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Kerry Sandbagged Into Releasing Bad Performance Report From Navy Service In Vietnam.
The Smoking Gun ^ | U.S. Navy

Posted on 04/21/2004 8:57:47 AM PDT by MindBender26

John Kerry has just released his "Officer's Fitness Report" from his service in Vietnam. Kerry officials, with no knowledge of military operations, think the report is laudatory. In reality, it is disasterous.

Back in the Vietnam days, officers’ ratings were vastly inflated. To even be considered for promotion or a better assignment, an officer needed top grades in all categories. For example, in his book Colin Powell described how a dispute between his wife and his division commander’s wife led to one mark in one category out of 14 being less than perfect, and how, until it was corrected by a general further up the chain of command, it would have stopped Powell at one star.

Back then, the verbal descriptions of an officer’s service were always laudatory, and virtually meaningless. Many raters used standard paragraphs to describe every subordinate from a future member of the Joint Chiefs to “Beatle Bailey with gold bars” in glowing terms.

The actual rating was effectively “coded” into the comparative section. There a Navy officer was rated in 16 categories such as “Loyalty,” Judgment,” “Courage,” Personal Behavior,” etc. Each officer would receive one of nine rankings, ranging from “Exceptional” to “One of the Top Few,” “Above the Majority,” down to “Unsatisfactory” in each of those 16 categories. Anything less than perfect in any of the 16 categories was a clear indication of an undesirable officer.

Remember, these rankings were highly inflated, with at least 60% of the officers having perfect rankings in all 16 categories. Most of the others would receive one ranking less than perfect in one category…. and their careers were effectively over.

Lt. Kerry received only 6 of 16 rankings in the highest category. The remaining marks for “Judgment” was one step down and 9 of the 16 other marks were two steps down. When ranking these Efficiency Reports arithmetically, when one “down point” could end a career, Kerry had 19 “down points.”

Is there any wonder why the Navy had no objection to his early return from Vietnam and his subsequent early removal from the service. They wanted him away from the guns, where he couldn’t hurt Americans.

The Kerry Clowns tell us their man is fit to run the military and protect us. They are proven wrong for at least three reasons:

1. Kerry’s prior anti-US statements shown to be lies.

2. Kerry’s poor military performance, as shown in this report released today.

3. The lack of the senior staff’s knowledge as to what this report really means, and how it further diminishes his campaign…. and his stature, such as it is.


TOPICS: Extended News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: fitnessreport; kerry; lurch; militaryrecord; militaryrecords
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To: Numbers Guy
I think the media interpretation will be the same as the smoking gun:

"The body count reference is included in a glowing 1969 Navy report that noted Kerry, a 25-year-old junior grade lieutenant"

Only a few places like here can you get the reality of the ratings and comments. Others will just read the comments and deem it "glowing".

141 posted on 04/21/2004 11:01:37 AM PDT by sox_the_cat
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To: PISANO
Only those who SERVED would know this to be a fact. The general public will NOT. The MEDIA/PRESS will NEVER take the TIME necessary to explain this so EXCEPTIONAL catagories and LAUDATORY narratives will be quoted and the nothing negative will come of this.

This is so true. My spouse and I are retired enlisted AF, and it worked the same way with us. If you didn't get almost all perfect scores of 9 (and then later, under the new system, perfect scores of 5), you were a goner.

You could survive one or two 8's if you were very young, but if you got more than a couple 8's, a single score of 7 or below, or the kiss of certain death, THE OVERALL 8, then you better pack your bags.

But to the uninitiated, those reports might look quite decent. Sevens and eights on paper looked good. I'll dig out one from the late 70's and see what the catagories were rated.

142 posted on 04/21/2004 11:02:22 AM PDT by T Minus Four
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To: MindBender26
For many a school administrator, their prime motto is Don't rock the boat

My first principal was an office principal. As a middle management worker, he always wanted to play it safe. He told me to never give my students any grade lower than S (Satisfactory). It did not matter that the 4th grade student could not read, refused to do his homework, or his deportment was horrible. He told me, Just give the kid all S's. After all it's satisfactory for him.

One time I saw a student's report cards and permanent records from a neighboring school district, before actually meeting him. Every single subject area was carefully marked S. I thought it strange. When I showed the report cards to an older teacher she said, Oh, oh - you must be getting a real doozy. She was right, he was a real doozy. He was so out-of-control he was assigned his own private lunch table, and he was not allowed to use the boys' bathroom (he used the one in the office). By the way, his father was a professor, in the early childhood development department and his mother was a sex therapist.

143 posted on 04/21/2004 11:07:49 AM PDT by Irish Queen
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To: kabar
Kohn Lehman (no date provided) who was Secretary of the Navy 5 Feb 1981 - 10 Apr 1987.

Would this be the SAME John Lehman, 9-11 Commissioner?

144 posted on 04/21/2004 11:17:01 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: kcvl
Yes... same guy.
145 posted on 04/21/2004 11:22:18 AM PDT by So Cal Rocket (Fabrizio Quattrocchi: "Adesso vi faccio vedere come muore un italiano")
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To: kabar
What is the guy's name who showed up at the Kerry campaign?
146 posted on 04/21/2004 11:28:21 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: kcvl
Yes, the same John Lehman who is on the 9/11 Commission.
147 posted on 04/21/2004 11:31:25 AM PDT by kabar
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To: So Cal Rocket; kcvl
Bunch of damned inside baseball.
148 posted on 04/21/2004 11:31:35 AM PDT by CyberCowboy777 (I am in school, studying and working 10-12 hours a day. So you might not get a response quickly.)
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To: HRoarke
I myself was stuck with a BM1 as a running mate..."Wake up Middie! It's time to launch some boats!" Sometimes I still hear "Set Condition 1A for welldeck operations" in my sleep.

Did they try to get you with that "BT punch" bravo sierra?

149 posted on 04/21/2004 11:38:26 AM PDT by Hemingway's Ghost (Spirit of '75)
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To: MindBender26; T Minus Four
But to the uninitiated, those reports might look quite decent.

From one of the uninitiated, why would the following remarks be written on Kerry's records if he was not fit for the job? I have to admit I have no understanding of military grading.

From post # 124 copy of official record:

LTJG Kerry was assigned to this divison for only a shor period of time but during that time he exhibited all the traits desired of an officer in a combat environment. He frequently exhibited a high sense of imagination and judgement in planning operations against the enemy in the Makong Delta. Involved in several enemy initiated fire fights, including an ambush during the Christmas truce, he effectively suppresed enemy fire and is unofficially credited with 20 enemy killed in action. Though relative new to the PCF he is thoroughly knowledgable of all aspects of his boat and PCF operations. He was instrumental in planning of highly successful Sea Lords Operation. He was cited for his performance during action against the enemy by Commander Task Force in his message 0808072 Jan 69.

150 posted on 04/21/2004 11:40:42 AM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: Pilsner
The new Captain (Queeg) is appalled, knowing that "outstanding" means an officer is adequate and an "above average" officer is a disaster.

When I worked for UPS, they rated the shipping hubs with the most work accidents “Least Best” in safety.

151 posted on 04/21/2004 11:52:36 AM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: MindBender26
No one... the press is hostile to the military and John F*ckin' was forgiven long ago for a war most Americans felt should never have been fought in the first place, since we never meant to win it. As for bad performance, its much ado about nothing. No one in the partisan media is going to make an issue of Kerry's character. He's getting a pass for stuff that would sink a Republican.
152 posted on 04/21/2004 11:54:33 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: TexKat; ThatsAllFolks2
I know that those comments sounded very laudatory, but I bet if you compared them to a firewall report, they'd pale.

I wrote several performance reports for people who worked for me that had mark-downs in the ratings, and nothing that sounded bad in the commentary, but ended up helping them out the door. It's all in the comparison.

Furthermore, I can hardly believe that the one paragraph is the complete narrative. Enlisted reports were longer than that.
153 posted on 04/21/2004 12:00:02 PM PDT by T Minus Four
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To: MindBender26
bump for later
154 posted on 04/21/2004 12:09:28 PM PDT by wisconsinconservative ("The penalty good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men.")
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To: goldstategop
Never meant to win it, for sure! Read "Dereliction of Duty" if you haven't already.
155 posted on 04/21/2004 12:10:53 PM PDT by jsraggmann
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To: T Minus Four
This was a bad OER. With this in his record, Kerry would not have been allowed to continue on active duty when the reductions in force, the infamous RIF's, began late in the war, regardless of his medals.
156 posted on 04/21/2004 12:14:44 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: Howlin
Who is the guy he/she was talking about meeting with the Kerry campaign mentioned in that?
157 posted on 04/21/2004 12:39:25 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: kcvl; Mo1
Remember Kerry's boatmate that just appeared out of nowhere at that campaign stop?

Mabye this guy?

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1066504/posts

Be sure to read Mo's #42 on that thread!
158 posted on 04/21/2004 12:45:18 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Howlin
Rassmann was so impressed by Kerry in the March 13, 1969, rescue that he nominated Kerry for the Silver Star, and was disappointed when the Navy awarded the Bronze Star with a "V" for valor.

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Rassmann called Kerry's headquarters last week from his home on the Oregon Coast after reading an account of the rescue in "Tour of Duty" by Douglas Brinkley. Rassmann had been visiting his mother in Glendale, Calif., when he went to a book store to buy a CD of operatic arias transcribed for violin. At the cash register, he saw a stack of books with Kerry's picture.


"I opened it to the darned page," describing the rescue, said the 56-year-old Rassmann. "I nearly started crying in the store. I showed it to my wife. I couldn't believe it. We both shook our heads."


Based on Kerry's recollections, "Tour of Duty" says Rassmann was on another boat, but Rassmann recalls sitting in the hatchway of Kerry's pilothouse, returning from a patrol with ethnic Chinese mercenaries, when a mine blew up under one of the other boats and the riverbanks erupted in gunfire. The medal citation is not clear.


"It was a long time ago," Rassmann said of the discrepency.

*****

According to Kerry's own website...


Among those campaigning with him were Kennedy, Kerry's two daughters, Vanessa and Alexandra, and crew members from the Navy swift boat he captained during Vietnam. On Saturday, Kerry staged an emotional reunion with Jim Rassmann, a serviceman he rescued during the war 35 years ago, and Rassmann joined Kerry on the trail.
159 posted on 04/21/2004 1:04:37 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: Howlin
Not exactly. LeHane was fired because Kerry was ranking below Kucinich in the early going - or so it seemed.
160 posted on 04/21/2004 1:05:52 PM PDT by Endeavor (Don't count your Hatch before it chickens)
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