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Iraqi allies warn US over Falluja (described as genocide" )
BBC ^ | 10 April, 2004

Posted on 04/09/2004 5:58:30 PM PDT by traumer

Members of Iraq's US-appointed governing council have condemned the US military operation in Falluja after four days of bitter fighting. One member described the operation as "genocide" after doctors in the Sunni Muslim city of 300,000 reported 450 deaths and 1,000 injured this week.

The fugitive leader of the country's parallel Shia unrest has demanded the withdrawal of troops from Iraq.

The US has declared a truce in Falluja but fighting continued as night fell.

We went into pause but the enemy kept attacking us on the western side of the city - Maj Pete Farnum, US marine officer

Late on Friday, two US soldiers were reported missing following an ambush on their convoy west of Baghdad.

An American military spokesman said the incident happened near Baghdad International Airport around midnight local time.

Falluja fighting

Gunfire and mortar blasts echoed across Falluja, and a marine officer who spoke to AFP news agency on condition of anonymity predicted it would "get worse before it gets better".

Another officer, Maj Pete Farnum, said his men had tried to keep the noon (0800 GMT) truce on Friday but attacks by militants had not eased.

"We went into pause but the enemy kept attacking us on the western side of the city," he said. "We had to defend ourselves so we asked for permission to return to offensive operation. This was granted."

However, the ferocity of the battle for the city appeared to have eased since the US administrator in Iraq, Paul Bremer, announced the 24-hour truce to allow for peace talks.

US troops are said to be allowing women and children to leave the city but are stopping men as they search for suspects in the killing and horrific mutilation of four American security guards in Falluja at the end of March.

Coalition lashed

Ghazi Ajil al-Yawer, a Sunni Muslim member of the Iraqi Governing Council (IGC), said he was ready to resign if the US did not seek a peaceful solution to the crisis in Falluja.

IRAQ ONE YEAR ON CASUALTIES US military deaths since 'major combat over' on May 1 2003: At least 514 Other coalition deaths: At least 67 Total reported Iraqi civilian deaths: Estimates from 8,865 to 10,715 * COST $33bn allocated so far for reconstruction RECONSTRUCTION ** More than 200,000 recruited to Iraqi security forces Oil exports up to 1.8m barrels a day, against 2m pre-war Electricity back to pre-war levels 51 million new "Baath-free" textbooks in schools 170 newspapers in print FORMER REGIME 46 of 55 'most wanted' captured or killed, including Saddam Sources: * Iraqi Body Count, to 8/04/2004 ** Coalition Provisional Authority

Viewpoints on war Reconstruction progress "How can a superpower like the US put itself in a state of war with a small city like Falluja? This is genocide," he told AFP news agency on Friday, the first anniversary of the fall of Saddam Hussein.

Fellow IGC member Adnan Pachachi said the Falluja offensive was "illegal and totally unacceptable" whilst Kurdish IGC member Mahmoud Uthman described US policy as counter-productive.

The Iraqi interim Human Rights Minister, Abdel Basit Turki, and a member of the Iraqi Governing Council's rotating presidency, Iyad Allawi, both resigned on Friday without giving a reason for their decision.

Moqtada Sadr, the radical cleric whose followers have been directing violent unrest in Shia areas since Sunday, has demanded the withdrawal of coalition troops from Iraq.

Speaking in a sermon read out at Friday Prayers by an aide in the town of Kufa, he said US President George W Bush could no longer point to Saddam Hussein or weapons of mass destruction as reasons to be in Iraq.

"You are now fighting an entire nation, from south to north, from east to west, and we advise you to withdraw from Iraq," said Mr Sadr, who is the subject of a coalition arrest warrant.

'Serious' threat

President Bush has been consulting other coalition leaders by telephone, speaking to Italian Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi, Polish President Aleksander Kwasniewski and El Salvadoran President Francisco Flores.

A senior US commander, Brigadier General Mark Kimmitt, said in Baghdad that operations to quell Shia unrest were going well.

UK Foreign Secretary Jack Straw has said the coalition is facing its "most serious" threat since the end of the war.

The US has reported the deaths of at least 42 of its soldiers in combat since Sunday and militants are holding a number of foreign nationals hostage, including three Japanese citizens, two Palestinians and a Canadian.

Russia has called on the sides in Iraq to show restraint and warned of "an impending humanitarian disaster" in Falluja.


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: fallujah; igc; iraq; muslims; vigilantresolve
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too late
1 posted on 04/09/2004 5:58:30 PM PDT by traumer
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No, what Saddam did to his own people was a humanitarian disaster. This is not a disaster, it's war.
2 posted on 04/09/2004 6:02:40 PM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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To: traumer
We're killing lots of bad guys. That means we should give up?
3 posted on 04/09/2004 6:02:52 PM PDT by EternalHope (Boycott everything French forever. Including their vassal nations.)
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This is pure propoganda and grandstanding.

If it were genocide, our Marines would not be in the city and we would have firbombed the entire place, leaving tens of thousands dead and only rubble standing.

In World War II, we did just that, over and over again, to break the will of and utterly defeat our enemies and the populations who harbored and supported them...and to preserve American lives.

We are showing remarkable restraint...in fact, far too much restraint IMHO...to enemies and the populations who are harboring them. Give the people who desirte it 48 hours to either defeat the terrorists and insurgents themselves or to exit the city...then lay waste to the place.

4 posted on 04/09/2004 6:04:02 PM PDT by Jeff Head
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To: EternalHope
John F'n Kerry evidently thinks so;)
5 posted on 04/09/2004 6:05:07 PM PDT by Frank_2001
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To: traumer
I thought genocide was against a race. This is a group of terrorists.
6 posted on 04/09/2004 6:05:37 PM PDT by freeangel (freeangel)
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To: traumer
3000 dead at the World Trade Center....don't lecture US about genocide!
7 posted on 04/09/2004 6:07:31 PM PDT by Frank_2001
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To: traumer
Their religious leaders have given them permission to mutilate.

They are firing AK's and RPG's at our soldiers.

They use innocent civilians as propaganda in their media machine.

...and we're the one's who are committing genocide.
8 posted on 04/09/2004 6:07:42 PM PDT by baltodog ("Never feel sorry for a man who owns his own plane.")
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To: traumer
This here is a nice slight of hand...

"Estimates from 8,865 to 10,715 *"

And what source is cited for this estimate?

"* Iraqi Body Count, to 8/04/2004"

What kind of source is that? I'll tell you what kind, it's a far left website called iraqibodycount.com. Of course the BBS doesn't see fit to tell the truth on this matter and with good reason.
9 posted on 04/09/2004 6:07:49 PM PDT by Texas_Jarhead
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To: EternalHope
those 'people' are crooked cry-babies....
Rascals
10 posted on 04/09/2004 6:08:25 PM PDT by traumer
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We ought to be using trash trucks to pick up islamist dead.
11 posted on 04/09/2004 6:09:41 PM PDT by SevenDaysInMay (Federal judges and justices serve for periods of good behavior, not life. Article III sec. 1)
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Where were all these heroes when Saddam and the boys were committing mass rape, murder and theft?

Genocide my ass.

12 posted on 04/09/2004 6:10:00 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: Frank_2001
"How can a superpower like the US put itself in a state of war with a small city like Falluja? This is genocide," he told AFP....

13 posted on 04/09/2004 6:10:09 PM PDT by traumer
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To: traumer
The USMC was deployed to Falujah months ago. For a reason. The bad-guys are tasting the USMC and are crying mercy via their propaganda wings.

Now is not the time for us at home to go wobbly.
14 posted on 04/09/2004 6:11:19 PM PDT by Spruce (why does my spell-check want me to capitalize france?)
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Here we have Fallujah as 300K. I see 500K, 200K. Which is it, anybody know? Because if MOST Fallujans have evacuated (say 80%) by, say Wednesday, then I would be OK with a Dresden. But not before.
15 posted on 04/09/2004 6:11:37 PM PDT by txhurl (The Jihadists: spectacular media violence, zero military significance, huge psych significance.)
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To: traumer
I thought they fired the lying leftist managment and "journalists" at BBC...
They overlooked a few...

I hope most folks are able to see through the extreme bias of some news sources----Reuters, BBC, ABC, CBS, CNN, NBC etc.....

Semper Fi
16 posted on 04/09/2004 6:13:30 PM PDT by river rat (You may turn the other cheek -- but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: river rat
AFP = Agence France-Presse

makes sense...
17 posted on 04/09/2004 6:14:55 PM PDT by traumer
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To: traumer
During OIF, ships of the Royal Navy banned BBC brodcasts citing 'enemy propoganda'.
18 posted on 04/09/2004 6:15:04 PM PDT by Spruce (why does my spell-check want me to capitalize france?)
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To: Spruce
OIF ? Falkland Islands ??
19 posted on 04/09/2004 6:16:57 PM PDT by traumer
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To: Spruce
It is difficult to take serious the genocide assertions from other Arabs who said not one damn thing to Saddam the benefactor when he was committing it on the Marsh Arabs and the Kurds! The French are so ... french.
20 posted on 04/09/2004 6:21:08 PM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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