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AK-47S WERE BOUND FOR VT.
New York Post ^ | 4/22/04 | MURRAY WEISS

Posted on 04/22/2004 1:51:15 AM PDT by kattracks

Edited on 05/26/2004 5:21:18 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

April 22, 2004 -- A Florida-based arms company is at the center of the international probe into a New York-bound ship seized in Italy while laden with thousands of Kalashnikov assault rifles, The Post has learned.

The AK-47s were apparently bound for Vermont.


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TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; US: Vermont
KEYWORDS: ak47; akm; bang; banglist; bice; cache; interdiction; kalashnikov
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61 posted on 04/22/2004 8:02:05 AM PDT by TigersEye (One nation under God ... or war!)
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To: texasbluebell
Yes and no.

They are legal firearms which can be sold in this country after the rear stock is replaced but the manifest wasn't correct.
62 posted on 04/22/2004 8:10:53 AM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (Vote a Straight Republican Ballot. Rid the country of dems.)
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To: Godebert
The "reporter" has a serious agenda going here.

And one that will escape almost all readers. The few who do notice it will have no effect as they cannot reach the attention of those that do not ( the paper will not run a correcting article).

63 posted on 04/22/2004 8:16:32 AM PDT by templar
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To: devane617
"they stated the port was VT, but the final destination was Georgia."

I'd sure like to stand back and watch that ship dock in Vermont. It must build up a hell of a head of steam crossing the Atlantic. ;~))

64 posted on 04/22/2004 8:18:53 AM PDT by Ditto ( No trees were killed in sending this message, but billions of electrons were inconvenienced.)
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To: Armedanddangerous
I still haven't figured out what a SKA rifle is?

A weapon to shoot alternative musicians?

LOL! I had the same thought.

Could it be the SKS?

Since "A" is to the immediate left of "S" on the QWERTY keyboard, a simple typo would be my guess. Only gun enthusiasts would notice, though.

65 posted on 04/22/2004 8:38:09 AM PDT by Charles Martel (Liberals are the crab grass in the lawn of life.)
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To: texasbluebell
Legal shipment?

Not after the photo I saw on Fox last night.

These weapons were piled up every which way, just thrown in some giant metal shipping container.

This was no legal shipment. From the way this looked in the photo, there was no attempt to keep them all nice and shiny for re-sale.

Shipments of military surplus firearms are frequently handled in this way. The importer is usually going to do some light refinishing is necessary - and the metal parts of the guns are usually coated with a thick corrosion-resistant goo.

Also, it's not at all clear that the addressee ordered *those* specific firearms - though part of the shipment looks legitimate enough. The SKS and Mauser rifles were all probably legit; and because of the less than orderly packing system used, the AK-47s in question might've been intended for a different purchaser. Alternatively, as another poster mentioned, the importer might've been anticipating a post-AW Ban reality and placed an order for the rifles with the "naughty" features, but the seller mixed up the orders and shipped that batch too early.

Let's see what the importer actually ordered, then compare that with the actual shipment.

I just don't see anything sinister here, aside from Carolyn McCarthy's political opportunism.

66 posted on 04/22/2004 8:55:42 AM PDT by Charles Martel (Liberals are the crab grass in the lawn of life.)
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To: Charles Martel
Ah, I missed entirely the part about Carolyn McCarthy. You may be onto something there.

Just another opportunity to trash our rights. Sure, I'd</FO on it.
67 posted on 04/22/2004 9:02:45 AM PDT by texasbluebell
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To: kattracks
No doubt bound from Vermont to Dearborn, Mi.. The greatest concentration of Muslims in the country.
68 posted on 04/22/2004 9:39:50 AM PDT by hosepipe
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To: kattracks
This is nothing to worry about. Our gun control laws would have kept these weapons out of the hands of terrorists and gang members.
69 posted on 04/22/2004 10:51:15 AM PDT by stoney
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To: kattracks
The startling seizure prompted Rep. Carolyn McCarthy (D-Nassau) to call for a renewal of the 1994 federal ban on assault weapons, which is slated to expire Sept. 13.

Because terrorists follow law, Mrs McCarthy...

70 posted on 04/22/2004 10:58:01 AM PDT by smith288 (Who would terrorists want for president? 60% say Kerry 25% say Bush... Who would you vote for?)
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To: kattracks
Officials have linked Century International Arms Inc. in Boca Raton...

This is the part that scares me.

Boca Raton is the area where the 9/11 terrorists lived while they learned how to fly. Boca Raton is where the first anthrax attack occured. Boca Raton is at the heart of the Gore election fiasco (from West Palm Beach down through Miami). The people of Boca Raton can't even vote straight.

I recall reading after 9/11 that the mayor of Boca Raton said that he wouldn't change anything about the friendly atmosphere of Boca Raton, even though the terrorists lived amongst them (I wish I could find a link to the story where he said this).

-PJ

71 posted on 04/22/2004 11:20:40 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too (It's not safe yet to vote Democrat.)
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To: dokmad
How will extending the ban keep such shipments out of this country? Criminals don't obey the law.
Although this logic is readily apparent to kindergarten students, it is hard for 'Rat legislators to grasp.
72 posted on 04/22/2004 11:39:59 AM PDT by macrahanish #1
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To: Bonesaw
"He's obviously not a gun fanatic, besides to the normal person there isnt much diff between clip mag and cartridge.

To the "normal person"? Where I come from you aren't a "normal person" if you don't know the difference between a cartridge and a magazine. That's like not knowing the difference between a chicken and an egg.

"Yes except they werent(WASR or SARs), these were ak 47's that they do not manufacture."

The article doesn't state the exact model....though the reporter does say that they are Romanian semi-automatic AK-47 style rifles. The Romanians manufacture a number of AK-47 clones for legal sale in the United States.

73 posted on 04/22/2004 1:54:20 PM PDT by Godebert
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To: em2vn
"What are you talking about? The article makes no reference to Colorado or to rounds. Are you making things up? I couldn't find any of this on the Post's site."

No.....I'm not making things up. You have me confused with the anti-gun NY Post reporter. If you'd read the entire thread you would have seen the link I provided to the NY Post article in my post #12.

74 posted on 04/22/2004 2:01:05 PM PDT by Godebert
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To: MARTIAL MONK
LOL
75 posted on 04/22/2004 2:04:08 PM PDT by Tribune7 (Vote Toomey -- appeasement doesn't work)
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To: Godebert
Yes I see. Any idea what a terrorist grade weapon is?
76 posted on 04/22/2004 2:10:17 PM PDT by em2vn
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To: jslade
Anybody remember that during the rapist/scum bag/perjuror's administration the 2,000 or so AK-47 (FULLY AUTOMATIC) that were confiscated in Los Angeles that one of bubba's chicom buddies was trying to smuggle in for LA street gangs?

I remember. I believe they were found in a container at the Port of Oakland. What I don't remember, though, is hearing much about it in the mainstream media.

77 posted on 04/22/2004 2:16:01 PM PDT by .38sw
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To: .38sw
Further research. Juang Jun (sp). Frequent White House guest and money raiser. Along with Charlie Trie and John Huang. Directly connected to chicom pa.
78 posted on 04/22/2004 4:07:19 PM PDT by jslade (<IPeople who are easily offended, OFFEND ME!)
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To: .30Carbine
It's the VLF! The Vermont Liberation Front. These 7,500 AKs were OBVIOUSLY bound for secret VLF Insurgents fighting for a regime change and to create the breakaway Republic of Killington, EVT (East Vermont). DO NOT LET THIS HAPPEN! Once they have their own republic, I understand they intend to annex the entire state of New Hampshire!

STOP THE VLF, NOW! Before they develop Ben & Jerry's Yogurt and other Weapons of Mass Destruction.
79 posted on 04/22/2004 6:16:56 PM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free
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To: dokmad
If this cache was caught, how many have slipped thru? We need to start profiling and weeding out potential terror cells here at home, and soon!

It wasn't a cache, it was clearly a perfectly legal shipment bound for well know importer. They torch cut the receivers of the AK's and use the barrel and some internals, along with a new receiver, to make the WASR 10 rifle mentioned in the story.

The entire point of this story is to whip up support for extending the so called "Assault Weapons" ban.

BTW, there is no such gun as an SKA, but there is an SKS, a typo in the original story that has propagated to this one. SKS stands for "Samozaridnya Karabina Simonova", Simonov being the gun's designer. It's a semiautomatic, fixed magazine rifle, no different (other than the provision for a bayonet) than any other semiautomatic century,rifle, other than being lower powered than most. The standard magazine holds 10 rounds, but 5 and 20 round versions are available as aftermarket modifications.

80 posted on 04/22/2004 9:26:31 PM PDT by El Gato (Federal Judges can twist the Constitution into anything.. Or so they think.)
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