[laotzu]

Oh, puke.

[2banana]

"So, OK. Behind me you see these Tejanos getting ready to give up their lives for the cause of Texas independence. But you should probably know a couple of things. As soon as Texas gets its independence in 1836 and joins the United States nine years later, all the relatives and the descendants of those poor guys back there will become second-class citizens. Many Tejanos will literally be terrorized by their fellow Texans in the years to come -- over land, over opposing slavery.

"And Mexican Americans in general throughout the Southwest, in Texas and in California in particular, will also experience oppression. Segregation, for example, and of every stripe: segregated movie houses, segregated schools, segregated swimming pools. You name it. If you've ever seen 'Giant,' you know what I'm talking about. In fact, a lot of people don't know this, but the first successful case for desegregation in schools wasn't Brown vs. Board of Education, but Roberto Alvarez vs. the Board of Trustees of the Lemon Grove School District. This happened down in San Diego in 1931. True story.

You think that is bad? - do some history on life in Mexico from the Alamo to now for the average Jose...

[Mr Rogers]

Bottom line - if Texas is so bad, and Mexico so good - why aren't folks sneaking across the Texas border at night to get into Mexico?

[squarebarb]

Santa Ana was in and near San Antonio during Mexico's War Of Independence, ca. 1820; he was a lt. fighting for Spanish Colonial rule. Learned to decapitate fighters opposing Spain. When coming to San Antonio to crush the rebels in 1836 he had just finished up 'the rape of Zacatecas', no details needed.

Local Hispanic people suffered under Spanish colonial rule, Mexican corrupt rule, they suffered under intense attacks from Comanche and Apache raiders and slavers, and then undeniably suffered under Anglo land-grabbers when Texas Republic was established. The vile coward Mustang Gray and his murder of the Benavides family comes to mind.

This idjit doesn't care about real history. Posturing, sneering narcissist.

[MissAmericanPie]

They kicked the corrupt Mexican officials south of the Rio Grand in the pants for claiming land they never really had the strength to occupy and had not occupied because the Indians kept killing their behinds every time they stepped north of the Rio.

Mexico waited for Americans to clean out the indians, then wanted to take the cake with taxes added. Given our squandering of their sacrifice today, I would have advised them not to bother.

[al_c]

No, the problem is that the Alamo, like the Confederate flag, is a symbol of something much greater, much more sinister than itself.

Well let's just call for a ban on all things American so that we can be more inviting to all the illegals in our country. For cryin' out loud ... what a moron!

[RightWingAtheist]

Guacamole barf alert!

[jdege]

little more than propaganda for the myth of "white man good, brown man bad,"

Until you recognize and accept the fact that Santa Anna was every bit as bad as he's been portrayed in the "myth", you'll never get to the truth.

The tragedy of the Texas Revolution is that none of the other States in Mexico succeeded in rebelling against Santa Anna's coup.

[VadeRetro]

Dress up a bunch of baby chimps in period costumes, give them spark-shooting plastic ray guns and include them in the fall of the Alamo, too, for all that verisimilitude matters.

Here, inadvertently, is liberalism and post-modern relativism in a nutshell. "Not all truth is True. Heck! The Truth may not be true, but so what? We're about The Truth, not things that are true or whatever did happen or whatever is happening now. The Truth is what's important."

[7MMmag]

Near present-day Houston, Tex., Santa Anna, was wearing a DRESS, when caught trying to slink away...
hehehe...they HATE it when I remind 'em of THAT one!

[Pietro]

Just what we need, another whiny ass victim group.

Boo freakin hoo, people was mean to my ancestors.

[Jonah Hex]

Hmmm... I wonder if this clymer is familiar with the actions of Captain Carolino Huerta?

During the Goliad Massacre, Captain Huerta directed the slaughter of 40 wounded prisoners unable to walk. He shot the commander, COL James Fannin, last after making sure he know the wounded were executed. Fannin handed his pocket watch to Huerta, requesting it be sent to his wife. He also requested the firing squad to aim at his heart and bury his body in a decent Christian manner. Fannin was shot in the face and his body dumped on a common pyre. Oh yeah, then Huerta then pocketed the dead man's watch.

A real sweetheart, that one. And this clown calls the Alamo "sinister"?

[Billthedrill]

The issue wasn't between "whites" and "Mexicans" at all, not that you could accurately describe the participants on either side that way. The issue - and this part makes advocates such as our author uncomfortable - was between the nascent New World and the defenders of Old World (specifically Habsburg) colonial domination. The New World won, and the fellows who were defending the Old are now rewriting history in racial terms to cover up their own ancestors' culpability.

[Ciexyz]

I have no plans to see the new movie, not even when it rents at fifty cents at Discount Video.

[fella]

21 days after the Alamo fell the good people that this aythor embraces murdered at least 390 POWs at Goliad. Tempering the will of the Texicans, they know how they would be treated if captured. Many other Texicans lost their lives during "The Runaway Scrape" caused by the terror tactics of Santa Anna. So I guess we should appoligize for thwarting the genocide that was planned for Texas.

[Indie]

Where was the puke alert?

[Indie]

I WROTE THE AUTHOR. HERE IS HIS REPLY.

Dear Mr. Doug,

You have not made a point at all, considering that my article in now way poses an assertion that could be possibly answered with your reply. For that to be the case, I suppose you would have to argue that Mexican Americans, or any other American, has no right to be critical of misperceptions of our country and thus try to correct them. This is the best country on the face of the Earth, which is why it's so important for us to do what we can to maintain it that way. This requires searching our hearts and acknowledging our faults, then making peace with them. Or would you argue that being a patriot means saying nothing? Or do you believe that only certain Americans are allowed to speak?
I respectfully suggest you read my article again with this in mind.

Best,
Oscar Villalon
Book Editor
-----Original Message-----
From: newsletter@[mailto:newsletter@]
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 1:16 PM
To: Villalon, Oscar
Subject: THE ALAMO


If America is such a terror for Mexicans, why are they sneaking into our country by the hundreds of thousands?
We all know everything is wonderful in Mexico......---SNIP-----


I think I've made my point. Your article is leftist pablum, and our many hispanic friends (and loves--including my wife) agree.

Doug