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To: discostu
I cited what you said and anyone here can go back and read through the arguments and get to the same point I did rather easily. It's when you start making mutually exclusive statements as though they were fact that you're getting yourself in trouble. IE - that companies have no duty to anyone or anything but to profit. It's the same argumentation line your compadres got tripped up in the other night - exactly the same - and you walked right down the rosey path just like a sport. Problem is your unethical arguments and positions are, at this point, predictable.

See the whole point of saying that companies owe to nothing but profits is to hope someone will buy it and leave them alone to do what they will. Just like you're friends argue it from the more direct approach. Your position is to try and convince people that outsourcing is just another way of getting profit and that ethics should not be a hindrance to those profits. That is the free trade mantra. It isn't right to regulate; so, don't cause it isn't right.. Don't do anything to stop the great god, profit.

519 posted on 04/12/2004 3:25:44 PM PDT by Havoc ("The line must be drawn here. This far and no further!")
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To: Havoc
yeah you did cite what I said, and it clearly showed you'd taken my position to a silly extreme. I never said companies should be allowed to murder people, that's stupid.

There's nothing mutually exclussive about the statement that the only duty of corporations is profit. For one thing there's only one clause in that statement and mutual exclussion assumes multiple clauses. Now YOUR idea that they also have a duty to some ethical code you seem to make up on the spot can be mutually exclussive, profit and ethics don't always mix and investors want their money back. Knowing that the company they sank millions into went bankrupt doing the right thing is cold comfort.

No the whole point of saying that companies sole duty is profit is pointing out a painfully obvious truth that anyone that's ever taken a business class shouldn't need to be told. My position is to point out that if a company feels it needs to outsource to remain profitable then people are going to be losing their jobs one way or the other, either to local competition (not all outsourcing is overseas you see), overseas competition, or the won't be replaced at all. Business is about balance sheets and most of the time ethics don't show up on the P&L statement (most of the time, sometimes they do, this is a good thing because they're more often P than L).

You know what happens when you stop the great god profit? Recession. Bad for everybody. Stop the great god profit hard enough and recessions grows into it's nastier brother depression. Really bad for everybody.
521 posted on 04/12/2004 3:50:49 PM PDT by discostu (Brick urgently required, must be thick and well kept)
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