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Andy Rooney: Our Soldiers Aren't Heroes
Drudgereport.com | 4/12/04 | DrudgeReport

Posted on 04/12/2004 12:22:00 PM PDT by NYC Republican

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: andylooney; andyrooney; venomoussob
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1 posted on 04/12/2004 12:22:03 PM PDT by NYC Republican
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To: NYC Republican
If I see him on a street coner, I am really going to have to resist the urge to punch him in the face.
2 posted on 04/12/2004 12:22:57 PM PDT by threat matrix
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To: NYC Republican
Our soldiers in Iraq aren't heroes (But Andy Rooney is! (not))
3 posted on 04/12/2004 12:23:09 PM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: NYC Republican
Retired soldier to Andy Rooney: YOU ARE A LIBERAL JACKASS!
4 posted on 04/12/2004 12:23:36 PM PDT by RetiredArmy (We'll put a boot in your ass, it's the American Way! Toby Keith)
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To: NYC Republican
Not news...just read his book "My War"....
5 posted on 04/12/2004 12:23:57 PM PDT by dakine (Break-up the Tigers! 5-1!...)
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To: NYC Republican
From Andy Rooney:

Most of the reporting from Iraq is about death and destruction. We don't learn much about what our soldiers in Iraq are thinking or doing. There's no Ernie Pyle to tell us, and, if there were, the military would make it difficult or impossible for him to let us know. It would be interesting to have a reporter ask a group of our soldiers in Iraq to answer five questions and see the results:

1. Do you think your country did the right thing sending you into Iraq?

2. Are you doing what America set out to do to make Iraq a democracy, or have we failed so badly that we should pack up and get out before more of you are killed?

3. Do the orders you get handed down from one headquarters to another, all far removed from the fighting, seem sensible, or do you think our highest command is out of touch with the reality of your situation?

4. If you could have a medal or a trip home, which would you take?

5. Are you encouraged by all the talk back home about how brave you are and how everyone supports you?

Treating soldiers fighting their war as brave heroes is an old civilian trick designed to keep the soldiers at it. But you can be sure our soldiers in Iraq are not all brave heroes gladly risking their lives for us sitting comfortably back here at home.

Our soldiers in Iraq are people, young men and women, and they behave like people - sometimes good and sometimes bad, sometimes brave, sometimes fearful. It's disingenuous of the rest of us to encourage them to fight this war by idolizing them.

We pin medals on their chests to keep them going. We speak of them as if they volunteered to risk their lives to save ours, but there isn't much voluntary about what most of them have done. A relatively small number are professional soldiers. During the last few years, when millions of jobs disappeared, many young people, desperate for some income, enlisted in the Army. About 40 percent of our soldiers in Iraq enlisted in the National Guard or the Army Reserve to pick up some extra money and never thought they'd be called on to fight. They want to come home.

One indication that not all soldiers in Iraq are happy warriors is the report recently released by the Army showing that 23 of them committed suicide there last year. This is a dismaying figure. If 22 young men and one woman killed themselves because they couldn't take it, think how many more are desperately unhappy but unwilling to die.

We must support our soldiers in Iraq because it's our fault they're risking their lives there. However, we should not bestow the mantle of heroism on all of them for simply being where we sent them. Most are victims, not heroes.

America's intentions are honorable. I believe that, and we must find a way of making the rest of the world believe it. We want to do the right thing. We care about the rest of the world. President Bush's intentions were honorable when he took us into Iraq. They were not well thought out but honorable.

Bush's determination to make the evidence fit the action he took, which it does not, has made things look worse. We pay lip service to the virtues of openness and honesty, but for some reason, we too often act as though there was a better way of handling a bad situation than by being absolutely open and honest.

6 posted on 04/12/2004 12:23:57 PM PDT by NYC Republican
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To: NYC Republican
Sean's now talking about this...
7 posted on 04/12/2004 12:24:33 PM PDT by NYC Republican
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To: NYC Republican
Andy Roony,
Suffers from a bad case of Rectal Cranium Inversion,
Blithering old fool,
Needs his a$$ kicked,
8 posted on 04/12/2004 12:25:20 PM PDT by Rightly Biased (<><)
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To: NYC Republican
I bet that he thinks that Kerry is a hero.
9 posted on 04/12/2004 12:25:48 PM PDT by Hillary's Lovely Legs (I am trying to stop an outbreak here and you are driving the monkey to the airport!)
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To: threat matrix
Don't resist that urge, embrace it for us all.
10 posted on 04/12/2004 12:26:11 PM PDT by Bikers4Bush (Flood waters rising, heading for more conservative ground. Write in Tancredo in 04'!)
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To: NYC Republican
Rooney is a barf bag...without the bag.....
11 posted on 04/12/2004 12:26:28 PM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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To: NYC Republican
Andy Rooney poll:
1. Harmless old coot.
2. Menace to society.
3. Freakish waste of carbon.

Vote for one or all. Feel free to add your own.

12 posted on 04/12/2004 12:27:15 PM PDT by don-o (Stop Freeploading. Do the right thing and sign up for a monthly donation.)
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To: Allegra; Flyer
"Senile Old Fool" ping
13 posted on 04/12/2004 12:27:47 PM PDT by thackney (Life is Fragile, Handle with Prayer)
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To: threat matrix
Don't resist. Do it!!!!
14 posted on 04/12/2004 12:27:54 PM PDT by altura
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To: All
ALREADY POSTED HERE: Our soldiers in Iraq aren't heroes (But Andy Rooney is! (not))
15 posted on 04/12/2004 12:28:14 PM PDT by 1Old Pro
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ALREADY POSTED HERE: Our soldiers in Iraq aren't heroes (But Andy Rooney is! (not))
16 posted on 04/12/2004 12:28:16 PM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: NYC Republican
Can we please just ignore this idiot?
17 posted on 04/12/2004 12:28:48 PM PDT by WinOne4TheGipper (See me review DU!: http://ranking.websearch.com/UserReviews.aspx?url=www.democraticunderground.com)
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To: threat matrix
Why fight your instincts? Trust your feelings on this one. You can always claim insanity...that is, if a cop would actually arrest you for it.
18 posted on 04/12/2004 12:29:10 PM PDT by GBA
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To: NYC Republican
During the last few years, when millions of jobs disappeared, many young people, desperate for some income, enlisted in the Army. About 40 percent of our soldiers in Iraq enlisted in the National Guard or the Army Reserve to pick up some extra money and never thought they'd be called on to fight. They want to come home.

Just states it as if by saying it it's true.

Um, I THINK that when people enlist in the National Guard or Reserves they're advised they may well be called to fight, and contrary to Rooney's assertion that they never expected it, I tend to doubt it.

I also seem to recall a huge wave of enlistments due to 9/11,not a need for more income.

I will credit Rooney for at least stating that though he believes President Bush made a mistake he thinks his intentions are honorable.

19 posted on 04/12/2004 12:30:21 PM PDT by cyncooper
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To: 1Old Pro; dead; Sidebar Moderator
Thanks folks. I did a search and nothing came up???

Moderator, can you remove/lock this thread, we'll use the other one?

20 posted on 04/12/2004 12:31:18 PM PDT by NYC Republican
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