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To: vanderleun
Good article.
To: vanderleun; Vision Thing
After reading this, I had to restrain myself from wishing for a San Onofre explosion and a wind to blow the fumes northward. But I have to remind myself that you and other conservatives are still there in OC, fighting the good fight, no matter how badly you're being beaten by the cool fools. After reading your post, I could almost vomit.
I personally know of three young men, all pretty cool friends of mine that I went through school with, all from "affluent" Orange County, and as I did, they *joined* the army, one went into the Marines, and all went to Vietnam.
One was only in country for about two weeks, we believe a grenade of some type was thrown from a passing vehicle landing right on his back while his platoon was taking a break along side a road, his entire lower spine was exposed and his kidneys and other vital organs were hang out. He laid there in shock, asking how bad he was, and if he was going to be alright, as he started going in and out of consciousness, he was nervously told by his buddy's he would be OK. He obviously died, never made it to the field hospital.
The other cool friend of mine from Orange Country was on routine patrol, and was shot through the throat and died within three minutes. He only had 3 months of his tour left.
My third cool friend from Orange county was a on a chopper, heading to a military hospital. He that had already been hit by small arms fire and was wounded in both arms. After being airlifted out, the chopper got about a quarter mile away, and was blown out of the sky by a rocket. All on 5 on board died.
One of my best buddy's, another cool brat from Orange County was lucky.
It's believed a mortar exploded about 30 feet from him, a piece of shrapnel entered the outer edge of one of his eyes, popping his eye right out of the socket, and was hanging down around his cheek, bleeding real bad, as he was being taken to an LZ clearing to get a ride out, they had to clip his optic nerved, (cut it off) and tie it off to help save him. He survived and still wears an eye patch to this day. His glass eye never looked right, makes him look crazy.
It isn't, in any real sense, their war. War isn't being asked of us or the affluent kids of Orange County, nor does it seem likely to be. Besides, war isn't what they're into.
I cringe when I hear statements like this.
35 posted on
04/11/2004 3:25:11 PM PDT by
Joe Hadenuf
(I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
To: vanderleun
Rich kids no longer have this calling. Instead they wander on in their extended childhood though college. Then they drift into the arena where all they will have will be a six-figure income and a few "great moments at work." They will learn, if they do not already know, how to play golf and how to drive themselves deep into "middle management." In time, they will form one or two or more families in one or two or more cities or suburbs. Their roots will be shallow, but they will take lots of interesting two-week vacations to comfortable enclaves in Europe or pacified third-world countries. Towards the end, they'll spend a lot on cruise ships where they will be treated 'like royalty.' They'll acquire real estate and hope for "a nice appreciation ride." I think they'll find that the gravy train of Big Daddy's coattails will run dry a lot sooner than they think.
37 posted on
04/11/2004 3:42:19 PM PDT by
Euro-American Scum
(A poverty-stricken middle class must be a disarmed middle class)
To: vanderleun; Travis McGee; Squantos; Lurker; Poohbah
Spot On!
Should be required reading in every High School in the country....
Semper Fi
39 posted on
04/11/2004 3:50:49 PM PDT by
river rat
(You may turn the other cheek -- but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
To: vanderleun
This photo has the poignancy of the flag raising at Iwo Jima, should be made into a memorial statue...
41 posted on
04/11/2004 4:15:44 PM PDT by
etcetera
To: vanderleun; 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
"The photograph was taken in a hanger at a military base. It shows a group of young, uncool American Marines kneeling in a tight circle on the ground in prayer. Prayer. How totally uncool. "...and to add to the 'uncool'...at least two of the Marines kneeling in Prayer....are Medics. Who have probably just done everything they could...ranted..raved...yelled...pleaded...for that young Marine to live.
....and all the time while doing so (I can guarantee this....I've 'been there') they were Praying just as hard and fast as they could.
And in the end...that young Marine could have NO BETTER last vision of this Earth than those men gathered around him.
Happy Easter.
redrock
43 posted on
04/11/2004 4:24:10 PM PDT by
redrock
("One man with courage....makes a majority"---Andrew Jackson)
To: vanderleun
Btt.
49 posted on
04/11/2004 5:04:51 PM PDT by
Rocko
(GWB: "Release the pdb in pdf, asap and pdq; I'm tired of all this bs from the sobs @ the DNC.")
To: vanderleun
Thanks for a most interesting post - good job with it.
Cheers.
53 posted on
04/11/2004 5:23:31 PM PDT by
lodwick
(Wake up, America!)
To: vanderleun
Very well done. This is one of the reasons I come to FR.
55 posted on
04/11/2004 5:30:10 PM PDT by
Big Horn
(A waist is a terrible thing to mind.)
To: vanderleun
stellar
57 posted on
04/11/2004 5:35:13 PM PDT by
dennisw
(“We'll put a boot in your ass, it's the American way.” - Toby Keith)
To: vanderleun
Wonderful writing.
I absolutely abhor the culture of "cool." Maturity, etiquette, manners, and order have no meaning to the hedonistic fascists of our time.
58 posted on
04/11/2004 5:36:52 PM PDT by
MegaSilver
(Surrexit Christus)
To: vanderleun
Great writing.
I've e-mailed it around my lists.
61 posted on
04/11/2004 6:02:11 PM PDT by
Gritty
("We are not fighting so that you will offer us something. We are fighting to eliminate you"-Hezbolla)
To: vanderleun
The American culture of cool has become a nation apart, an alternate-America that looks to the real America as merely some mechanism set up to deliver the many features and benefits of America to the culture of cool
Edwards is right, there are two Americas, he just doesn't know what they are.
64 posted on
04/11/2004 7:21:18 PM PDT by
visualops
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To: TheStickman
ping
65 posted on
04/11/2004 7:21:43 PM PDT by
visualops
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To: vanderleun
Great post thanks!
67 posted on
04/11/2004 7:35:56 PM PDT by
Rummyfan
To: vanderleun
Just excellent! Thanks for posting!!!!
72 posted on
04/11/2004 8:08:05 PM PDT by
lainde
(Heads up...We're coming and we've got tongue blades!!)
To: vanderleun
i just realized YOU wrote this. It's so eloquent and insightful! Kudos!
73 posted on
04/11/2004 8:12:24 PM PDT by
lainde
(Heads up...We're coming and we've got tongue blades!!)
To: nutmeg
bttt
78 posted on
04/11/2004 9:07:15 PM PDT by
nutmeg
(Why vote for Bush? Imagine Commander in Chief John F’in al-Qerry)
To: vanderleun
You did a nice job of telling it like it is.A sad and maddening picture (to say the least!) that most here seem to agree with,including me.
The arguing would start however,when you attempt to say why it is like this.At that point,many who consider themselves conservatives would be as far apart from each other as cool is from uncool.
God bless
81 posted on
04/11/2004 9:36:26 PM PDT by
mitch5501
(by the grace of God,I am what I am)
To: vanderleun
That's just about the best-written, overwrought, hand-wringing piece of petulant peregrination I've ever had the displeasure to read.
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