join me, come on! The Governor's office number is 850-488-4441. Yes, this is a tad ridiculous, but so is allowing a disbled woman to be locked up like a criminal. It might not accomplish anything, but I can't just continue to do nothing. Maybe the numbers will strike a chord. Either way, it will remind the Governor's office daily that today is yet another day that Terri is being held hostage. <>< FreepinForTerri a.k.a Jacque From Texas
Terri symbolizes the terrible descent of morality going on in our society. The absolute devaluation of human life is now the norm, and we are marching towards a Godless, Fascist future if we don't stand up and say NO.
Terri represents all disabled human beings that for one reason or other, can't stick up for themselves. I got suckered into having a feeding tube inserted into my elderly mom several years ago. They lied to me, saying that they were worried about aspiration pneumonia. Being the dummy that I was, I agreed. Not only did they shirk their primary duty of getting her on her feet and walking after hip replacement surgery, they lied to me about other things too. I stayed with her every day, until I had to leave to pick my youngest kids up from school. I brought jars of #3 baby food, and spoon fed her. No problemo.
They called this "oral gratification", and if I EVER hear that term again I will be tempted to slap someone. A visiting therapist mistakingly had my mom brought to the soft feeding room, where she scarfed down a whole tray of fish, rice, and bread. The anger in the regular therapist's face told me to get her out of there. A Christian hospice sprung her late one evening soon after. That level of unprofessionalism was scary. She never had a problem eating anything that was put in front of her again. I should note that my mom had Alzheimer's and dementia, and was 82 when she passed away this September.
This is why I'm on Terri's side. She's younger than me for heaven's sake. I know God works miracles, and if He so chooses, he will work a miracle for Terri. This is exactly what Michael Schiavo is afraid of. I have had some experience in other aspects of this case, but that's my personal business.
You have your opinion, I have mine...
You are stating your opinion as if it is fact.
There is [in YOUR opinion] at least a equal probability that she asks God daily to take her home and out of her misery.
There IS in MY opinion ZERO probability that she EVER told Michael she wished to DIE rather than have a feeding tube.
Your clever phraseology is partly based on Michael's EXTREME CRUELTY at the moment, NOT based on evidence that the two of them really HAD discussions of feeding tubes before 1990. Terri will be happy again, and will laugh at her dad's jokes again, and will enjoy her family's visits again, as soon as the 'investigation' is over.
We each have our own opinions, so lets leave it at that. I'm not interested in arguing with you, or convincing you any more. Good day.
I don't want to argue either, and my opinion are my opinion.
But, "There is at least a equal probability that she asks God daily to take her home and out of her misery" is not an opinion. No one knows the inside of Terri. So it is absolutely the truth, and not opinion, that there is at least an even chance that she wants to die.
And that can't be argued with.
I read these threads every once in a while and while I'm reluctant to turn life and death decisions over to the court, truth is, the courts have always had to power to make life and death decisions. But that has always had to do with egregious criminal act, which Terri has not comitted.
When I read these threads I come away with an overall impression that Michael Shivaro is the main target and the situation with Terri is to deny him profit and gain in his carelessness or criminality.
If Mr. Shivaro has produced a signed notarized document stating Terri's wishes, no one would be having this discussion now. So the entire discussion turns on his culprability and credibility.
My basic position on Terri Shiavo is that, if she is to be killed, it should be quick. Starvation is cruel.
My second position is that we don't what Terri, herself, wants. All anybodys knows is what they would want if they were having the experience they imagine she is having.
My third position is that if Terri can eat, the feeding tubes should be removed and she is fed by hand orally. If this isn't possible the situation is more dire than many are willing to admit.
My forth position is that relativly recently, if Terri were to find herself unable to sustain life without intravenous feeding, she would have died already.
I feel sorry for Terri, and don't want her to die, if she doesn't want to, but want her to die if she does want to.
Further I saith not.
"Terri Schiavo . . . if she is to be killed, it should be quick." -- being totally absurd here, but I'm thinking maybe we should propose that if her husband and Felos are 'dead' serious (as indeed they are), maybe they should be send her to the electric chair in Starke, FL -- for as you point out, starvation is cruel.
"All anybody knows is what they would want if they were having the experience they imagine she is having." -- Right, and no one can know. Terri is not living the life she or her family dreamed of, but she is in a new reality now. But is Terri in her own private hell or 'psychic or emotional agony'? I believe if she were, we would know that -- her family and friends would know it and one or more of them would have said something.
I hope this makes sense. I usually refrain from posting when I'm so tired to protect myself, lol, and others.
Exodus 20:12 ~ "Honor your father and your mother, that your days may be long in the land which the Lord your God gives you."
Not applicable in a case of marriage. Terri's husband has no biblical mandate for honoring his relatives-in-law.
If the first passage is true then her parents would also be his parents making the second passage applicable to him.
If they are truly made one flesh then shouldn't they have to honor each others parents as their own?
Further I saith not.
Further you need not say. Here we have a woman who has suffered an injury in an unknown manner which renders communication extremely difficult for her, who has been deliberately denied assistance to communicate, and it is not the killing of her that disturbs you but just the manner in which she is to be dispatched. Say no more!
Not only that it doesn't work. They have tried to starve her twice and she refused to die. Her husband tried to let her die of an infection and that didn't work, she recovered without aid. If she's praying to die (which would be a prayer for suicide) she's not being answered. (Or her prayers are not sincere enough?)
I'm glad to know a time. I will join you.
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