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WHY IS THE WEST LOSING THE WAR ON TERROR?
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| 4/7/04
| Srdja Trifkovic
Posted on 04/09/2004 9:01:43 AM PDT by philosofy123
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To: philosofy123
WHY IS THE WEST LOSING THE WAR ON TERROR? Those who read the article in its entirety will have to agree with its premises and conclusions, I think. The answer to the question posed by the title is this: we are losing the war on terror because we are civilized and they are not. And we both act accordingly. It is an asymmetrical event. Until we take the gloves of civilization off (and when it gets bad enough, we will, and so will even the pussified French) and hold the Dome of the Rock, Medina and Mecca hostage, we will continue to have the same success with Islamic terror as one would if he tried to push back the ocean tide with a broom.
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posted on
04/09/2004 9:27:39 AM PDT
by
Migraine
(my grain is pretty straight today)
To: junta
You are correct 100%
Very few people understand Islam, and its evil mission more than this writer - he is the author of the Sword of Islam, one of the best document on the subject.
To: philosofy123
Radical Islam is an insane murder cult, "moderate" Islam is its Trojan Horse in the West.
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posted on
04/09/2004 9:29:20 AM PDT
by
Travis McGee
(----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
To: philosofy123
---When it came to the secondary issues of specific policies, the most important of allIsraelwas strangely absent from the Commissions deliberations. Different aspects of the U.S. policy in the Middle East were mentioned in various testimonies, but nobody asked the one question that is the mother of all others: is Americas special relationship with Israel in any way connected to the terrorist threat? The bipartisan assumption was unstated but clear: the United States should continue to provide open-ended and near-unconditional support to Israel because our unsinkable aircraft carrier is at war with the same terrorists as us.
This may well be true, but an open-minded Commission should not assume a priori that it is true. It should look, without prejudice, into the possibility that a different, less passionate relationship would be beneficial to a long-term anti-terrorist strategy, by reducing the perception of a permanent American bias in Middle Eastern affairs that breeds rage that fuels terrorism. But just as it had failed to look into the option of denying Islamic fifth columnists a foothold at home, the Commission did not explore the ways to stop alienating over one billion Muslims abroad. The possibility that U.S. foreign policy should be reassessed in order to avoid creating conditions for specifically anti-American Islamic hostility was left untouched.---
Our Stalingrad will come if we dump Israel. Might as well turn the Capitol into a mosque and have done with it.
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posted on
04/09/2004 9:29:31 AM PDT
by
claudiustg
(Go Sharon! Go Bush!)
To: philosofy123
The question is, "What are the terrorists winning?" The answer is, not much.
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posted on
04/09/2004 9:29:35 AM PDT
by
Eva
To: philosofy123
OK, he knows his stuff A. Well then he knows we are in a religious war and not a conflict. It still points back to Israel, it always has and will. Lets take their temple down and rebuild the Jewish temple and let the battle begin. Islam is the religion created by the master deceiver. There is no love or understanding of fellow man. There is killing, torture, slavery, domination and oppression that is the backbone of Islam.
We will start a new Crusade only this Crusade will turn out a little different for the Islamists.
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posted on
04/09/2004 9:30:35 AM PDT
by
Lowell
(The return is near.)
To: r9etb
The author needs to by a few vowels.Sorry, couldn't resist!
;^)
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posted on
04/09/2004 9:31:09 AM PDT
by
Travis McGee
(----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
Comment #28 Removed by Moderator
To: boris
If I ever become president, you will be my national security advisor.
To: philosofy123
Put enough fear into Americans, and we'll round up muslims and put them in internment camps (over the howls of liberals). We won't lose.
As noted above, Europe is willing to lose.
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posted on
04/09/2004 9:32:29 AM PDT
by
Uncle Miltie
(If opposites attract, John Kerry must really like himself!)
To: Migraine
We've not even touched on the issue of the "Religion of Peace" in our WOT. In the Cold War we knew and said so that Communism was evil, but in the WOT against resurgent Islam we blather on about "Universal Principles" so as to not atagonize the Leftist fifth column and our soccer mom dead weights. Either Islam as it is configured is either a lie or it is the truth and calling it the ROP has no effect on the likes of Sadr or Osama who are at war with the infidel.
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posted on
04/09/2004 9:33:37 AM PDT
by
junta
To: philosofy123
bump
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posted on
04/09/2004 9:35:02 AM PDT
by
CGVet58
(God has granted us liberty, and we owe Him courage in return)
To: Travis McGee
Doh!!!! Talk about irony! LOL!!!
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posted on
04/09/2004 9:35:25 AM PDT
by
r9etb
To: Coop
Maybe you're right. I didn't get the idea that the author bothered about the distinction between regular/conventional forces and the criminal elements and stateless murderers, social debris and other arbitrary global malcontents who commit themselves to this movement. Terrorists (for now) have the edge because their anonymity and mobility permits them to maneuver past the traditional checks against organized crime. This will not last. These are the same people with the same tactics who have been terrorizing the Israelis since '48. However, the US and the coalition will not hold themselves to the same restraints in responding which have been forced on the Israelis over time. This, I think, is the textbook illustration of how little value appeasement really is and how really naive it has been to take that approach. (Also, I think that if we get really, really serious about our war on drugs, we can have success sooner rather than later. It's all of a piece.) We'll see.
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posted on
04/09/2004 9:36:46 AM PDT
by
SMARTY
To: SquirrelKing
Next time post a picture of Moshe Dayan, at least be semi- productive.
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posted on
04/09/2004 9:37:55 AM PDT
by
junta
To: Migraine
we are civilized and they are not. And we both act accordingly What a fantastic articulation. Another articulation yesterday from another FReeper: "The Moslem terrorists are simply following their Koran"!
To: r9etb
Yeah, that jmpd right out at me.
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posted on
04/09/2004 9:38:38 AM PDT
by
Travis McGee
(----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
To: Travis McGee
Another fantastic articulation! Thanks.
To: philosofy123
The goblins are scattered, many of their assets have been seized, their cash flow has been increasingly interrupted, their leaders have been killed or captured (more to come on that), and they are about to suffer a very "unconstitutional" backlash in Europe and Asia and have yet to pull off an encore of September 11.
They likely will succeed in making another spectacle, but just ponder that, even on September 11, how many airliners didn't crash, how many buildings didn't come down (the Pentagon was only damaged and still stands today), and, whenever they plan or attempt another attack, they leave themselves vulnerable to arrest, maiming (no paradaisical glory there) or death (Surprise!! No virgins!!), and risk having their organization(s) revealed, detected, and compromised every time they try to pull off another mass-murder event.
Airliners crash, buildings explode, trains are derailed, school buses fail to outrun trains, and innocents are murdered every day without help from the terrorists.
As I tried to state on a local (DC) radio talk show (before I was cut off) during the "sniper" days, a sane person and populace can remain sane and functional if and only if they put things into perspective re: the incidence of death from "un-natural causes" of all kinds.
Indeed, during the "sniper crisis," only thirteen persons were killed by Malvo and Mohamad over a period of three weeks, and the dynamic duo operated over an area that was home to nearly five million trembling people.
Thus, the chances of being "sniped" during that time of "terror" was 5,000,000 people/13 victims/21 days. This works out to a probability of about 1 in 18,315 of a person being nailed by the "snipers" on a given day during their "reign of terror."
A person in their area of operation was far more likely to die as a result of a traffic accident, a fire, a fall down the stairs, the actions of an angry relative or lover, botched medical care, a pit bull attack, a drive-by shooting (especially in DC), and many other causes that are with us 24/7/365 . Not that scary, eh? And consider the thousandsa that are killed in earthquakes somewhere every few months. What I do find unsettling is the erosion of physical and mental courage on the part of so many of my countrymen, as evidenced by our obsession with terrorism, death, and whether we again will allow four groups of virtually unarmed mongrels to crash four airliners while outnumber at a level of at least 25-to-1.
"If ye are prepared ye shall not fear"...............
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posted on
04/09/2004 9:40:11 AM PDT
by
tracer
To: Migraine
Exactly. When our back is to the wall, we will destroy what we must, even if it is whole cities.
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posted on
04/09/2004 9:40:24 AM PDT
by
Uncle Miltie
(If opposites attract, John Kerry must really like himself!)
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