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USS Florida Continues SSGN Transformation with New CO
Navy NewsStand ^ | 4/16/2004 3:44:00 PM | Chief Journalist (SW/AW) Mark O. Piggott, Commander, Submarine Force, U.S. Atl. Fleet Public Affairs

Posted on 04/20/2004 10:56:27 AM PDT by BykrBayb

Story Number: NNS040416-20 Release Date: 4/16/2004 3:44:00 PM

By Chief Journalist (SW/AW) Mark O. Piggott, Commander, Submarine Force, U.S. Atlantic Fleet Public Affairs

PORTSMOUTH, Va. (NNS) -- Cmdr. Gregory M. Ott relieved Cmdr. David M. Duryea as commanding officer, USS Florida (SSGN 728), April 16 at Norfolk Naval Shipyard.

This was another milestone in Florida’s transformation from ballistic missile submarine to guided-missile submarine.

“Historic Norfolk Naval Shipyard is the nation’s first public shipyard, and no stranger to naval transformation,” said Vice Adm. Kirkland H. Donald, commander, Naval Submarine Forces. “It has been no easy task (for Duryea) taking Florida from her role as an SSBN, combining crews, accomplishing the first launch of a Tomahawk cruise missile from an Ohio-class submarine missile tube, completing the Chief of Naval Operations' first Sea Trial Experiment, ‘Giant Shadow,’ and bringing his submarine into the shipyard for a re-fueling overhaul and conversion,” Donald continued.

“But through his keen tactical expertise, astute leadership, unwavering standards and personal concern for the crew, Dave was worthy of the task, and this magnificent crew rose to the challenge.”

Florida entered Norfolk Naval Shipyard in July 2003 to undergo a refueling and conversion from an SSBN to an SSGN. A transformational submarine, both physically and conceptually, SSGNs could operate in otherwise inaccessible areas to provide unique capabilities.

This includes carrying up to 154 cruise missiles that can be launched in rapid succession, 66 Special Operations Forces (SOF) personnel, a swimmer lock-out shelter, and an Advanced SEAL Delivery System (ASDS). These features would provide a transformational degree of firepower in a survivable and virtually undetectable platform that can remain on station indefinitely.

“Greg, I envy you for your opportunity to take her to sea as an SSGN,” Duryea said. “You are the perfect guy for this assignment, and I wish you all the best.”

A native of Wakefield, N.J., Ott joined the Navy in 1985 after graduating from Lehigh University with a Bachelor of Science Degree in Mechanical Engineering. His previous commands include USS Francis Scott Key (SSBN 657), USS Providence (SSN 719) and USS Charlotte (SSN 766), where he served as the submarine’s executive officer.

Ott knows the road ahead for Florida and her crew is filled with new challenges for the future. “The engineers and submarine designers are breathing new life into Florida, and giving us a brand new kind of ship--the SSGN,” Ott said.

“It’s up to us to plot the course for how we will use this new capability," Ott said. "It’s up to us to develop and implement the routine for taking Florida to sea.”

Florida is scheduled to complete her conversion and rejoin the fleet in 2006.

For related news, visit the Commander, Submarine Force, U.S. Atlantic Fleet Navy NewsStand page at www.news.navy.mil/local/sublant.


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KEYWORDS: asds; ballisticmissilesub; guidedmissilesub; navalsubmarineforces; norfolknavalshipyard; ssbn657; ssbn728; ssgn728; ssn719; ssn766; submarineforce; usatlanticfleet; usscharlotte; ussflorida; ussfrancisscottkey; ussprovidence
030606-N-0000X-005 Washington, D.C. (Jun. 6, 2003) -- Artist concept of the SSGN conversion program. Four Ohio-class strategic missile submarines USS Ohio (SSBN 726), USS Michigan (SSBN 727) USS Florida (SSBN 728), and USS Georgia (SSBN 729) have been selected for transformation into a new platform, designated SSGN or Tactical Trident. The SSGNs will have the capability to support and launch up to 154 Tomahawk missiles, a significant increase in capacity as compared to other platforms. The 22 missile tubes will also provide the capability to carry other payloads, such as unmanned underwater vehicles (UUVs), unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs) and special forces equipment. This new platform will also have the capability to carry and support more than 66 Navy SEALs (Sea, Air and Land) and insert them clandestinely into potential conflict areas. U.S. Navy graphic. (RELEASED)

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030116-N-XXXXX-001 At sea with USS Florida (SSBN 728) Jan. 16, 2003 -- USS Florida launches a Tomahawk cruise missile during Giant Shadow in the waters off the coast of the Bahamas. Giant Shadow is a Naval Sea Systems Command (NAVSEA)/Naval Submarine Forces experiment to test the capabilities of the Navy’s future guided missile submarines. Florida is one of four Ohio-class ballistic missile submarines (SSBN) being converted to guided missile submarines (SSGN). Giant Shadow is the first experiment under the “Sea Trial” initiative of the Chief of Naval Operations’ Sea Power 21 vision and the first in a series of experiments before converting and overhauling the four SSBNs to SSGNs. The SSGNs will have the capability to support and launch up to 154 Tomahawk missiles, a significant increase in capacity as compared to other platforms. U.S. Navy photo. (RELEASED)

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030114-N-XXXXX-001 At sea with USS Florida (SSBN 728) Jan. 14, 2003 -- USS Florida launches a Tomahawk cruise missile during Giant Shadow in the waters off the coast of the Bahamas. Giant Shadow is a Naval Sea Systems Command (NAVSEA)/Naval Submarine Forces experiment to test the capabilities of the Navy’s future guided-missile submarines. Florida is one of four Ohio-class ballistic missile submarines (SSBN) being converted to guided missile submarines (SSGN). Giant Shadow is the first experiment under the “Sea Trial” initiative of the Chief of Naval Operations’ Sea Power 21 vision and the first in a series of experiments before converting and overhauling the four SSBNs to SSGNs. The SSGNs will have the capability to support and launch up to 154 Tomahawk missiles, a significant increase in capacity as compared to other platforms. U.S. Navy photo. (RELEASED)

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030122-N-6208N-005 At sea with USS Florida (SSGN 728) Jan. 22, 2003 -- USS Florida sails off the coast of the Bahamas during "Giant Shadow." Giant Shadow is a Naval Sea Systems Command/Naval Submarine Forces experiment to test the capabilities of the Navy's future guided-missile submarines. Florida is one of four Ohio-class ballistic missile submarines (SSBN) to be converted to guided missile submarines (SSGN). Giant Shadow is the first experiment under the "Sea Trial" initiative of the Chief of Naval Operations' Sea Power 21 vision and the first in a series of experiments before converting and overhauling the four SSBNs to SSGNs. U.S. Navy photo by Chief Journalist David Nagle. (RELEASED)

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021219-N-2903K-001 Norfolk, Va. (Dec. 19, 2002) -- USS Florida (SSBN 728) makes its way to its new homeport at Naval Station Norfolk. Florida is one of four Ohio-class submarines on the list to be converted to conventional-weapon (SSGN) submarines. U.S. Navy photo by Journalist 3rd Class B.L. Keller. (RELEASED)

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021219-N-2903K-002 Norfolk, Va. (Dec. 19, 2002) -- USS Florida (SSBN 728) makes its way to its new homeport at Naval Station Norfolk. Florida is one of four Ohio-class submarines on the list to be converted to conventional-weapons. U.S. Navy photo by Journalist 3rd Class B.L. Keller. (RELEASED)

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970508-N-0001D-001 OAHU, Hawaii (May 8, 1997) -- Crewmembers aboard the ballistic missile submarine USS Florida (SSBN 728) prepare to cast-off from the fleet tug boat USS Aukele (YTB 814) near the coast of Oahu, Hawaii. U.S. Navy photo by Photographer's Mate 3rd Class Diamond. (RELEASED)

1 posted on 04/20/2004 10:56:29 AM PDT by BykrBayb
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To: BykrBayb
So are they getting rid of the original large Trident tubes and putting in a bunch of VLS Tomahawk tubes? I have to admit that the ability to launch a sizeable portion of our nations Tomahawk stockpile from a single vessel makes for a fearsome weapon at our disposal.
2 posted on 04/20/2004 11:32:06 AM PDT by EricT. (Californian by birth, Tennessean by choice.)
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To: EricT.
"I have to admit that the ability to launch a sizeable portion of our nations Tomahawk stockpile from a single vessel makes for a fearsome weapon at our disposal."

I suspect that the Tomahawk capacity of the Florida is no longer "...a sizeable portion of our nations Tomahawk stockpile...". I'm sure production has been ramped up since Clinton shot most of the stockpile at the aspirin factory.

3 posted on 04/20/2004 12:17:00 PM PDT by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel)
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To: EricT.
So are they getting rid of the original large Trident tubes and putting in a bunch of VLS Tomahawk tubes?

Yes, that is exactly what they are doing. The Navy had been developing a concept called the "Arsenal Ship" -- essentially a very heavily armed missile ship for land attack. One concept involved a container ship, where the missile containers would be attached to the deck. The objection to this approach was that such a ship would make a very large, high-value target. When the end of the Cold War made several SSBN's 'surplus', somebody got the bright idea to convert the Trident Tubes into a series of Vertical Launch Systems. The SSGN "Florida" is essentially a stealthy, underwater version of the Arsenal Ship -- and a SEAL platform to boot.

4 posted on 04/20/2004 12:34:46 PM PDT by Tallguy (Cannot rate this Reserve Freepers fitness: Not observed on this thread.)
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To: BykrBayb
I know it's just an artist's rendition but I find it pretty funny how he drew the sub 2000 yards offshore in like 65ft of water.

I think the SSGN is a very good idea. Much better (and cheaper) than the arsenal ship.
5 posted on 04/20/2004 12:50:46 PM PDT by jjm2111
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To: Tallguy
I love seeing my tax dollars at work like THAT!! Awesome..
6 posted on 04/20/2004 12:56:01 PM PDT by Crapgame
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To: Wonder Warthog
I'm sure we have quite a few more than before, but 154 ain't chicken feed.
7 posted on 04/20/2004 3:04:37 PM PDT by EricT. (Californian by birth, Tennessean by choice.)
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To: Tallguy
Now I'm curious as to how many VLS tubes they plan on installing. Me thinks that "Sherwood Forest" is going to be quite a bit thicker. This is one of the best ideas for submarine use I've heard in a long time. The only other use for one of those huge boats, if not carting around our nuclear big stick, is to somehow refit the big tubes to carry and release a small boat and 3-4 men per tube. That would give us the ability to silently put a company of men on a target anywhere touching the ocean. I don't know how feasable that would be. Might just be the ridiculous ravings of an old non-qual Tender sailor.
8 posted on 04/20/2004 3:16:10 PM PDT by EricT. (Californian by birth, Tennessean by choice.)
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To: jjm2111
You've never been in the gulf of Mexico off Clearwater, FL. have you. The gulf can be very shallow far out from shore. 65ft. @ 2000 yards, no problem.
9 posted on 04/20/2004 3:32:14 PM PDT by AFreeBird (your mileage may vary)
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To: BykrBayb

Continuing a proud tradition.

10 posted on 04/20/2004 3:38:54 PM PDT by aomagrat ("Where weapons are not allowed, it is best to carry weapons.")
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To: Tallguy
We are also building the DD-21 Zumwalts. These new destroyers should have at least 128 VLS tubes, most of which will hold cruise missles.
11 posted on 04/20/2004 4:37:34 PM PDT by rmlew (Peaceniks and isolationists are objectively pro-Terrorist)
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To: jjm2111
Only do-able within the budget because of President Bush's renouncing START III. Otherwise the missile tubes whould have had to have been cut out and the conversion cost would have been astonomical. This is why he did it.
12 posted on 04/20/2004 6:43:06 PM PDT by Growler
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To: BykrBayb
SSGN, eh? As usual, it appears that everything old is new again. The original four SSG and one SSGN submarines - USS Tunny (SSG 282), USS Barbero (SSG 317), USS Grayback (SSG 574), USS Growler (SSG 577) and USS Halibut (SSGN 587) made the first nuclear deterrent patrols. They each had a giant hatch in front, and when it came time to fire the nuclear Regulus missile, they would surface, open the hatch, and the Regulus would fly. The missile would be directed through the midpoint of its flight by the USS Triton (SSRN 586), the only US submarine ever built with two reactors. As the missile neared its target, control would be taken over by one of the stealthy attack submarines of the Skipjack class, USS Skipjack (SSN 585), USS Scamp (SSN588), USS Scorpion (SSN 589, lost at sea May 21 1968), USS Sculpin (SSN 590), USS Shark (SSN 591), and my USS Snook (SSN 592). When I came on board the Snook in 1971, the Training Aid Booklet that we used to learn the systems (so we could become qualified in submarines) still called the Radio Room the "Missile Room," reflecting the fact that it was used to guide the Regulus in to its final destination. This story is not told on any website that I've ever seen. Maybe one of the books written about it has the full account of the Regulus program.

At Sub Base Pearl Harbor there is a building that contains memorabilia from all of the US submarines that didn't return from patrol during WWII. Outside that building is a Japanese Shaitan manned torpedo, the top part of a Japanese submarine, a Regulus missile, and the plaques from every submarine involved in the Regulus program. Or at least they were there in 1976. All of those subs had defiant sayings on their plaques. I remember that one of them was "Illegitimi Non Carborundum," which of course is "Don't let the bastards wear you down." My own submarine, the Snook, had the motto of "Festina Lente," which in Latin was "Make Haste Slowly," or, as usual in the military, "Hurry Up and Wait."

Being a submariner was usually an unmitigated pain in the butt. And Lord help me, I do miss it so desperately.
13 posted on 04/21/2004 2:43:01 AM PDT by Tarantulas
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To: AFreeBird
I have. I didn't mean that those conditions didn't exist; of course they do. The impression that seemed silly was that it was a drawing that would never happen in the real world.
14 posted on 04/21/2004 3:35:27 AM PDT by jjm2111
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To: Tarantulas
I know how you feel, I decommed the Shark SSN591 in 1990, and till the day we were decommed the "Missle Room" Bulkhead tag stayed above the Radio Room door!
15 posted on 04/21/2004 5:31:40 AM PDT by Bottom_Gun (Crush depth dummy)
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To: EricT.
So are they getting rid of the original large Trident tubes and putting in a bunch of VLS Tomahawk tubes,

the original tubes are staying..22 of them will have 7 specially designed VLS launchers inserted into them..the other 2 tubes will be for SEAL "toys"...and we all know how those guys like their "party favors" *L*
16 posted on 04/21/2004 5:39:13 AM PDT by Bottom_Gun (Crush depth dummy)
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To: Tarantulas
This is why I post these articles. I love reading the memories of former submariners. Especially the knowledgable ones. Yours is one of the most informative and enjoyable reads I've seen. Thanks for sharing.
17 posted on 04/21/2004 2:40:29 PM PDT by BykrBayb (5 minutes of prayer for Terri, every day at 11 a.m. EDT, until she's safe.)
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To: Tallguy
It will be even more interesting with the next generation of cruise missiles: HyFly will flight-test a missile able to cruise at speeds of up to Mach 6 to a range of 600 nautical miles.
18 posted on 04/21/2004 2:52:26 PM PDT by SauronOfMordor (That which does not kill me had better be able to run away damn fast.)
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