Remember The Alamo, Sure, As Long As We Remember It For What It Really Is: Something Sinister

San Francisco Chronicle (via San Antonio Lightning) ^ | 4/15/04 | Oscar Villalon, Chronicle Book Editor

[laotzu]

Oh, puke.

[2banana]

"So, OK. Behind me you see these Tejanos getting ready to give up their lives for the cause of Texas independence. But you should probably know a couple of things. As soon as Texas gets its independence in 1836 and joins the United States nine years later, all the relatives and the descendants of those poor guys back there will become second-class citizens. Many Tejanos will literally be terrorized by their fellow Texans in the years to come -- over land, over opposing slavery.

"And Mexican Americans in general throughout the Southwest, in Texas and in California in particular, will also experience oppression. Segregation, for example, and of every stripe: segregated movie houses, segregated schools, segregated swimming pools. You name it. If you've ever seen 'Giant,' you know what I'm talking about. In fact, a lot of people don't know this, but the first successful case for desegregation in schools wasn't Brown vs. Board of Education, but Roberto Alvarez vs. the Board of Trustees of the Lemon Grove School District. This happened down in San Diego in 1931. True story.

You think that is bad? - do some history on life in Mexico from the Alamo to now for the average Jose...

[laconic]

John Wayne really had something against Hispanics, didn't he? He was married to two: his first wife was Mexican, the second Peruvian and his children are all Hispanic. Also, if this clown had watched Wayne's version of the Alamo, he would have noticed that many of the best characters in the movie were Hispanic, some of the worst, Anglo. But then again, that would confuse his dim mind with the facts.

[John Thornton]

If it so terrible for Mexicans in America, why do so many millions of them cross the border?

[hopespringseternal]

Also, if this clown had watched Wayne's version of the Alamo, he would have noticed that many of the best characters in the movie were Hispanic, some of the worst, Anglo. But then again, that would confuse his dim mind with the facts.

The idiot also does not realize that not all the Texans fighting for independence were white. For example, the town of Mexia is named for a Mexican general who fought for Texas independence. Texas has families with Spanish surnames who have lived here for hundreds of years, fought for independence, and don't buy that race-baiting crap.

Pretty hard to sell people on the notion that they are excluded from the club when they are the founding members.

[Mr Rogers]

Bottom line - if Texas is so bad, and Mexico so good - why aren't folks sneaking across the Texas border at night to get into Mexico?

[Enterprise]

"If it so terrible for Mexicans in America, why do so many millions of them cross the border?"

It's because life is so wuuuuuunderful in Mexico that they are coming over to the United States to share their wuuuuunderful vision of life. You see, in Mexico, there's no discrimination, no poverty, no upper or lower class. Jobs are plentiful, health care is available to all, they all have clean water, good schools and really really caring politicians and police who only want the best for the people.

[squarebarb]

Santa Ana was in and near San Antonio during Mexico's War Of Independence, ca. 1820; he was a lt. fighting for Spanish Colonial rule. Learned to decapitate fighters opposing Spain. When coming to San Antonio to crush the rebels in 1836 he had just finished up 'the rape of Zacatecas', no details needed.

Local Hispanic people suffered under Spanish colonial rule, Mexican corrupt rule, they suffered under intense attacks from Comanche and Apache raiders and slavers, and then undeniably suffered under Anglo land-grabbers when Texas Republic was established. The vile coward Mustang Gray and his murder of the Benavides family comes to mind.

This idjit doesn't care about real history. Posturing, sneering narcissist.

[Flightdeck]

Heck, we named a whole state after Mexico.

I think this guy was at that protest two weeks ago in San Francisco holding up that sign "Support the insurgents"

[MissAmericanPie]

They kicked the corrupt Mexican officials south of the Rio Grand in the pants for claiming land they never really had the strength to occupy and had not occupied because the Indians kept killing their behinds every time they stepped north of the Rio.

Mexico waited for Americans to clean out the indians, then wanted to take the cake with taxes added. Given our squandering of their sacrifice today, I would have advised them not to bother.

[al_c]

No, the problem is that the Alamo, like the Confederate flag, is a symbol of something much greater, much more sinister than itself.

Well let's just call for a ban on all things American so that we can be more inviting to all the illegals in our country. For cryin' out loud ... what a moron!

[RightWingAtheist]

Guacamole barf alert!

[jdege]

little more than propaganda for the myth of "white man good, brown man bad,"

Until you recognize and accept the fact that Santa Anna was every bit as bad as he's been portrayed in the "myth", you'll never get to the truth.

The tragedy of the Texas Revolution is that none of the other States in Mexico succeeded in rebelling against Santa Anna's coup.

[VadeRetro]

Dress up a bunch of baby chimps in period costumes, give them spark-shooting plastic ray guns and include them in the fall of the Alamo, too, for all that verisimilitude matters.

Here, inadvertently, is liberalism and post-modern relativism in a nutshell. "Not all truth is True. Heck! The Truth may not be true, but so what? We're about The Truth, not things that are true or whatever did happen or whatever is happening now. The Truth is what's important."

[Brian Allen]

<< If it so terrible for Mexicans in America, why do so many millions of them cross the border? >>

Bastards are either all bloody stupid -- or have been conscripted into the Criminal Alien Invasion Army.

Or both.

[7MMmag]

Near present-day Houston, Tex., Santa Anna, was wearing a DRESS, when caught trying to slink away...
hehehe...they HATE it when I remind 'em of THAT one!

[Southack]

"Remembering your heritage oppresses me," the poor liberal whines..."So you must reject and forget your own cultural heritage, lest it offend or oppress me, the epitome of America's new class of professional victims and whiners."

There, I just summarized his entire rant of an article.

[Van Jenerette]

...for later reading.

[ought-six]

Oscar is a typical example of a brown bigot. His allegiance is to Mexico, not to the United States. Oscar should pack up his duds and go back to the country he worships: Mexico.

[Ignatz]

Here, inadvertently, is liberalism and post-modern relativism in a nutshell. "Not all truth is True. Heck! The Truth may not be true, but so what? We're about The Truth, not things that are true or whatever did happen or whatever is happening now. The Truth is what's important."

You and I have disagreed on much, VR, and probably will again in the future, but I couldn't agree more with your above statement!