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LAW OF THE LAND (Will you wake up to Islamic prayer call?)
World Net Daily ^ | April 15, 2004

Posted on 04/16/2004 12:52:31 PM PDT by Iron Matron

Posted: April 15, 2004 1:00 a.m. Eastern

© 2004 WorldNetDaily.com

A holy war of sorts is heating up in a Detroit suburb, where members of the local Muslim community want loudspeakers on mosques to announce the Islamic call to prayer five times each day.

But the idea is running into opposition from other residents of Hamtramck, Mich., many of whom are Christian, who think the prayer calls as early as 6 a.m. and as late as 10 p.m. would be disruptive.

"When you call to prayer, you are proselytizing, and as a citizen of the United States I don't want to hear it," Bob Golen, 68, told the Detroit Free Press.

"It is not my God. My God is Jesus Christ," Caroline Zarski, 81, said. "I don't want this noise invading my home at 10 p.m."

The Al-Islah Islamic Center asked the city three months ago to alter its noise ordinance to allow the calls to prayer. In February, the council reportedly supported the change but sought a public hearing before making any change.

"We don't want to make it a big deal," said businessman Abdul Algazali, according to the Free Press. "It's a low-pitched voice. It's not going to wake up anybody."

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: churchbells; detroit; islamicprayer; mosques; muslimamericans; muslims
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To: broadsword
I am not a racist. I have nothing at all against Christian or non-sectarian Arabs. I am just totally fed up with wild-eyed frikkin Muslims and the other quieter Muslims who secretly smile and nod at the wild-eyed ones who kill my fellow Americans.




Well said.
41 posted on 04/16/2004 1:42:23 PM PDT by Iron Matron (Civil Disobedience? It's not just for liberals anymore!)
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To: Hila
You did not read the answer you critiqued, what the writer does not want is anyone's religion proselityzing from a loud speaker - three times daily!!!!

First, that's five times daily -- don't you know anything about Islam?

Second, the context of her message suggested she wouldn't mind this if it were her own religion making the noise.

But the real problem is that any religion would be appoved to use loud speakers on a continuous manner to "shout" to anyone within hearing range, their "prayers".

I'm right there with you on this and think it shouldn't be allowed, and think that it was a stupid thing to ask for in the first place (and not very neighborly). But I was against the law pushed by Christians that allowed religious exemptions to local ordinances.

42 posted on 04/16/2004 1:42:48 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: rj45mis
Right, and they tell them they have to face NC and pray 5 times a day, and that all others who don't follow this requirement are infidels that need to be killed.

Now you've switched subjects to other practices of religions. We were talking about how both Islam and Christianity prey on weak, ignorant people.

43 posted on 04/16/2004 1:44:19 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: Monty22
Yep, you don't get how inherintely anti-american this call stuff is.

Absolutely not. It's a call to prayer, period. And one of the basics of America is freedom of religion. So I see no problem with it, except for the noise pollution.

44 posted on 04/16/2004 1:45:52 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: Iron Matron
A friend of mine when he was in high school got some of his buddies to break into the local church around midnight one Saturday night. The church had a phonograph, a loud speaker and a record of church bells which they played every Sunday morning. They got into the church, fired up the speakers and put on Fats Domino singing "Yesiree I'm in Love Again". They got out of there just in time as the one-man police force came careening around the corner.
45 posted on 04/16/2004 1:46:00 PM PDT by ladyjane
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To: antiRepublicrat
Are you living testamony?
46 posted on 04/16/2004 1:46:05 PM PDT by whereasandsoforth (tagged for migratory purposes only)
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To: antiRepublicrat
In the end, I don't have a problem with Muslims living around me as long as they're loyal to this country and follow its laws



I use to feel the same, but you just cant trust a muslim. Not until all sleeper cells are found and terrorists killed.

In the meantime, if the muslimes succeed in getting their prayers over loudspeakers, all freedom loving citizens should put speakers on top of their cars, and circle around thses mosques playing christian, buddist, whatever kind of music and/or prayers and DROWN THEIR godless RELIGION UNIL IT IS DEAD!
47 posted on 04/16/2004 1:46:09 PM PDT by Iron Matron (Civil Disobedience? It's not just for liberals anymore!)
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To: antiRepublicrat
Think about what it's a call for praying FOR, then stop your nonsense.
48 posted on 04/16/2004 1:47:02 PM PDT by Monty22
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To: broadsword
when Islam takes the last city, you will be given the choice of a prayer rug or a coffin.


8

I'd choose the coffin - for me or THEM, depending on who draws quicker.
49 posted on 04/16/2004 1:47:14 PM PDT by Iron Matron (Civil Disobedience? It's not just for liberals anymore!)
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To: whereasandsoforth
"The truth is islam is a cult that preys on the weak and REALLY ignorant. "


When I read that, I immediately thought of all the Christians who have televangelists into millionaires...

Weakness and ignorance aren't the sole property of Islam, but they do have a pretty good lock on 'em. Especially the women - how can anyone woman defend her (lack of a) role in Islam?
50 posted on 04/16/2004 1:47:46 PM PDT by Blzbba
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To: broadsword
...howling hell-towers...

I like it. Has a nice ring to it. ;-)

51 posted on 04/16/2004 1:47:54 PM PDT by TopDog2 (Republicans for Nader)
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To: whereasandsoforth
Are you living testamony?

Definitely. Me being neither weak nor ignorant, they fail. Are you testimony to one of their successes?

52 posted on 04/16/2004 1:48:26 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: rj45mis
Amen to that. A stupid ally is worse than a dangerous enemy.
53 posted on 04/16/2004 1:48:31 PM PDT by broadsword (The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for Democrats to get elected.)
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To: antiRepublicrat
I have never heard church bells ringing at ten oclock at night, and whats more there is a big diff between bells and and preaching over a loudspeaker, if it was in my neighborhood I would be pissed off enough to call the police for these stinky winkies disturbing my peace.
54 posted on 04/16/2004 1:52:41 PM PDT by douglas1 (i CANNOT IMAGINE)
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To: broadsword
"No howling hell-towers in my neighborhood, if you please."


NIMBY, baby!
55 posted on 04/16/2004 1:53:15 PM PDT by Blzbba
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To: ladyjane
LOL!
56 posted on 04/16/2004 1:54:53 PM PDT by Iron Matron (Civil Disobedience? It's not just for liberals anymore!)
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To: TopDog2
Let's get the Islamic terminology straight, once and for all:

Mosque = Terrorist Barracks

Red Crescent Ambulance = Munitions Supply Truck

Radical Muslim = REAL Muslim who follows the Koran

Moderate Muslim = A Trojan horse who quietly smiles and nods his head at the terrorists

Koran = a call to terror, murder, oppression, slavery, misogyny and backward culture

Infidel = all non Muslims and Muslims who are not on jihad (all doomed to die)

Holy Lands = all lands unfortunate enough to be or ever have been under the heavy yoke of Muslim terror, murder, oppression, slavery, misogyny

Islamic Pride = an insanely jealous hatred for every other culture that has left Islam groveling in its seventh-century dust.

CAIR = Crying Arabic Islamic Retrogrades

Minaret = Satan's jukebox

Burkha = Misogynistic Mobile Women's Prison

Rape = something the guys get to do, especially to those hottie infidel chicks! (nudge, nudge, wink, wink)

Modern Technology = "Huh? Oh yes, that stuff the evil infidels make and maintain for us to use and kill them."

Allah = the Moon God, whose most important representative here on earth is that meteorite worshiped in Mecca

Little Boys = a man's pleasure machines

Paradise = a giant rape orgy for you - if you die while ruthlessly murdering innocent unsuspecting infidel women and children

U.S. Armed Forces = things to run away from or kill with booby-traps, unless you can take a cheap shot at them and then hide behind women and children or hide in a Mosque.

Christian Church = firewood

Synagogue = firewood

Buddhist Temple = firewood

Hindu Temple = firewood

Confucian Church = firewood

Jewish Restaurant = Bomb Demolition Depot
57 posted on 04/16/2004 1:54:56 PM PDT by broadsword (The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for Democrats to get elected.)
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To: Monty22
Think about what it's a call for praying FOR, then stop your nonsense.

A rough translation is (with various bits repeated):

Allah is Greatest.
I bear witness that there is no other object of worship but Allah.
I bear witness that Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah.
Come to prayer.
Come to Success.
Allah is Greatest.
There is no other object of worship but Allah.
Replace "Allah/Mohammed" with "God/Jesus" and you're not far from your average Christian prayer.
58 posted on 04/16/2004 1:54:58 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: antiRepublicrat
You're such a 2 dimensional thinker. I mean what their message is. The death and destruction of anyone non-islamic, and this country itself.

Please, don't put that trash on this site again.
59 posted on 04/16/2004 1:56:12 PM PDT by Monty22
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To: broadsword
HA!

I'm printing this for my Boss, who believes GWB when he syas, diplomatically, that islam is a religion of peace!
60 posted on 04/16/2004 1:57:40 PM PDT by Iron Matron (Civil Disobedience? It's not just for liberals anymore!)
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