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GORELICK-GATE SCANDAL -- Former Clinton Justice Official Fingered As Culprit For 9/11 Botch-up! ^

Posted on 04/18/2004 4:32:09 PM PDT by BurkesLaw

The Gorelick memo, issued under the authority of the Justice Department in 1995, was blamed by Attorney General John Ashcroft on Tuesday for hampering the ability of the FBI and CIA to cooperate in terrorist investigations.

Other aspects of Gorelick's tenure suggest more conflicts, such as questions about what role, if any, she played in advising President Clinton that there was no legal basis to extradite Osama bin Laden to the U.S. when he was offered by Sudan [to the U.S.] in 1996.....

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 911commission; clintonlegacy; gorelick; gorelickmemo; hypocrites; liars; traitors; whatisis; x42
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To: boxerblues; All
Or you can call the 9/11 commission at 202-331-4060 and voice your opinion on this matter
21 posted on 04/18/2004 7:22:16 PM PDT by peter the great
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To: japaneseghost
She was with Carter (including at DOE) when
he made illegal financial demands on the Shah of Iran
which he refused and then directly led to Iranian terror takeover
and Islamic terrorism.

22 posted on 04/18/2004 7:39:00 PM PDT by Diogenesis (We do what we are meant to do)
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To: BurkesLaw
OK, gotta point out that we have "Gore-lick", "Clinton" and "Fingered" in the same title.
23 posted on 04/18/2004 8:38:50 PM PDT by manic4organic (An organic conservative)
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To: Diogenesis
24 posted on 04/18/2004 8:40:53 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: japaneseghost; Diogenesis; kcvl
I've had a related line of thought. On another thread (FReeper Research: GORELICK WORKED WITH RICHARD CLARKE! (HHS website transcript), Post 90) I was commenting on the fact that while Gorelick was with Carter's DOE, she became legal counsel to John Deutch, the future Clinton CIA Director suspected of espionage. That got me thinking, and I voiced the following thoughts aloud:

Looking through her [Gorelick's] bio and comparing it with other espionage cases, my guess is she got "recruited" while at Harvard Law School and someone there got her placed in Carter's Department of Energy, where she was when she became Deutch's legal counsel. I think maybe some digging into Carter's Department of Energy and any personnel overlaps with the Clinton administration might shed some light. If I may think out loud a bit: About the time Gorelick came into Carter's DoE, Carter replaced Sec. Energy James Schlesinger with one Charles Duncan, Jr. This change at DoE was probably not coincidentally about the time of the Iran Hostage Crisis when there was a big policy conflict between Carter advisors who supported the Shah, led by Zbigniew Brzezinski, and policy advisors who opposed the Shah and supported normalizing relations with the Ayatollah's new regime, led by Cyrus Vance. Vance's deputy at that time was Warren Christopher, Clinton's future Secretary of State; Carter's ambassador to Iran William Sullivan was also among the pro-Ayatollah faction; and meanwhile while this is going on at State, Gorelick joins DoE in 1979 as Assistant to the Secretary and counselor to the Deputy Secretary of Energy--hmmm. . .I'm not sure what it is yet, but there's gotta be something to that. . .

25 posted on 04/18/2004 8:43:37 PM PDT by Fedora
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To: manic4organic
Ow! I call TMI on your post!!!
26 posted on 04/18/2004 8:54:54 PM PDT by thulldud (It's bad luck to be superstitious.)
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To: AGreatPer; japaneseghost
This should be the headline in every newspaper in America today. Opps, the story is not even there. Wonder why?

Conservatives DO own/control enough newspapers that, given a reasonable cause which this is, and if they wanted to, they could hammer it enough to make the Wash Post, NY Times, LA Times etc. etc. look really bad and stupid for their silence. I'd suggest that we all call the Wash Times, NY Post etc. and ask that they do this.

27 posted on 04/18/2004 8:59:07 PM PDT by judywillow
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To: Mrs Zip
28 posted on 04/18/2004 9:31:21 PM PDT by zip (Monthly donations are the easiest way to say Thanks for FR)
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To: Diogenesis
THANKS for that post.

We need to do some follow-up research.

Does anybody remember when/who someone from AQ stated that they had a very high US gov. official, formerly in the Pentagon, on their side?
29 posted on 04/19/2004 5:14:16 PM PDT by japaneseghost
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To: japaneseghost; stand watie; Viking2002
Persian Princess bump...
30 posted on 04/19/2004 7:29:05 PM PDT by japaneseghost
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To: BurkesLaw
31 posted on 04/19/2004 7:33:45 PM PDT by FreeAtlanta (never surrender, this is for the kids)
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To: Ophiucus
How about giving the whole pathetic commission the boot.

Yes! I don't think Gorelick is going anywhere unless the rest of the commissioners work together to force her out. Instead, they are closing ranks behind her! So she stays and the entire work of the commission is tainted. Of course Kerrey and Ben Veniste and Kean are doing a good job of that too. How much is this circus costing us?
32 posted on 04/19/2004 7:35:24 PM PDT by Rummyfan
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To: BurkesLaw
this Wall business needs it IMHO, is the potential for a piece of the Federal Government disappearing silently into somebody's pocket somewhere without the usual Federal checks and balances to provide oversight. I want to know just exactly WHO is it that wrote the pieces of her Wall that were implemented, and the exact, written and supported reasons for them
33 posted on 04/19/2004 7:37:25 PM PDT by mo
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To: A CA Guy
Man, I would love to see President Bush hold a press conference and state that the commission is hopelessly lost and then go into the Gorelick scandal!!!!!!

Please Mr. President, if you or anyone on your staff read FreeRepublic, please do this for us. I beg you! It will crush the left-wing for a long long time. I know it will.

34 posted on 04/19/2004 7:38:24 PM PDT by FreeAtlanta (never surrender, this is for the kids)
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To: japaneseghost
I have not been watching the hearings, but can someone post a picture of Gorelick? Gorelick, what a horrible graphically descriptive name. I'm just amazed by how much crazier the world gets every day.
35 posted on 04/19/2004 7:39:53 PM PDT by TBall
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To: FreeAtlanta
If I were the President, I would express concerns that there are people that should have been part of the focus of the commission actually serving on the commission, and that it seems to screw up the whole purpose the commission had to begin with.
36 posted on 04/19/2004 8:08:56 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: Fedora
Thanks for the research post. We need more of this.
37 posted on 04/19/2004 8:49:27 PM PDT by japaneseghost
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To: TBall
She was really quite pretty when she was young.

But she doesn't look Jewish, she looks Persian, to me.
38 posted on 04/19/2004 8:57:09 PM PDT by japaneseghost
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To: japaneseghost
Thanks for the research post. We need more of this.

You're welcome, and thank you for your own research and observations. I am currently looking more into it and trying to put some pieces together.

To share my own line of thought FWIW: Putting Gorelick's background in the context of the Carter DoE and looking at the Carter administration's opposition to the Shah in terms of motive, my hunch is that someone in the anti-Shah faction of the Carter administration had to be working for foreign oil interests against American oil interests (the Rockefeller-centered American oil lobby was pro-Shah and lined up with Zbigniew Brzezinski against Cyrus Vance and William Sullivan's anti-Shah policy--details on this in Kai Bird, The Chairman: John J. McCloy the Making of the American Establishment, Chapter 28). Who were they working for, then? My best guesses are possibly either Saudi Arabia/OPEC (in light of the OPEC oil embargo of the early 70s) and/or the USSR (the Soviets of course encouraged Egypt/Syria and OPEC against the US), which leads me to wonder if Armand Hammer and Occidental Petroleum figure in there somewhere (Hammer having oil ties to OPEC member Libya as well as Russia). A related clue I'm trying to fit into the big picture is that Cyrus Vance, who led the anti-Shah faction in the Carter administration, was a nephew of John W. Davis (cf. William H. Harbaugh, Lawyers Lawyer: The Life of John W. Davis), a major Washington lawyer who was a leading figure in the Democratic Party for decades; and during the LBJ administration Vance had also been a political ally of W. Averell Harriman (on this see, Walter Isaacson and Evan Thomas, The Wise Men: Six Friends and the World They Made, 707-708), a long-time Russophile who had done business with Hammer in Russia. Here is some information from Harriman's biography:

Rudy Abramson, Spanning the Century: The Life of W. Averell Harriman, 1891-1986

P. 150: During two weeks of discussions between Robinson and Russian bureaucrats in an old palace that had once belonged to a Russian merchant, Harriman called on Western diplomats and dined with Armand Hammer at the mansion where the Soviets had ensconced their favorite concessionaire. Hammer was one foreigner who was propering mightily in the USSR, taking advantage of his father's personal friendship with Lenin. His first concession had been an asbestos mining operation similar to Averell's manganese enterprise, and it had been a bust. After bailing out of it, Hammer had pursued several other ventures. . .

P. 161-163: Scarcely more than a year after his own Moscow negotiations, [Harriman] realized that it was impossible to do business in the Soviet Union. He served notice on the Soviet government, demanding arbitration and cancellation of the contract. . .but Harriman did not join in a public effort to embarrass the Soviets as he had suggested to his German associates. Among the purchasers of the discounted Soviet bonds was Armand Hammer, who, nearing the end of his long stay in the Soviet Union, had established a small banking operation in Paris.

After Stalin's death, Hammer and Harriman led attempts to reopen US-Soviet trade ties, as meanwhile Hammer developed his ties with Libya. My hunch is that there was some deep connection between Hammer, Harriman, and Carter's anti-Shah policy, and if so it would've had to connect at some point with Cyrus Vance and William Sullivan. How/if Gorelick fits into this I'm not sure, but that's the angle I'm approaching it from, FWIW.

39 posted on 04/20/2004 1:56:36 AM PDT by Fedora
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Ping on #2, 22, 25, 39.
40 posted on 04/20/2004 2:09:41 AM PDT by Fedora
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