So what's wrong with clubbing seals?

The Telegraph ^ | 15/04/2004 | Boris Johnson

[LasVegasMac]

Hey, did ya hear the one about the baby seal that walked into a club....

I'm bad. I know.

LVM

[Tacis]

Yes, yes! Terrible, terrible! Do we have any of those little potatoes left?

[mlbford2]

yeah, the bartender said 'whata ya have' and the seal said anything but Canadian Club. bing badda bing

[AlbertWang]

Whoa.

[Malsua]

It's only bad if you're the seal.

[KevinDavis]

Only bad if Americans do it.

[KevinDavis]

Only bad if Americans do it.

[Eala]

Of course, it must be a dreadful way to go, if you are a seal; and no one could seriously doubt that the method of killing is peculiarly brutal.

Don't know how much perception they have of what's going on around them, but it would seem death would be virtually instantaneous... as opposed to death by starvation, disease or polar bear.

[Tamzee]

Then they should use an injection to kill them or stun them with a prod first to kill them completely and humanely prior to skinning them. Or thin the seals by culling adults like we usually do with other types of mammals. I don't have a problem with killing them, just the brutality of how they go about it.

[Long Cut]

In a word...EVERYTHING!

Killing an animal like this, defenseless and terrified, by beating it to death with a club, is simply not a fit occupation for any MAN worth the name.

They pose no threat to humans, do not provide food or survival items, or even sport. There is neither honor nor decency nor dignity in it. Thus, it is an act which all MEN worthy of the name should condemn in the loudest voice possible.

There are numerous reports of the seals even being skinned while still alive. Our status as the dominant species on the planet nonetheless does not give us license to torture an animal to death in such a manner. Those who can are not to be trusted around other humans; they should be shunned.

I used to hunt; I still enjoy fishing. But no decent, conscientious hunter I have ever known has tortured his game to death; the goal is a clean, quick kill, and full use of the game animal.

I was also once the victim of a savage blow to the head, from an individual who meant to kill me. By luck, I survived, much to that person's sorrow. I never forgot the pain, however, or the days spent with headaches and dizziness when my legs just would not work right and my eyes were blurry. Anyone excusing this barbarity might think twice had the experience been a personal one. You DO know what hit you.

One need not be a wild-eyed animal rights nutcase to see the evil in this for what it is. Any senseless act that lacks honor, dignity, and decency is not an act a MAN should ever condone.

I watched some of the video the BBC shot of this so-called "hunt". It makes one wonder just who the animals really are. A special place in Hell awaits those creatures who perpetrated this. There is no possible way that a just God would condone it.

[Long Cut]

"No. Don't appease. Ever. Hunt like men, dammit."

Is your idea of "hunting like a MAN" killing infant animals with NO chance of escape by hitting them with a club? Is it your idea of "hunting like a man" to skin an infant animal alive?

MEN do not do such things.

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Read post # 12. They have every idea...they can smell the blood, and can hear the cries of the rest.

For God's sake, they are infants when this is done...12 days old! I cannot imagine the terror they suffer, or the pain of being skinned alive in some circumstances.

What human coud do this, just to make a soft coat?

[Eurotwit]

Don't fall for Sea Shepards propaganda.

If it has been clubbed in the head, it is not being skinned ALIVE afterwards.

[Petronski]

They pose no threat to humans....

Do you like cod?

[Petronski]

I was also once the victim of a savage blow to the head, from an individual who meant to kill me. By luck, I survived, much to that person's sorrow. I never forgot the pain, however, or the days spent with headaches and dizziness when my legs just would not work right and my eyes were blurry.

Had he finished you off with another blow, you would not have suffered.

[Long Cut]

From the article at the head of THIS THREAD,from the Guardian...

"Although the Canadian government claims seals are no longer skinned alive during the culls, recent eye-witness accounts claim otherwise, corroborating studies suggesting that more than four in 10 pups are still alive when hunters skin them."

Don't excuse evil.

[Long Cut]

SOOOoo, that justifies it. Right. I'll pay a little more for the cod, rather than have that on my conscience. Come to think, I don't really like cod THAT much.

[rintense]

My great-aunt was responsible for helping pass the humane slaughter bill back in the day. She's rolling in her grave as we speak over such senseless cruelty.