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yeah you did cite what I said, and it clearly showed you'd taken my position to a silly extreme. I never said companies should be allowed to murder people, that's stupid.

There's nothing mutually exclussive about the statement that the only duty of corporations is profit. For one thing there's only one clause in that statement and mutual exclussion assumes multiple clauses. Now YOUR idea that they also have a duty to some ethical code you seem to make up on the spot can be mutually exclussive, profit and ethics don't always mix and investors want their money back. Knowing that the company they sank millions into went bankrupt doing the right thing is cold comfort.

No the whole point of saying that companies sole duty is profit is pointing out a painfully obvious truth that anyone that's ever taken a business class shouldn't need to be told. My position is to point out that if a company feels it needs to outsource to remain profitable then people are going to be losing their jobs one way or the other, either to local competition (not all outsourcing is overseas you see), overseas competition, or the won't be replaced at all. Business is about balance sheets and most of the time ethics don't show up on the P&L statement (most of the time, sometimes they do, this is a good thing because they're more often P than L).

You know what happens when you stop the great god profit? Recession. Bad for everybody. Stop the great god profit hard enough and recessions grows into it's nastier brother depression. Really bad for everybody.

yeah you did cite what I said, and it clearly showed you'd taken my position to a silly extreme. I never said companies should be allowed to murder people, that's stupid.

No, it isn't. And it's not an unreasonable conclusion to draw. You started with the mutual exclusive that business owes to nothing but profit. Nothing. Nothing is mutually exclusive - it excludes all but the primary concern: profit. It is therefore an entirely reasonable conclusion that excluding all other concerns means ALL other concerns. Your words. I didn't choose them, you did. And your buddies on here have been more honest about it to the extent of saying that hampering business' ability to make profit is an evil and should not be done. I've given you every opportunity to correct yourself; but, you won't disclaim the notion on your own that putting restrictions on business' abiltity to make profit is within our right. I have yet to see you admit that. And that is the issue on which your whole argument rises or falls before the ethical considerations are actually weighed. It isn't necessary for you to admit it, there is already public record showing it not only our right; but, a right previously excersized and enforced. That means your pretty well buggered to begin with.