Moderator -- I thought this should be Breaking News because it is published under Gorelick's own byline.
She seems to be saying that the Wall is based on a law that permits US-based surveillance against foreign pargets if the primary purpose is foreign intelligence and not criminal prosecution. In other words, for the prevention of future terrorist attacks. Amazingly, she writes that her memo directed agents to share information, not to restrict its use! She also says (I didn't include this portion in the excerpt) that her memo was superceded by Janet Reno's memo in July 1995 that put even tighter controls on uses of intelligence (she doesn't say whether she worked on that memorandum as well).
Finally, as much as I can understand her point, she seems to be admitting that the Patriot Act extended the usage of this intelligence in obtaining foreign intelligence.
This dispute about the meaning of the Wall, and its ramifications, forcefully points out why she should be testifying in front of the Commission about the government's efforts to fight terror (where she can give a spirited defense of what she meant by the memo), instead of sitting on the commission asking questions of the witnesses.
In addition, the Wall is only part of the problem. She is a litigation partner in Wilmer, Cutler & Pickering, and I have read secondary reports that allege that her firm's litigation department is representing a Saudi leader who is defending himself against a lawsuit filed by 9/11 families. If this is so, then in my opinion this conflict alone ethically should force her off of the Commission.
1 posted on
04/17/2004 11:07:16 PM PDT by
Piranha
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To: Piranha
pargets=targets
2 posted on
04/17/2004 11:08:14 PM PDT by
Piranha
To: Piranha
Washington Post allowing Gore-Lick to lie in her own defense.
3 posted on
04/17/2004 11:10:17 PM PDT by
My2Cents
("Well...there you go again.")
To: Piranha
She's on the run if she has resorted to op-ed her plight.
She'll be resigning soon.
4 posted on
04/17/2004 11:10:40 PM PDT by
Glenn
(The two keys to character: 1) Learn how to keep a secret. 2) ...)
To: Piranha
Send an email to the Commission. Jamie Gorelick MUST resign. The fact that she felt compelled to write an OP-ED for the Washington Post shows she is feeling the heat. Keep pouring it on!
National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States
301 7th Street, SW
Room 5125
Washington, DC 20407
Washington Office*
Tel: (202) 331-4060
Fax: (202) 296-5545
info@9-11Commission.gov New York Office
Tel: (212) 264-1505
Fax: (212) 264-1595
info@9-11Commission.gov
5 posted on
04/17/2004 11:10:51 PM PDT by
MNJohnnie
(Vote Bush 2004-We have the solutions, Kerry Democrats? Nothing but slogans)
To: Piranha
Even if everything she said was true... these are things that should be said by a WITNESS... not a Judge. She should not be in a judgement role on the commission. She must resign.
6 posted on
04/17/2004 11:12:06 PM PDT by
Betaille
("Show them no mercy, for none shall be shown to you")
To: Piranha
When I first saw the title of this thread I thought it was about Pink Floyd.
7 posted on
04/17/2004 11:12:25 PM PDT by
Alberta's Child
(Alberta -- the TRUE north strong and free.)
To: Piranha
She's on the offense. She was featured in a suck-up report on one of the nightly news shows this evening.
The problem isn't as much her lack of action--there are plenty who didn't do enough. The problem is that she's up there on the panel asking snide partisan questions of Bush Administration officials. If she was acting like someone trying to understand the underlying problems instead of acting like James Carville, then maybe people wouldn't be tearing into her right now. She has only herself to blame.
To: Piranha
It's not too late to get this woman off the commission and into the hot seat! Let's flood the officials with emails and phone calls demanding she resign or be forcibly removed.
Jamie Gorelick is impeding and obstructing justice much like "the wall" seemed to do. For the 9-11 victims and family she needs to be char-grilled. Then and only then can we find out the real reason behind her agenda.
To: Piranha
Total Spin!
This contradicts Ashcroft across the board. He really must have got to her.
Pop the popcorn. History is being written.
16 posted on
04/17/2004 11:21:56 PM PDT by
JoeSixPack1
(Kerry is a combat vet. But he fought for the wrong side.)
To: Piranha
Everthing about this woman oozes "FOH (Friend of Hillary) Incompetent Hack" right down to the stupid pantsuit and ridiculous pins on the lapel.
17 posted on
04/17/2004 11:23:20 PM PDT by
SkyPilot
To: Piranha
Me doth thinks the lady protest too much
18 posted on
04/17/2004 11:25:06 PM PDT by
fooman
(Get real with Kim Jung Mentally Ill about proliferation)
To: Piranha
The question that no person has asked is why she wrote the wall of separation and later made the wall even higher. She is and was a Clintonista and was running the Justice Department because Janet Reno was an incompetent.
If she wrote the wall it was at the behest of the Clintons.
The question is why did the Clintons want this?
23 posted on
04/17/2004 11:43:29 PM PDT by
cpdiii
(Oil Field Trash, Geologist, Pharmacist (REFUSE TO ATTEND A GUNFIGHT WITH A CAL. LESS THAN FORTY))
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New Democratic Talking Point, articulated today by Susan Estrogen on FOX News:
Susan insisted that Republicans are unhappy with the Commission because it is revealing that President Bush lied to the country that Saddam was involved in 9/11 and therefore, misled us into an unnecessary war.
I don't even know where to begin on this one.
24 posted on
04/17/2004 11:45:09 PM PDT by
Spotsy
(Bush-Cheney '04)
To: Piranha
So, on what date will hillary ORDER Kerry to ORDER her to step down? Hilly has your FBI file babe.
26 posted on
04/17/2004 11:48:30 PM PDT by
Waco
To: Piranha
Come to think of it, why isn't there a commission investigating and reporting to the people WHY Hillar has so many FBI files? Very crimminal thing!
27 posted on
04/17/2004 11:50:49 PM PDT by
Waco
To: Piranha
Who cares? She's a Democrat and they always get a pass because Republicans are too wimpy to take them on.
28 posted on
04/17/2004 11:51:58 PM PDT by
Fledermaus
(Ðíé F£éðérmáú§ ^;;^ says, "John Kerry could bore a rock to erosion!")
To: Piranha
The "Wall Memo" was obviously instigated to provide protection for X42 also.
Remember when he had his henchmen destroy all the State Department records of his subversive activities in England and Europe during the late '60s and early '70s?
First thing X42 did upon inauguration was to have all the U.S. attourneys fired so any investigative work they had done on his own misbehavior would come to naught.
To: Piranha
The very fact that she has to defend herself so strenuously is ample proof that she ought to resign. No other member of the commission has been so intimately involved in executive branch decisions that impact the prosecution of our fight against terror. It's that simple. She has to go.
33 posted on
04/18/2004 12:08:52 AM PDT by
mcg1969
To: Piranha
"and, in particular, directed one agent to work on both the criminal and intelligence investigations"
How would ONE lone agent be able to handle the volume of crossover information? This would surely cause a bottleneck and overlooking of important details.
And who was this ONE agent, were they in on the particular things to be squelched and otherwise avoided?
This would appear to be a rather feckless, weak handling of this critical situation and she needs to be grilled on this particular point.
36 posted on
04/18/2004 12:20:09 AM PDT by
spoiler2
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IT'S NOT THE DAMN MEMO (which is bad enough on its own) - IT'S THE FACT SHE DECEIVED THE COMMISSION ABOUT IT - KEPT IT SECRET FROM THEM - AND EVEN WHEN EXPOSED, SHE DENIED SHE HAD ANYTHING TO DO WITH IT.
And .. her memo does not allow "freer" communication. It does the exact opposite and she knows it.
Shame on the Washington Post for allowing her to use them to COVER UP HER DECEIPTFUL ACTIONS.
37 posted on
04/18/2004 12:28:07 AM PDT by
CyberAnt
(The 2004 Election is for the SOUL of AMERICA)
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