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So what's wrong with clubbing seals?
The Telegraph ^ | 15/04/2004 | Boris Johnson

Posted on 04/14/2004 5:21:14 PM PDT by Eurotwit

I don’t know who handles the PR for these Canadian seal-clubbers, but it must be a hell of a job. Can there be any group, on the entire planet, that so excites the hatred of the British public? Not the Korean dog-eaters, nor the Italian butterfly-shooters, nor the Spanish goat-headyankers — no, not even the French, who, as we all know, eat our children’s ponies — no one can match the Canadian fisherman for provoking the Briton to tears of rage; and one can see why.

Here is a fellow who rises and puts on his great big waterproof boots and his great big waterproof hat. Then he picks up a horrible knobkerrie, studded with nails, gives his wife a loving kiss, and strides on to ice floes where he sets about him with a terrible Hutu-style slaughter. Bonk bash bonk he goes, like some demented axeman, and nothing will stop him. The telephoto lenses of the RSPCA cameras whirr and click.

Above him hover the helicopters chartered by the BBC, while live pictures of the horror are beamed into every living-room in this country. Does he care?

Does he hell. And it is not just any old beast that he brains, but a mammal, a creature like us that suckles its young; and it is a large, defenceless mammal, with both eyes in the front of its head, in that cute anthropomorphic way. It is a furry mammal, with a bark as winsome as any leal and faithful labrador.

One after another, biff thunk clunk, the Canadians are now beating these trusting little critters to death, thousands of them a day, until the snow runs red in that awful way we saw on the front of yesterday’s Independent newspaper.

Is there anyone who could possibly attempt to justify this kind of barbarity? Will anyone stand up for the seal cull? Well, ahem, at the risk of terminally alienating and offending animal-lovers across the country, it is the duty of this column — which ever puts logic above popularity — to have a go.

Of course, it must be a dreadful way to go, if you are a seal; and no one could seriously doubt that the method of killing is peculiarly brutal. But I put it to you none the less that the Canadian fisherman has as much right to go out clubbing as the average British 18-year-old.

It was a good thing that there was an outcry in the early 1980s; and it was a good thing that there was a consequent European Union-wide ban on seal fur products. But that was when the cull had so reduced the populations of harp and hooded seals that they were at real risk. That was when they killed the little white baby seals as well, which particularly outraged our sentimental feelings. The truth today is that there are now about six million of these seals, and they are not spending all the time lolling defencelessly on the ice. They are very efficient eaters of fish.

They eat 1.5 tonnes of fish a year each, and given that there are only 50,000 tonnes of cod left off Newfoundland and Labrador, you can see that the ecosystem is badly out of whack.

It is true that the waters have been crazily overfished by the Canadians themselves; but there seems to be good evidence that the voracity of the seals has created a predator trap, by which the fish find it impossible to breed faster than the seals can eat them. You could find what looks like a more humane way of bumping off the seals, such as shooting them. The trouble is that this method is barely more humane than clubbing, and the gunshot lead is expensive and not environmentally friendly.

And surely it makes sense, given how poor these fishermen are, to prevent the pelts from being torn apart by bullets. You may feel affronted by the scale of the slaughter; but I can’t really see a moral difference between authorising the killing of 10,000 seals and 350,000.

If it is really numbers of dead animals that shock you, let me remind you that every year we herd 1.5 million cows and 12.5 million sheep into the dark bellowing terror of dung-encrusted abattoirs, blap them with a bolt in the brain and then slit their throats. We don’t have Canadian camera crews hovering above our meat processing plants.

And if it is not numbers that concern you, but the principle of taking life, then let me remind you that 200,000 embryos are aborted every year in this country; and if you think that is irrelevant, let me remind you that, every year, in the People’s Republic of China, 20,000 sentient adult human beings are killed by the state. Isn’t that, on the face of it, a more natural subject for an Independent campaign?

I tell you why the seal cull speaks so powerfully to us. It’s telly, innit? It’s the shocking undisguisable picture of the lone killer on the ice floe, the graphic impact of the red on the white.

The seal cull provides a uniquely powerful image of what is in fact an everyday event: the violence of man against animals, and the slaughter of animals by man. It is the sheer conspicuousness of that killing that prompts, in our breasts, our exaggerated response: which I might compare, finally, with the agonies now being endured by those of us who supported the war in Iraq.

It looks like an utter disaster, if you rely solely on the television images, and you study the small-scale newspaper maps, with their pictograms of conflagration in every city. This week in The Spectator, we have a brilliant piece by Andrew Gilligan in Baghdad, full of despair at the dilemmas of the coalition troops.

Maybe I am a congenital optimist, but I can’t help wondering whether that is all there is to it, and whether those polls — which found so many Iraqis convinced that their lives had improved — were not also true. Television images of violence can create alarm. They can create outrage. But they are not always the whole story.

Boris Johnson is MP for Henley and editor of The Spectator


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KEYWORDS: animalrights; canuckistan; fur; hunting; seals
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To: Tamsey
I realized afterwards that I was terribly stupid because a guy like that probably wouldn't hesitate to punch a woman but I was so furious I couldn't see straight.

I think a furious woman would probably terrify a man who would torture kittens for fun.

In my case I am a rather small thin white guy, 5'9" only 120 lbs (at that time)...and two of the guys I attacked for abusing animals were black guys who were MUCH bigger than I was.
One of them I saw kick a little cat down some steps..I was so angry I saw red and I kicked him right in the stomach and threatened I would do worse if I ever saw him hurt an animal again. You should have seen the look of shock on his face. He did NOTHING to me.

The other one I saw throwing rocks at a cat. I picked rocks and threw them at him. He backed down as well.

I threatened a neighbor who I saw shooting at rats with a BB gun for fun and flipped out on his mother who tried to defend him.

I cannot stand to watch cruelty..and when I see it, something gives me this strength and rage that just scares the crap out of people. ha ha.

161 posted on 04/14/2004 8:45:46 PM PDT by Jorge
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To: Long Cut
My dumbass cousin raised a baby raccoon and hid it from his parents until the thing took the hide off him one day.
162 posted on 04/14/2004 8:47:28 PM PDT by Old Professer
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To: Jorge
I'll battle by your side anytime and consider it an honor :-)

You might be interested in hearing about my parents cat, name of Freeway. On September 13, 2001 the rescuers at Ground Zero at the WTC called for desperately needed supplies such as boots, gloves, water, flashlights, etc. We bought a few hundreds dollars worth and piled it into the van and we began the drive to NYC about an hour from here. A tiny scrap of orange fluff caught my attention at the side of the freeway as an 18-wheeler in front of us blew by it. It was a sooty, scrawny, starving abandoned newborn kitten. My parents now adore little Freeway who went with us to the still burning WTC area that night.
163 posted on 04/14/2004 9:08:26 PM PDT by Tamzee (9 out of 10 terrorists recommend John Kerry... the tenth still clings to Dean.)
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To: Tamsey
...a scrap of orange fluff caught my attention at the side of the freeway as an 18-wheeler in front of us blew by it. It was a sooty, scrawny, starving abandoned newborn kitten. My parents now adore little Freeway who went with us to the still burning WTC area that night.

That is such a great story. With a happy ending.
You need to post us a picture of Freeway!

God bless you and your family for your contributions to help the Ground Zero rescuers. You are the kind of people that make me love the spirit of America. This is the best place in the world!

164 posted on 04/14/2004 9:24:04 PM PDT by Jorge
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To: Snowyman
I think people are blowing this way out of proportion. The source reporting that the seals are skinned alive was a British newspaper, right? And the British (apparently from this article) hate seal-clubbing, right? Could it be...a distortion of the truth...from the popular media? NO!! NO!! It couldn't be...

Let's all take a deep breath, and read between the lines, shall we?

165 posted on 04/14/2004 9:25:33 PM PDT by natewill (Start the revolution NOW!)
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To: goldstategop
Canadian lefties don't give a hoot about PETA!

The left has never really been a friend to PETA.They mostly view it as a racist group who target 3rd worlders and minority groups.Outside of America,PETA support is much more likely to come from the right.In fact,many of the far-right groups advocate a vegetarian diet including Church Of The Creator.This might have something to do with Hitler's beliefs about keeping a clean body,no-smoking,no-drinking,no-meat etc.PETA is far from left-wing,look at one of their biggest contributors,uber-conservative anti-islamic Bridget Bardot.

166 posted on 04/14/2004 9:37:31 PM PDT by armed_in_sydney
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To: Jorge
I wish I had a picture to post of him, I'll check to see if I find one LOL

Thanks for your warm remarks but we did nothing more than what many, many families around here did, also. What warmed my heart were all the store managers that gave deep discounts at the mere mention that the items were for the firemen at Ground Zero. Total strangers in line behind me at a few locations handed me CASH to help buy extra supplies once they heard me state what the piles of purchases were for.

I have a feeling that these incredible Americans are all on our side of the political fence, too :-)
167 posted on 04/14/2004 10:32:29 PM PDT by Tamzee (9 out of 10 terrorists recommend John Kerry... the tenth still clings to Dean.)
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To: felinesforever
City folk.
168 posted on 04/14/2004 11:02:44 PM PDT by MontanaBeth (Irritating a Democrat a day, since 1970)
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To: natewill
Off course it is propaganda.

People who complain about the lies of Al Jazeera and Robert Fisk, sure are quick to buy anything from the anti-sealing zealots.

Cheers.
169 posted on 04/15/2004 4:12:20 AM PDT by Eurotwit
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To: natewill
I think people are blowing this way out of proportion.

Big time.

Most , if not all , don't have a clue. They are ignoring the fact that sealing is part of that maritime economy for centuries . Ignoring the pelts are worth $50-60 each. Ignoring the marketing of meat products and oil capsules which are extremely high in the beneficial omega fats . And what and how seals are killed .

Everytime we fool with nature there is a reaction. We kill of the predators, we get more of their prey . We kill off wolves , we get more deer . We're sloppy with our crop harvests , leaving too much in the fields , we allow little old ladies to feed the geese and we get more geese . Here, we discontinued our spring bear hunt because of an environmental group threats, now we have black bears breaking in our kitchens and licking our barbecues trying to get something to eat . Someday it will be a child that becomes lunch and the environmental group will be long gone. We kill off polar bears and killer whales , we get more seals. Seals then become the top predators . Except for man .

170 posted on 04/15/2004 5:38:14 AM PDT by Snowyman
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To: Snowyman
I agree, many are not thinking about this rationally, but emotionally. Look, I like cute fuzzy little animals as much as anyone, and I could never club a cute little kitten to death, and I don't know that I could club a cute little seal to death, either.

Still, this is an industry and a living for the men who do it. And these are wild animals that are not endangered, in fact there are good reasons to believe their numbers are out of control. Letting starvation and disease eventually curtail their numbers is hardly more humane than clubbing them on the ice floes. In any case, it's certainly not like those guys are out there killing seals to get their jollies.

I must admit, the clubbing of the seals is somewhat disturbing to me, not being used to seeing such brutality on a regular basis. Of course, I probably wouldn't care too much to watch hogs, cattle or lambs being slaughtered, either.
171 posted on 04/15/2004 6:43:49 AM PDT by -YYZ-
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To: rintense
My great-aunt was responsible for helping pass the humane slaughter bill back in the day.

Good for her! I'll raise a glass to her memory and humanity the next time I imbibe.

172 posted on 04/15/2004 10:02:19 AM PDT by elbucko (I'm not a real SOB, but I play one on FreeRepublic.)
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To: Eurotwit
I am from Norway,.....We are barbarians.

Yes you are. You're also a bunch of socialists sucking on North Sea Oil revenue. You don't need seal pelts.

173 posted on 04/15/2004 10:21:24 AM PDT by elbucko (I'm not a real SOB, but I play one on FreeRepublic.)
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To: Eurotwit
As long as it isn't done with a lead-filled snowshoe I guess it's okay.
174 posted on 04/15/2004 10:24:58 AM PDT by Chunga
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To: LasVegasMac
Hey, did ya hear the one about the baby seal that walked into a club....

No

But I did hear the one about the three legged dog that walked into a western saloon looking for the guy that shot his Paw.

175 posted on 04/15/2004 10:26:34 AM PDT by N. Theknow
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To: elbucko
The state office of communal clothing, has issued a decret that promises each member of the Norwegian proletareat one seal-pelts vest each.

Cheers comrade.

176 posted on 04/15/2004 10:59:38 AM PDT by Eurotwit
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To: Senator Pardek
It may be that they live in an area where the economy is pretty hard scrabble, I'm assuming sealing is done in the far north, no? There may not be a lot of other sources of honest work. Sealing, combined with fishing, trapping etc. may be all there is. I knew a Meti at Upper Bark Lake Ontario that spent the whole year as caretaker/guide at a fishing/hunting camp just because he didn't want to be on the dole and on a binge living in a city, lacking the skills as he did the skills to find honest work.to find honest work.
177 posted on 04/15/2004 12:11:56 PM PDT by skepsel
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To: skepsel
Arrgghh! last sentence is the result of caffeine overload, read simply as "lacking the skills as he did to find honest work."
178 posted on 04/15/2004 12:17:04 PM PDT by skepsel
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To: Long Cut
I agree and thanks saying it so well.
I don't know anyone can look at that adorable animal and then brutalize it in such a manner. This is just sick, depraved and wrong on every level.
179 posted on 04/15/2004 12:17:28 PM PDT by Feiny (They Will Fear Us, We Will Prevail)
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To: Long Cut
Personally I consider poison darts immoral and wasteful.

I also happen to love seal fur coats, they feel so good.
180 posted on 04/15/2004 12:39:13 PM PDT by NathanR (California Si! Aztlan NO!)
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