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1 posted on 04/16/2004 5:18:12 PM PDT by Momaw Nadon
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To: Momaw Nadon
Perhaps it may work in an emergency gun take away situation. There are not to many of those.

But if the bad guys get the gun home, how long would it take for them to crack the digital signature by running all of the combinations and then build their own transmitter capable of firing the gun.

Probably not more than 2 hours.
2 posted on 04/16/2004 5:22:58 PM PDT by Pikachu_Dad
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To: Momaw Nadon
I would bet that less than 1% of cops would opt for this "breakthrough" if given the option.

But 100% of citizens in NJ will have no choice once its marketed. The law is already passed, waiting for the technology.

3 posted on 04/16/2004 5:23:17 PM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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No Chip in Arm, No Shot From Gun

I assumed the article was an investigative report on Kerry's Purple Hearts.

4 posted on 04/16/2004 5:26:08 PM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest
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To: Momaw Nadon
Wonderful! Awesome! BS!

And when the Windows (TM) operating system crashes just when you need to pull the trigger, a new meaning will come to the phrase "Blue Screen of DEATH".

I'll keep my 'dumb'guns.

5 posted on 04/16/2004 5:26:15 PM PDT by LibKill (Yep, we are cowboys. WYATT EARP cowboys.)
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It starts with the gun owners...

6 posted on 04/16/2004 5:29:07 PM PDT by aomagrat ("Where weapons are not allowed, it is best to carry weapons.")
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Click the Gadsden flag for pro-gun resources!
7 posted on 04/16/2004 5:29:27 PM PDT by Joe Brower (The Constitution defines Conservatism.)
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The only real change we've seen is to make them more lethal and smaller so they can be more easily concealed," said Rob Wilcox, a spokesman for the Brady Center to Prevent Gun Violence.

Uh, they were making smaller handguns in the 1870s than they are today.

8 posted on 04/16/2004 5:31:00 PM PDT by Inyo-Mono (Proud member of P.O.O.P., People Offended by Offended People.)
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To: Momaw Nadon
How long will it be before they want to put a chip in the brain to make sure that the shot was not fired out of racist or hateful thoughts?

-PJ

9 posted on 04/16/2004 5:31:05 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (It's not safe yet to vote Democrat.)
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The FBI estimated that 67 percent of the 16,204 murders in 2002 were committed with firearms.

And just how many of those where used when they were taken away from a cop? Hmmmm....

What a bunch of psycho babble propoganda.


11 posted on 04/16/2004 5:34:01 PM PDT by unixfox (Close the borders, problems solved!)
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We are at risk from what Churchill feared (IIRC):

"A new dark ages, made all the more sinister and prolonged by the terrible powers of science."

12 posted on 04/16/2004 5:38:33 PM PDT by BenLurkin
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The chip needs no battery or power source.

No, but the electronics in the gun do.

16 posted on 04/16/2004 5:47:03 PM PDT by Bob
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Great. I want to commit a crime, and knowing that all the local cops' guns are outfitted with this technology, I bring along a jammer that prevents the gun from communicating with the chip.

Since the guns can't communicate with the chips, they won't fire.

Who has the advantage here?

17 posted on 04/16/2004 5:49:12 PM PDT by Eala (Sacrificing tagline fame for... TRAD ANGLICAN RESOURCE PAGE: http://eala.freeservers.com/anglican)
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To: Momaw Nadon
Hmm. New industries...

Gun smiths will have a great boon installing chip readers into guns; any concealed carry state will try to push this through for 'safety' reasons. Chip reader installation will likely run $250 - $500, depending upon the firearm.

Doctor offices will likely get to install the chips. I'd imagine that all insurance companies will try not to cover the procedure, so expect installation of the chip running $250+

Government contracts for chip disruptors will be a great market - school districts will install them on all campuses (to disable civilian chips.) Metal detectors modified to check for chips would be a natural progression so that security can give extra scrutiny to those who 'might' be armed.

Police disruptors to disable chipped guns and civilian chips would be a natural tool to use before breaking down doors (or at the end of high speed chases.)

Black market disruptors would make bank robberies interesting -- you know all insurance carriers for businesses will be forced to require only chipped firearms for employees.

Recoding chips and readers would also be a boon to the black market, on the criminal and non-criminal sides. Gun clubs would like encourage members to encode all their chips to match so guns can be shared on the line.

I'd guess that we're talking close to $3 billion a year in chip related devices. A pretty good sized industry. Gee, just can't wait.
20 posted on 04/16/2004 6:09:47 PM PDT by kingu (Which would you bet on? Iraq and Afghanistan? Or Haiti and Kosovo?)
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No Chip in Arm, No Shot From Gun

From my cold, dead hands! Got it?

21 posted on 04/16/2004 6:11:42 PM PDT by Euro-American Scum (A poverty-stricken middle class must be a disarmed middle class)
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To: Momaw Nadon
UMMM how big a magnet would it take to stop the nice police officer from shooting his big bad gun?
23 posted on 04/16/2004 6:35:05 PM PDT by mlmr (Significant or Trivial)
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NO "chip" in arm is right! NEVER!
24 posted on 04/16/2004 6:40:10 PM PDT by Libertina
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And how long will it take the Lefties to legislate the confiscation of all "Dumb" weapons? I don't like the looks of this crap!
26 posted on 04/16/2004 6:47:17 PM PDT by 230FMJ (...from my cold, dead, fingers.)
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To: Momaw Nadon
what a crock of BS!

What happens if the users hand with the implant is unuseable?

28 posted on 04/16/2004 7:00:30 PM PDT by fso301
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To: Momaw Nadon
A chip reader at the door of every criminal enterprise would identify every cop, every time he walked in. This is beyond ignorant, and equally far beyond stupid. It is willful wrongdoing, and would be criminal if not for the special immunity given to gun-grabbers.
31 posted on 04/16/2004 7:18:02 PM PDT by MainFrame65
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To: Momaw Nadon
Like the AWB, I fully expect law enforcement to be (in violation of the 14th) to be exempt.

Nothing more needs to be said.
32 posted on 04/16/2004 7:21:28 PM PDT by Monty22
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