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Kerry Ignores Reproaches of Some Bishops
NYT via Drudge ^ | 04.11.04

Posted on 04/11/2004 9:13:49 PM PDT by Coleus

April 11, 2004

Kerry Ignores Reproaches of Some Bishops

By KATHARINE Q. SEELYE

BOSTON, April 11 — Rejecting the admonitions of several national Roman Catholic leaders, Senator John Kerry received communion at Easter services today at the Paulist Center here, a kind of New Age church that describes itself as "a worship community of Christians in the Roman Catholic tradition" and that attracts people drawn to its dedication to "family religious education and social justice."

Mr. Kerry's decision to receive communion represented a challenge to several prominent Catholic bishops, who have become increasingly exasperated with politicians who are Catholic but who deviate from Catholic teaching.

Mr. Kerry, the presumed Democratic presidential nominee, supports abortion rights and stem cell research, both of which are contrary to church teaching. He and his wife, Teresa Heinz Kerry, are regular worshipers at the Paulist Center, which is near their home on Beacon Hill.

Last November, the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops organized a task force headed by Cardinal Theodore McCarrick of Washington to study how the church should treat Catholic politicians like Mr. Kerry, who say they are personally opposed to abortion, for example, but support abortion rights legislatively. There has been a long line of such politicians, including Mario Cuomo, the former governor of New York, and Geraldine Ferraro, the Democratic vice presidential candidate in 1984.

The task force has not issued any specific recommendations, but some members have discussed a range of penalties, from withholding communion to excommunication.

In a television interview today, Cardinal McCarrick indicated that depriving a Catholic of communion would be a last resort that he, for one, would be reluctant to take.

"I think there are many of us who would feel that there are certain restrictions that we might put on people" he said on the "Fox News Sunday" program. "But I think many of us would not like to use the Eucharist as part of the sanctions."

In February, the archbishop of St. Louis, Raymond Burke, warned Mr. Kerry before the Missouri primary that he would not give him communion because the senator was defying church teaching.

Archbishop Sean O'Malley of Boston has not explicitly said that Mr. Kerry may not receive communion, but he has suggested that Catholic politicians whose political views contradict Catholic teaching should voluntarily abstain, saying they "shouldn't dare come to communion."

There were no protesters at today's services, and it was not clear whether Mr. Kerry's receiving communion would bring a response from the church or affect his campaign as he seeks to become only the second Roman Catholic president of the United States, after John F. Kennedy.

"It was a wonderful service," Mr. Kerry told reporters afterward. As he emerged from the church, he received a sustained ovation. He shook hands with several people and posed for pictures, then ducked back into the vestibule to thank the priest.

Mr. Kerry heads to New Hampshire on Monday and expects to have several Democratic colleagues around the country join in a coordinated attack on President Bush's handling of the economy.

In an ongoing effort to make the economy the central issue in the presidential campaign, Mr. Kerry's campaign issued a so-called "misery index" today that purports to show that under Mr. Bush, the economic power of middle-class families has deteriorated at record levels.

The misery index is based on median family income, private-sector job growth, the rate of home ownership, the increase in the number of personal bankruptcies and the cost of college tuition, health care and gasoline cost.

The Kerry campaign has computed that the "misery index" in the last three years under Mr. Bush has been the worst in in three decades, with the biggest problems being the rise in college tuition (up 13 percent from 2002 to 2003), the loss of private-sector jobs, the rise in health premiums and the decline in family income.


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To: Coleus
the Paulist Center here, a kind of New Age church that describes itself as "a worship community of Christians in the Roman Catholic tradition" and that attracts people drawn to its dedication to "family religious education and social justice."

LOL! I'm amazed that even the New York Times recognizes that this is a "New Age" church and not a Catholic church.

21 posted on 04/11/2004 10:22:32 PM PDT by Unam Sanctam
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To: LasVegasMac
LVM,

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Two great phrases that are hopefully becoming common are "NON-NEGOTIABLE ISSUE" and "disqualifying issue"

From A Brief Catechism for Catholic Voters :
"A disqualifying issue is one which is of such gravity and importance that it allows for no political maneuvering. It is an issue that strikes at the heart of the human person and is non-negotiable. A disqualifying issue is one of such enormity that by itself renders a candidate for office unacceptable regardless of his position on other matters."

The FIVE NON-NEGOTIABLE ISSUES are:
1. Abortion
2. Euthanasia
3. Fetal Stem Cell Research
4. Human Cloning
5. Homosexual "Marriage"

the apostate john kerry disqualifies himself on each of the 5.

22 posted on 04/11/2004 10:24:22 PM PDT by cpforlife.org (The Missing Key of the Pro-Life Movement is at www.CpForLife.org)
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To: Coleus
BTTT
23 posted on 04/11/2004 10:25:20 PM PDT by Fiddlstix (This Tagline for sale. (Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: Coleus
Thank you for the link to the Archdiocese. I just sent them a letter. I ought to post it here so maybe others will also send their thought to the Archbishop.

Someone has to wake them up to the travesty. Kerry is all my family is talking about. Why do they have to abide by church law when he doesn't?
24 posted on 04/11/2004 11:07:24 PM PDT by Seniram US
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To: nickcarraway
The doctrine of transubstantiation exists in the Catholic Church. For sure the faithful hold that the eucharist becomes the flesh of Jesus and wine becomes his blood. Martin Luther rejected that notion, suggesting that the wine and the eucharist merely represent the body and blood of Jesus.

As Kerry took communion in a place other than a Catholic Church, the representation of the eucharist wasn't the same by the offerer. Does one's faith alone cause transubstantiation, or is it effected by the priest? If it is the latter, then a case could be made that Kerry really never received Catholic communion, and his soul is in no danger.

25 posted on 04/11/2004 11:10:25 PM PDT by Sgt_Schultze
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To: PattonReincarnated
How dare you slander sewers everywhere?
26 posted on 04/12/2004 1:31:22 AM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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To: Sgt_Schultze
The Eucharist is effected by the words of the priest. It is an objective reality, independent of the state of mind of anyone present.
27 posted on 04/12/2004 1:35:26 AM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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To: Seniram US
I e-mailed this Fr. Ardis, giving him a piece of my mind, etc., but he evidently ignored my rant, according to AOL. I should have known, he's a Boston priest -- they're a different breed, I guess.
28 posted on 04/12/2004 2:15:48 AM PDT by IrishRainy
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To: LasVegasMac; cpforlife.org
This is the directive from the Vatican regarding politics and Catholicism.
"This Note is directed to the Bishops of the Catholic Church and, in a particular way, to Catholic politicians and all lay members of the faithful called to participate in the political life of democratic societies."
DOCTRINAL NOTE
on some questions regarding
The Participation of Catholics in Political Life
http://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/congregations/cfaith/documents/rc_con_cfaith_doc_20021124_politica_en.html
29 posted on 04/12/2004 3:46:02 AM PDT by visualops (Help cure FReepathons....become a monthly donor!!)
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To: Coleus
Kerry is being obedient to his bishop, who says it's OK for him to receive communion.

Your argument is with the majority of American bishops who say it's OK to be pro-abortion, or who are silent.

30 posted on 04/12/2004 3:49:10 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Now you go feed those hogs before they worry themselves into anemia!)
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To: ArrogantBustard
The Archdiocese of Boston is the moral equivalent of a sewer.

There are two American bishops who have said they would refuse Kerry communion.

There are more than two who have said they would not, including Kerry's own bishop. Most are silent. When Kerry is President, that will not be an option.

It's not just Boston.

31 posted on 04/12/2004 3:52:19 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Now you go feed those hogs before they worry themselves into anemia!)
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To: Seniram US
Kerry is all my family is talking about. Why do they have to abide by church law when he doesn't?

Confessors can be pretty tough on scared little girls who have abortions.

What about those who make it possible?

32 posted on 04/12/2004 3:55:52 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Now you go feed those hogs before they worry themselves into anemia!)
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To: LasVegasMac
How did your mom answer your questions?
33 posted on 04/12/2004 4:08:27 AM PDT by 7thson (I think it takes a big dog to weigh a hundred pounds!)
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To: Coleus; dubyaismypresident; secret garden; hobbes1
a kind of New Age church that describes itself as "a worship community of Christians in the Roman Catholic tradition" and that attracts people drawn to its dedication to "family religious education and social justice."

also known as RC-lite....

34 posted on 04/12/2004 4:09:53 AM PDT by xsmommy
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To: Coleus
Senator John Kerry received communion at Easter services today at the Paulist Center here, a kind of New Age church that describes itself as "a worship community of Christians in the Roman Catholic tradition"...

He and his wife, Teresa Heinz Kerry, are regular worshipers at the Paulist Center, which is near their home on Beacon Hill.

The picture is becoming clearer.

Archbishop O'Malley should drive the Paulists out of his diocese like St. Patrick drove the snakes out of Ireland.

35 posted on 04/12/2004 4:14:07 AM PDT by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: Jim Noble
Confessors can be pretty tough on scared little girls who have abortions

Project Rachel is a Catholic program for women who have had abortions. maybe in the olden days confessors would be tough. the Catholic church has very few TOUGH anything anymore. everything is touchy feely now. Our pastor IS one of the tough guys (he spent much of yesterday's sermon commenting on how full the church was of those that show up only on Easter and Christmas) and he is disliked for precisely that reason. People do not want to hear about RIGHT and WRONG, Good and Evil. and the Catholic Church does very little of calling a spade a spade. witness the atrocity of letting Kerry receive communion.

36 posted on 04/12/2004 4:16:41 AM PDT by xsmommy
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To: Coleus
the Paulist Center here, a kind of New Age church that describes itself as "a worship community of Christians in the Roman Catholic tradition"

when even the NYTimes calls your church a "new age church", you know they aren't Christian...

37 posted on 04/12/2004 4:21:06 AM PDT by LadyDoc (liberals only love politically correct poor people)
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To: ArrogantBustard
The Archdiocese of Boston is the moral equivalent of a sewer.

Believe it or not, it's not all bad. The Paulists are the worst. They're a group that hasn't left the '60s. They're holed up in a bookstore/church in downtown Boston. I don't know a lot of what goes on at the archdiocesan level, but I know some good people associated with the archdiocese from the pro-life movement. From some friends who were rejected from a couple of seminaries here, it appears that the seminaries are heterodox and have been infiltrated by homosexuals, to a significant degree.

At the lay level, every parish seems to have a good sized group of solid parishioners. As you move toward the Easter/Christmas crowd, orthodoxy diminishes. I suspect that more than half of the parishioners support abortion and homosexual "marriage."

Then you have the city enclaves of greater fidelity to the Church's teachings, like the Irish in Dorchester, the Portugeuse in Fall River and the Italians in the South End, but these neighborhoods appear to be gentrifying.

38 posted on 04/12/2004 4:22:01 AM PDT by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: Seniram US
Glad you wrote to them.

I think the bishops are probably standing around wringing their hands and twittering right now. They know, deep down inside, that they can't let him publicly flaunt church teaching (and virtually boast about it afterwards). But they're scared.

Some of them may also be like your mother, such devoted Dems that their "faith" in the party trumps their religious faith, but I think a lot of them are scared, and writing to them might help give them a collective backbone.
39 posted on 04/12/2004 4:36:53 AM PDT by livius
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To: LasVegasMac
I have two children. Ages 10 and 6. Both adopted. They are my heart and soul. I cannot imagine my life without these two gifts from God.

Bless you.

And I thank God, many times every day, that their biological mothers did not choose to commit the most horrific act I can think of.

It boggles the mind. And then to think that half of the "Catholics" in this country will vote for a guy who won't lift a finger to prevent little children from being dismembered in their mothers' wombs.

40 posted on 04/12/2004 4:41:45 AM PDT by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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