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Research: Pig Manure Can Become Crude Oil
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| 04/13/04
| JIM PAUL
Posted on 04/13/2004 10:24:01 AM PDT by m1-lightning
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To: junta
Check out New World Technologies. It's a pretty interesting company that has converted all kinds of skeptics and now has a plant up and running in Carthage, MO. This is a huge advancement in changing waste products into usable fuel. Do they break the laws of thermodynamics by getting more energy than they produce? No. But they do use up waste products saving storage space and expense, plus they get a more than reasonable production of light crude in return.
I expect hundreds of these plants, mostly in small towns with animal processing facilities, by the end of the decade.
To: Dark Knight; farmfriend; Boot Hill; snopercod; Dog Gone; lewislynn; Grampa Dave; biblewonk
HOGWASH!!! Alternative energy is PIG MANURE!!!
(just like organic farming and all that other hippie crappola)
You can run Volvo's on hippie manure, too!!!
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posted on
04/13/2004 10:36:14 AM PDT
by
SierraWasp
(John Fallujah Kerry! Now we REALLY know what HE meant, by "Bring... It... On!!!" He sure DID!!!)
To: m1-lightning
A similar process is being used at a plant in Carthage, Mo., where tons of turkey entrails, feathers, fat and grease from a nearby Butterball turkey plant are converted into a light crude oil, said Julie DeYoung, a spokeswoman for Omaha, Neb.-based Conagra Foods, which operates the plant in a joint venture with Changing World Technologies of Long Island, N.Y. This is really exciting news. More data on it may be found here: Adobe .pdf file will download and open.
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posted on
04/13/2004 10:36:17 AM PDT
by
Hodar
(With Rights, comes Responsibilities. Don't assume one, without assuming the other.)
To: biblewonk
I always appreciate energy threads so I can remind everyone that, we need more windmills. Lots of windmills. You're either being sarcastic or smoking crack.
To: junta
Uses intense heat", where do we get that? Well you also use "intense heat" to crack and refine crude oil. You burn some oil to heat the rest is how you get it.
If they can produce it at $10 a barrel like the article says, that's a damn good deal.
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posted on
04/13/2004 10:37:43 AM PDT
by
Ditto
( No trees were killed in sending this message, but billions of electrons were inconvenienced.)
To: biblewonk
I always appreciate energy threads so I can remind everyone that, we need more windmills. Lots of windmills.And build them all in Massachusetts!
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posted on
04/13/2004 10:38:34 AM PDT
by
m1-lightning
(God, Guns, and Country!)
To: Anitius Severinus Boethius
And, if I'm not mistaken, they are within shouting distance of producing oil that is competitive with current crude oil production methods.
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posted on
04/13/2004 10:38:58 AM PDT
by
stylin_geek
(Koffi: 0, G.W. Bush: (I lost count))
To: biblewonk
"so I can remind everyone that, we need more windmills"Yeah... Right!!! Wait'll your stuff hits that fan!!! Phewey!!!
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posted on
04/13/2004 10:39:23 AM PDT
by
SierraWasp
(John Fallujah Kerry! Now we REALLY know what HE meant, by "Bring... It... On!!!" He sure DID!!!)
To: m1-lightning
Where do they get the heat from? Someone posted methane the manure itself, but I wonder about the feasibility of that.
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posted on
04/13/2004 10:40:20 AM PDT
by
redgolum
To: SierraWasp
HOGWASH!!! Alternative energy is PIG MANURE!!! Before you make a complete and total fool out of yourself, I would suggest a little research. Hydrocarbons found in fossil fuels are relatively short carbon strings, with a bunch of hydrogen attached. Turkey guts, methane gas, lumber, grass cuttings, feathers, tires and just about anything that once was living are just LONGER strings of hydrocarbons. Combinations of temperature and pressure will break down these long strings, into short strings - which is EXACTLY what a petrolium refinery does with crude. So, by simply changing the process a wee bit, we can produce Gasoline (yep, gasoline) from turkey offal, dead pigs, cows, grass clippings, seaweed ... whatever.
The process is NOT even remotely like the process of using french frie waste oil to power a VW.
Might I suggest you just review this article, originally taken from 'Discovery' magazine.
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posted on
04/13/2004 10:42:00 AM PDT
by
Hodar
(With Rights, comes Responsibilities. Don't assume one, without assuming the other.)
To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
You're either being sarcastic or smoking crack. No I think windpower is the renewable alternate energy of the future, along with GE and Shell and many other large corporations and financial institutions. It is already at 40 gw installed power and has maintained a 25 percent growth rate for about 10 years. That is doubling every 3 years.
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posted on
04/13/2004 10:42:12 AM PDT
by
biblewonk
(The only book worth reading, and reading, and reading.)
To: m1-lightning
Q: Where do you get Hogaline?
A: From crude oink.
To: biblewonk
I always appreciate energy threads so I can remind everyone that, we need more windmills. Lots of windmills. So build them on your own property then, so the remains from cut-up birds can damage your home and the noise from windmills will give you the heebie-jeebies at night.
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posted on
04/13/2004 10:43:01 AM PDT
by
ServesURight
(FReecerely Yours,)
To: m1-lightning; BOBTHENAILER; SierraWasp; Shermy
Confused, the bi sexual spawn of Confuscious, has stated:
Never be downwind of a vehicle fueled by gas from Pig Manure!
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posted on
04/13/2004 10:45:22 AM PDT
by
Grampa Dave
(America can't afford a 9/10 John F'onda al Querry after 9/11.)
To: Anitius Severinus Boethius
To: biblewonk
It is already at 40 gw installed power and has maintained a 25 percent growth rate for about 10 years. That is doubling every 3 years. The only limiting factors, are Greenpeace complaints that they shred birds, and the fact you can't build them within site of land owned by the Kennedys or other "Limousine Liberals".
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posted on
04/13/2004 10:46:33 AM PDT
by
50sDad
( ST3d - Star Trek Tri-D Chess! http://my.oh.voyager.net/~abartmes)
To: redgolum
Where do they get the heat from? Ok, you need something to burn to start the process. This will later be replaced with the product, but to get started you need a fuel source.
We start by removing the water. Traditionally, this was done in a very inefficent manner, such that the total efficiency of removing the water took more energy than the product produced. Now, we use water to our advantage. Start by sealing the container, and heating it to ~400 F, and about 350psi. This breaks down the carbon strings a bit. Now, remove the pressure and you will remove most of the water - which we reclaim for heating the next batch.
This hot mixture (now minus the water content) is heated to about 600 F, under about 400 psi (much lower pressure/temp ratio, as the water is gone). Let sit for about 2 hours. This really breaks down the hydrocarbon stings. By the way, this is EXACTLY how we make gasoline and ligher petrolium oils.
In short, we have done in a matter of hours what mother nature takes millions of years to do. Pressure and temperature transform a forest into coal, dinosaurs into oil. We just sped the process up a few billion-fold.
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posted on
04/13/2004 10:47:24 AM PDT
by
Hodar
(With Rights, comes Responsibilities. Don't assume one, without assuming the other.)
To: biblewonk
It is already at 40 gw installed power and has maintained a 25 percent growth rate for about 10 years. That is doubling every 3 years. The only limiting factors, are Greenpeace complaints that they shred birds, and the fact you can't build them within sight of land owned by the Kennedys or other "Limousine Liberals". (DOH!)
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posted on
04/13/2004 10:47:24 AM PDT
by
50sDad
( ST3d - Star Trek Tri-D Chess! http://my.oh.voyager.net/~abartmes)
To: biblewonk
Why bother? You're preaching to the
choir. devilOn second thought, the devil isn't willfully ignorant. So, that analogy fails.
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posted on
04/13/2004 10:51:04 AM PDT
by
newgeezer
(...until the voters discover they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury.)
To: Hodar; Boot Hill; snopercod
I'm not the one in danger of fooldumb!!! I don't care where you pulled this crap out of! Discovery Mag is NOT a reliable scientific source ANY LONGER!!! You're the one that better "run for cover!"
This is just another load the farmer hauled away...
You could tell by the smell it wasn't hay...
next it'll be scientific as fungschway...
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posted on
04/13/2004 10:51:56 AM PDT
by
SierraWasp
(John Fallujah Kerry! Now we REALLY know what HE meant, by "Bring... It... On!!!" He sure DID!!!)
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