[discostu]

What I said, multiple times, is that restrictions need to be carefully considered. Because profitable corporations are a vital ingredient of a healthy economy we have to make sure our restrictions still allow business to be successful. Offshoring shows us that if business can't be successful in America they'll leave, that's because business is about money, corporations exist for profit. In a perfect world maybe corporations would be into things like nationalism and loyalty, but like the Walgreens commercials say "we're a long way from perfect". Out here in reality corporations exist for the sole purpose of making a profit, that is their only duty. This doesn't mean they should be restricted, but the restrictions have to be smart.

You've got to think restrictions through, understand their impact on business, understand business' ability to go elsewhere, understand cost of compliance. Look at Ann Richard's environmental laws when she was governor of Texas compared to Bush's. Ann's laws were much more restrictive, but the cost of compliance was too high and it didn't make economic sense for businesses to follow the law, because of that Texas became the most poluted state in the union. Bush came in, lowered the laws to make it cheaper to obey, increased the fines so they'd be higher than cost of compliance, and it became profitable to obey the law and Texas was rewarded twice for having he most improved environmental quality. Any kind of restriction on business has the ability to be like Ann's or be like Bush's, there's also a third possibility of just driving business away. Only one of those three options is the right one. The other two is what I'm arguing against.

When I said corporations only duty is to profit I was simply explaining one of the oldest truisms of capitalist life. Thomas Jefferson understood that merchants have no loyalty to the ground they stand on and are only loyal to the ground they earn on. That's the simple truth, anybody expecting a corporation to be loyal to a country just because that's where their articles of incorporation are stored might as well expect rain to be dry. Corporations are loyal to profit, that is why they are made, that is why they exist, that is their sole purpose throughout their lifespan. Don't like it? Too bad. Don't blame me for it, I didn't make the rules I'm just quoting them.

And that is what I've been saying all along, but because you rely entirely on pre-packaged insults I still don't expect you to get it.

[Petronski]

Get a load of this guy!

[XBob]

709 - "What I said, multiple times, is that restrictions need to be carefully considered."

what you actually said was:

"698 "I NEVER said there should be no restrictions period. Never, not once, not even close to it."


504 - "The people ... What is a corporation's duty to them? Corporations have a duty to investors and share holder, and nobody else. Deal with it.
504 posted on 04/12/2004 4:05:49 PM CDT by discostu "

[XBob]

709 - "You've got to think restrictions through, understand their impact on business, understand business' ability to go elsewhere, understand cost of compliance. "

Now, show me just where you have said that previously, in all your posts on this thread?, or any thread for that matter, I haven't read them all.

[XBob]

709 - "Look at Ann Richard's environmental laws when she was governor of Texas compared to Bush's. Ann's laws were much more restrictive, but the cost of compliance was too high and it didn't make economic sense for businesses to follow the law,"

Ah, here you advocate breaking the laws to make a profit.

Great 'responsibility'.

Not changing the laws, but breaking the laws.

[XBob]

709 - "merchants have no loyalty to the ground they stand on and are only loyal to the ground they earn on. That's the simple truth, anybody expecting a corporation to be loyal to a country just because that's where their articles of incorporation are stored might as well expect rain to be dry. Corporations are loyal to profit, "

Then, as corporations have no loyalty to anyone, or any country, they have no right to be here, or to suck off us, and have our support and defense, and must shoulder these costs themselves.

And they also have no 'right' to sell their products here, so, the corporations should be forced out, and overseas, so we can have entities here which support our country and provide a benefit to our society.