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GORELICK GATE: ASHCROFT HITS BACK AT PANEL
New York Post ^ | April 14, 2004 | By VINCENT MORRIS and ANDY SOLTIS

Posted on 04/13/2004 11:38:37 PM PDT by joinedafterattack

Edited on 05/26/2004 5:20:37 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

April 14, 2004 -- Attorney General John Ashcroft turned the tables on the 9/11 commission yesterday, blaming legal restrictions, including a memo written by one of commission's own members, for barring investigators from sharing information that might have stopped the terror attacks. Ashcroft blasted the "legal wall" put into effect in 1995 which stopped information flowing between intelligence agents and criminal probers.


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KEYWORDS: 911commission; aschcrofttestimony; ashcroft; doj; gorelick; gorelickmemo
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1 posted on 04/13/2004 11:38:38 PM PDT by joinedafterattack
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To: joinedafterattack
Excellent job by Ashcroft!

From CNN: Ashcroft denies taking little interest in terrorism

2 posted on 04/14/2004 12:00:08 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The terrorists and their supporters declared war on the United States - and war is what they got!!!!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
From the link above:

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Ashcroft criticized his predecessors at the Justice Department, saying a 1995 memorandum by then-Deputy Attorney General Jamie Gorelick -- now a member of the commission -- hamstrung the FBI beyond what the law required.

3 posted on 04/14/2004 12:01:40 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The terrorists and their supporters declared war on the United States - and war is what they got!!!!)
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To: StarFan; Howlin; NYC GOP Chick
ping
4 posted on 04/14/2004 12:08:17 AM PDT by nutmeg (Why vote for Bush? Imagine Commander in Chief John F’in al-Qerry)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
This is all going to blow up in the Democrats face...
Unless I miss my guess.....this zoo will cost them more than the White House, they will lose Senate and House seats as well...

Rave on lunatics...

Semper Fi
5 posted on 04/14/2004 12:24:56 AM PDT by river rat (You may turn the other cheek...But I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: joinedafterattack
Ashcroft was brilliant. He had the entire panel turned on their heads and they didn't know if they were coming or going let alone what to say. It was the greatest TV I've seen in months. I laughed thru the entire thing.
6 posted on 04/14/2004 12:26:58 AM PDT by Anti-Christ is Hillary
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To: joinedafterattack
bump
7 posted on 04/14/2004 12:27:22 AM PDT by jonno (We are NOT a democracy - though we are democratic. We ARE a constitutional republic.)
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To: river rat
I was shaving this morning on Guam when AG ASHCROFT was testifying. I kept running out of the head to listen...my wife thought I was losing my mind. By the time Hannity and Colmes came on later at work I was eating my lunch...I almost puked when the DUKAKIS lady came on. YUCK!! Semper Fidelis (Eagle, Globe and Anchor...Marine Corps Tanker!!)
8 posted on 04/14/2004 12:45:15 AM PDT by MCFujiTanker
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To: river rat
I was shaving this morning on Guam when AG ASHCROFT was testifying. I kept running out of the head to listen...my wife thought I was losing my mind. By the time Hannity and Colmes came on later at work I was eating my lunch...I almost puked when the DUKAKIS lady came on. Man, is she full of bologna. YUCK!! Semper Fidelis (Eagle, Globe and Anchor...Marine Corps Tanker!!)
9 posted on 04/14/2004 12:55:35 AM PDT by MCFujiTanker
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To: joinedafterattack
Ashcroft was awesome! Imagine if 9/11 had happened under Clinton's watch and Janet Reno was in charge.
10 posted on 04/14/2004 12:55:37 AM PDT by tkathy (nihilism: absolute destructiveness toward the world at large and oneself)
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To: joinedafterattack
The commiecRAT party is this country's #1 enemy! Public enemy #1! Don't ever forget that!
11 posted on 04/14/2004 1:12:45 AM PDT by Waco
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To: river rat
Unless I miss my guess.....this zoo will cost them more than the White House, they will lose Senate and House seats as well...

That is certainly what SHOULD happen and what WOULD happen in a nation where there was an honest news media. Unfortunately, you know as well as I that this story will be downplayed and spun by liberal newsrooms across the country. Heck, they'll probably find a way to make Ashcroft look mean and vindictive and..... partisan.

12 posted on 04/14/2004 1:20:35 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: joinedafterattack
Is howcome, after a meeting in Washington, D.C., in June of 1999, I told a friend, that whoever comes up with the cure for cancer, do not take it to Washington, D.C.

Because it will never go public.

13 posted on 04/14/2004 2:02:23 AM PDT by First_Salute (May God save our democratic-republican government, from a government by judiciary.)
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To: Lancey Howard
Well, God Bless John Ashcroft, who has stumbled into the mantle of the much hated (by the left) J. Edgar Hoover.

Thank GOD ABOVE that one of our Republicans has the cajones to tell the truth, and to tell it with the strength of his convictions.

Rant on, Mr. A, rant on! There is no weapon formed that will prosper against you when you speak the truth like that!


14 posted on 04/14/2004 2:05:34 AM PDT by CalifornianConservative
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To: joinedafterattack
The "wall" stems from the different approaches of criminal investigators, who must follow strict rules of due process and other concerns, and anti-terrorism investigators, who have more freedom in seizing evidence and taking other measures.

Bull.

The "wall" is not that we must follow strict rules about due process. The "wall" is about the re-interpretationists who play scrabble with the language and bend words in our laws way beyond the authors' original intent. The "wall" is such leftist lawyering legaleze designed to affect social engineering by actually making due process fail, sometimes by working it to death, but generally by portraying it for public consumption as something that it is not.

Among the blessings of due process, are that the burden of following the rule of law is placed upon government officials, to observe their duties within the limits set down by law. Officials must follow the steps and are not to shortchange you of these steps.

The "wall" is not that the steps intended in the law are too much; the "wall" is that the insidious judge-made extra-Cosntitution steps --- the many more than originally intended by the authors of the law --- are pulled from outer space by "the left" which desires a government by such judiciary.

Such that, instead of there being a due process of exacting steps made by law as we are to fashion law under our Constitution --- by the democratic-republican process --- no, instead, "the left" desires that they make laws by stripping the words in our laws, of their fixed nature, of their original intent, by literally playing scrabble with the words, making them so bendable or elastic as to then be rendered other than the authors' original intent.

That, is the "wall;" a minefield of bureaucratic excess.

Well then, to try and get something done, comes the argument that --- in over-generalization --- "due process is in the way" when that is not the case at all.

Due process is not in the way.

Meaningless-ness as a trade, that is the "product" of socialist thought police, who are at war against western values, and so they are busy defining what is good, to be in the way, setting a stage for public consumption of Hillary Clinton's fiction, by strewing in the path of due process, a maze that is intended by them, to get you/us to quit due process, to give up the fight for maintaining due process.

By wearing you/us down with what they want you/us to believe that due process is somehow ... "scary" and between you/us and government protecting you/us.

All the while, these socialists chatter about how they are champions of due process.

Depends upon what their meaning of "due process," "is." If a body cares to ask.

When you/we don't ask, their "due process" is revealed after the damage that it has done, as being nothing like what our laws' authors' orignally intended.

Instead, it is just plain gobbledygook. See the leftists' much beloved, "living" tax code, for a "good example."

15 posted on 04/14/2004 2:24:34 AM PDT by First_Salute (May God save our democratic-republican government, from a government by judiciary.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
I'll bet my last P-38 that crap was made up out of whole cloth or at best taken way out of context, so that our "liberal" media would have an alternative headline in lieu of what REALLY happened - no search warrant for meathead's laptop, because of "the wall" - and the authoress is on the commission! You can't make this stuff up.
16 posted on 04/14/2004 2:25:33 AM PDT by Freedom4US
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To: joinedafterattack
You know, after I read about Ashcroft's performance yesterday I was kind of charged. Someone finally placed the concerns into perspective by stating the extent of the disaster that the previous administration forwarded as "policy".

Then I ruined my mood last night by listening to O'Reilly who spews about Ashcroft denying responsibility and spending his time cover "nekkid statues" with blankets during the first months of his service. He berated them all for not taking "responsibility" for 9/11.

O'Reilly needs to get a clue. If Ashcroft was flying the darn planes I'd probably be of a different mindset. The fatal flaw with O'Reilly's statement is that he advocates Ashcroft pursuing Terrorists via the same failed policies as the Clinton fiasco, the same policy that eventually lead to 9/11.

The problem is that we were never at a state of war at any given time with the new administration. Bush had to deal with the rats stonewalling every aspect of Bush's ability to even establish a new governing body. How long did it take for the GAO to hand over "the keys" at the goading of the rats? How long before they even had a key board that was capable of typing more than " ar on Terror"?

Bush had many obstacle to overcome just to get settled in the White House. The rats obstructed him at every possible point.

One could even state that the rats themselves are responsible for critical delays that may have been responsible for Bush to be able to do anything about 9/11.

Not that he could have. Yet we didn't need people in our own country working against this country at such a time. We don't need to look beyond the border to find the real enemies of this nation. They are the rats.

17 posted on 04/14/2004 2:30:14 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Democrats.. Socialists..Commies..Traitors...Who can tell the difference?)
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To: tkathy
Ashcroft was awesome! Imagine if 9/11 had happened under Clinton's watch and Janet Reno was in charge.

We wouldn't be having this conversation because we'd still be under martial law.

18 posted on 04/14/2004 3:58:30 AM PDT by Dahoser (9/11---The Legacy of Clinton treating terrorism as a law enforcement issue.)
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To: joinedafterattack; Mo1; StriperSniper; Howlin
I missed this yesterday,I wish I'd stayed at work to watch this.


GORLICK MUST BE REMOVED!
19 posted on 04/14/2004 4:00:21 AM PDT by OXENinFLA
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To: joinedafterattack
BTTT
20 posted on 04/14/2004 4:03:27 AM PDT by Right_in_Virginia
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