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Mark Steyn: Only Bush can save Europe
The Spectator (U.K.) ^
| 04/24/04
| Mark Steyn
Posted on 04/22/2004 6:16:57 AM PDT by Pokey78
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To: Pokey78
I'm beginning to lean towards the "1945" approach myself. I think this method is the only method Islamists will understand; total and ultimate destruction.
My question is, what has happened to mainstream America that allowed this in 45' but won't in 04'? Have people really become this naive or is it just a baseless opinion that's presented to us by the media that believes it?
IMHO, if Bush wins this election cycle, he should pull out, and make the decision that would now be vilified, but throughout history would be seen as the only solution to a World dominated by terrorists. That solution should be nuclear.
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posted on
04/22/2004 8:37:06 AM PDT
by
TwoBear
(Go Big Orange!)
To: Pokey78
Thanks for the full post. Flag for later, full, lunchtime read...
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posted on
04/22/2004 8:39:54 AM PDT
by
eureka!
(The shrillness of the left is a good sign.....)
To: Savage Beast
If only there were some way to sidestep. To get the conservatives out of the way and set up a direct confrontation between the liberal/elite/corrupt/hedonists and the islamomonsters and have them eat each other up. That would be something to see.
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posted on
04/22/2004 8:49:12 AM PDT
by
johnb838
("I really don't care; they're all gonna die," US Marine in Fallujah)
To: Pokey78
Steyn should get a Pulitzer someday.
He's one of the best writers around.
To: texasbluebell
I guess I should qualify that by saying: a Pulitzer may not even worth anything considering some of the writers who get one.
To: texasbluebell
He will never get a Pulitzer. Those are now reserved for leftists.
To: BadAndy
This enrage the liberal weanies, but their rage won't last, peace will.The lefties will just find something else to rage on about.
If it's not one thing, it's another. Their work is never done.
Let them whine. At least we would have peace for a while.
To: Miss Marple
Oh, I know. It's so obviously biased.
Steyn should get something better than a Pulitzer, I should have said!
To: Pokey78
Nonetheless, the Prime Minister of Canada thought this was an excellent opportunity to demonstrate his deep personal commitment to diversity. Asked about the Khadrs return to Toronto, he said, I believe that once you are a Canadian citizen, you have the right to your own views and to disagree.Unless you are a Christian believer in the Bible...
To: Roscoe Karns; Pokey78
You posted the entire article!?? I wouldn't want to be in your shoes when America's Most Wanted gets wind of this! Ever since he removed that tag from a mattress he's had nothing to lose.
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posted on
04/22/2004 9:22:16 AM PDT
by
Slings and Arrows
("You guys must have had a big bowl of stupid this morning." --al baby)
To: Slings and Arrows
I was speaking with a co-worker the other day, about religion, abortion, the Catholic Church, Bush, etc. He firmly believes that what is beginning to happen now is God's punishment to the United States and Western Nations for embracing the culture of death. This came about when I mentioned that one of the things that scares me is that God not only punishes people for embracing evil but nations also. Did He not allow Israel to be consumed by its enemies because they turned away from Him? The evil is in front of us and gives us plenty of warnings. Steyn quotes the madman that blissfully states that non-believers are not worthy of living. People ignore that. Steyn states the fact that Islam wants to dominate and allows the madmen willing to kill move freely about them, hiding and plotting. I firmly believe that we cannot compromise with thsee people, that they must be thoroughly crushed. Yet, we have people like Kennedy, Hatch, and Specter calling for a Constitutional Amendment so that foreign born people can be elected President. It is very scary out there!
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posted on
04/22/2004 9:31:08 AM PDT
by
7thson
(I think it takes a big dog to weigh a hundred pounds!)
To: Slings and Arrows
I was speaking with a co-worker the other day, about religion, abortion, the Catholic Church, Bush, etc. He firmly believes that what is beginning to happen now is God's punishment to the United States and Western Nations for embracing the culture of death. This came about when I mentioned that one of the things that scares me is that God not only punishes people for embracing evil but nations also. Did He not allow Israel to be consumed by its enemies because they turned away from Him? The evil is in front of us and gives us plenty of warnings. Steyn quotes the madman that blissfully states that non-believers are not worthy of living. People ignore that. Steyn states the fact that Islam wants to dominate and allows the madmen willing to kill move freely about them, hiding and plotting. I firmly believe that we cannot compromise with thsee people, that they must be thoroughly crushed. Yet, we have people like Kennedy, Hatch, and Specter calling for a Constitutional Amendment so that foreign born people can be elected President. It is very scary out there!
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posted on
04/22/2004 9:31:11 AM PDT
by
7thson
(I think it takes a big dog to weigh a hundred pounds!)
To: Slings and Arrows
I was speaking with a co-worker the other day, about religion, abortion, the Catholic Church, Bush, etc. He firmly believes that what is beginning to happen now is God's punishment to the United States and Western Nations for embracing the culture of death. This came about when I mentioned that one of the things that scares me is that God not only punishes people for embracing evil but nations also. Did He not allow Israel to be consumed by its enemies because they turned away from Him? The evil is in front of us and gives us plenty of warnings. Steyn quotes the madman that blissfully states that non-believers are not worthy of living. People ignore that. Steyn states the fact that Islam wants to dominate and allows the madmen willing to kill move freely about them, hiding and plotting. I firmly believe that we cannot compromise with thsee people, that they must be thoroughly crushed. Yet, we have people like Kennedy, Hatch, and Specter calling for a Constitutional Amendment so that foreign born people can be elected President. It is very scary out there!
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posted on
04/22/2004 9:31:15 AM PDT
by
7thson
(I think it takes a big dog to weigh a hundred pounds!)
To: McGavin999
freightening forcast
Is that like a "pregnant" portent?
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posted on
04/22/2004 9:32:13 AM PDT
by
johnb838
("I really don't care; they're all gonna die," US Marine in Fallujah)
To: 7thson
Admin mod - can you please remove two of my three replies. I was having trouble posting and inadvertantly posted my reply three times. Thank you.
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posted on
04/22/2004 9:32:15 AM PDT
by
7thson
(I think it takes a big dog to weigh a hundred pounds!)
To: BadAndy
We will be better off for it and in the long run, so will the Islamo-scum wogs.
White man's burden bump.
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posted on
04/22/2004 9:34:35 AM PDT
by
johnb838
("I really don't care; they're all gonna die," US Marine in Fallujah)
To: TwoBear
My question is, what has happened to mainstream America that allowed this in 45' but won't in 04'?
^^^^
It partly is a question of numbers. In WWII every family had members fighting somewhere in the world. By 1944, fathers of 3 children were being drafted (mine), casualties were in the millions, deaths in the hundreds of thousands.
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posted on
04/22/2004 9:44:28 AM PDT
by
maica
To: TwoBear
No one was consulted in 45,the bomb was secret until it was used.
There were 295,000 US military deaths in WW2(we were lucky).Trust me..the majority of Americans were just happy for the war to end.The great self examination about dropping the bomb came later.
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posted on
04/22/2004 9:59:31 AM PDT
by
MEG33
(John Kerry's been AWOL for two decades on issues of National Security!)
To: Pokey78
Thanks, Pokey!
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posted on
04/22/2004 10:17:33 AM PDT
by
UnklGene
To: MEG33
Suppose a terrorist group detonated a nuke over an American city - killing 200,000 - who do we nuke? Do we take out Pakistan, Iran, and Syria? Medina and Mecca?
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posted on
04/22/2004 10:18:00 AM PDT
by
DHerion
(Who would we nuke if we lost NY)
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