Posted on 04/10/2004 8:53:44 AM PDT by Polycarp IV
Chicago cardinal would not withhold Eucharist
Chicago, Apr. 09 (CWNews.com) - Cardinal Francis George of Chicago has announced that he will not deny the Eucharist to Catholic politicians who support abortion, according to an AP report.
Cardinal George reportedly said that he was considering an appropriate response to prominent Catholic political leaders who violate Church teachings on issues such as abortion, homosexuality, and euthanasia. He indicated that he is waiting for recommendations from a task force set up by the US bishops' conference to consider that problem.
The cardinal's statement was triggered by questions that have come to the fore with the emergence of Senator John Kerry as the Democratic presidential candidate. Kerry, who is a Catholic, is a stalwart supporter of legalized abortion on demand.
Archbishop Raymond Burke of St. Louis has indicated that he would not allow Kerry to receive the Eucharist because of his flagrant and public violation of Church teachings. In Boston-- Kerry's own archdiocese-- Archbishop Sean O'Malley has indicated that politicians who flout Church teachings should not receive Communion. But the Boston archbishop has not indicated that he would deny the Eucharist to Kerry or other pro-abortion politicians.
You know it, and I know it, so why don't they just get it the hell overwith. Maybe they're waiting for summer. I hate to say it, but the chances of anything happening are 1 in 100.
I have made no comments (I don't think) about Senator Kerry's case as to whether or not his marriage to Julia Thorne was sacramental or not.
I am in the position of being divorced and remarried to a Roman Catholic, I know quite a bit about the annulment story and the process.
I am sceptical that there are 40 000 invalid marriages rightly discerned per year, and I think that the success rate of annulment petitions suggests that the outcome is to some degree predetermined.
But as to Kerry's case, I really have no idea.
Absolutely. This will do more damage to the Church than the priest-shuffling scandal. It will also cost the lives of millions of unborn children.
Did he follow Bill's practice of deducting his and Hill's donation of old underwear?
My parents marriage was annulled and it never crossed my mind that I was illegitimate. It is ridiculous on it's face to insist that I am bastard because my parents marriage was not a sacramental marriage. The only one calling people bastards is you. That annulment was a great comfort to my parents. It meant both of them could return to the sacraments. My father believed he had an obligation to try for an annulment so he could return to the Church if at all possible. I personally think it would be wrong not to at lest try to see if you can get back to the state of grace. I believe every divorced Catholic who has a desire to remarry has an obligation to see if they qualify for an annulment.
Oh sure you hear stories of people who are bitter because their former spouse wanted an annulment and got it. Why would that bother them? Would they rather be out of the Church or in the Church? Would they rather their former spouse be out of the Church or in the Church? If you don't WANT to even try for an annulment, you don't want to go back to the Church and evidently don't want your former spouse to either. What.... is it better to stay bitter, out of the Church and unforgiving of your former spouse? That does not seem very virtuous to me.
If you look up the conditions for the granting of a declaration of nullity, you'll find that the conditions are similarly reasonable. The conditions include the intention to remain married (not the intention to bail if the marriage becomes inconvenient) and being open to having children. Both of these conditions are understandable. It's also understandable that the intentions of many couples in our selfish age do not meet these conditions.
Diocese gives nod for Kerry to receive Eucharist
Posted by delacoert
On News/Activism 04/10/2004 10:40:32 AM PDT with 14 comments
The Boston Herald ^ | April 10, 2004 | Eric ConveyChicago cardinal [George] would not withhold Eucharist [Kerry]
Posted by Polycarp IV
On News/Activism 04/10/2004 8:53:44 AM PDT with 63 comments
CWNews.com ^ | Apr. 09 | CWNews.comDiocese gives nod for Kerry to receive Eucharist
Posted by Fifthmark
On Religion 04/10/2004 8:39:21 AM PDT with 6 comments
The Boston Herald ^ | April 10, 2004 | Eric ConveyChicago Cardinal would not withhold Eucharist
Posted by Canticle_of_Deborah
On Religion 04/09/2004 4:15:11 PM PDT with 16 comments
CWNews ^ | April 9, 2003Bishop Bruskewitz will deny Kerry the Eucharist
Posted by johnb2004
On Religion 04/07/2004 10:39:21 AM PDT with 33 comments
www.renewamerica.us ^ | April 6, 2004 | Barbara Kralis
When the husband got the "hots for a new babe" was he married to your friend? In other words did he leave her for the new babe? If not, if he met the woman later and wanter to marry her in the Church, her whole arguement is just one of bitterness. What in the world is WRONG with someone trying to get back into the state of grace if they can?
I can see refusal to have children as a more reasonable cause for annulment than the excuse that a baby was on the way when the wedding happened. I knew a couple where the husband got a vasectomy without the wife's knowledge after they had several kids --- she was angry and hurt but they didn't divorce.
Why all the bitterness? Why not just be grateful to be able grateful to be able to go back to the sacraments. Annulments are not blame game events. How stupid to make them so.
I can think of several shotgun weddings where the couple and the marriage was miserable. Very miserable. And I mean totally miserable. Like they HATE each other miserable.
Who's bitter? I'm not involved in any annulment or remarriage or any of that. But can you imagine being a person who believed they were married for many years, bore or supported kids with someone, and then when that someone wants to move on because they found someone else to marry they not only leave you but get the Church to say your marriage was all a big joke --- that it never happened? You can receive the sacraments with a civil divorce and no annulment.
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