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PAC's fund-raiser at church draws tax complaint
Houston Chronicle ^ | March 13, 2004 | Associated Press

Posted on 04/08/2004 8:31:54 PM PDT by YCTHouston

A religious liberty watchdog group accused the Westover Hills Church of Christ in Austin on Friday of violating Internal Revenue Service rules by allowing the Legacy Political Action Committee to hold a fund-raiser in its sanctuary.

Rob Boston, a spokesman for Americans United for Separation of Church and State, said the IRS Code prohibits tax-exempt organizations, including churches, from intervening in political campaigns. The group focuses on education on the separation of church and state.

A member of Legacy PAC, which supports anti-abortion candidates, said the church had nothing to do with the event.

"This was our event," Bill Crocker said. "The church didn't sponsor it in any way, shape or fashion." Crocker said the PAC rented the church.

He said some members of the church participated in the meeting, which he described as a "pro-life" rally. But he said no one participated in their official capacities with the church.

Boston said the Washington, D.C.-based watchdog group, filed the complaint with the IRS after receiving an e-mail describing the events.

William Pate, a student at St. Edward's University, attended the rally for a government class. He said the participants talked about raising $5,000 to elect Republicans and passed collection plates for donations.

"They were doing it in a church, it just seemed kind of weird to me," Pate said in an interview. "I thought I had read somewhere that was illegal."

Pate said there were no Democrats speaking. Crocker said the group is predominantly Republican but has some Democrats.

Chuck Wilson, an elder at the church, said various groups use the church.

"It was our understanding this was an open, nonpartisan gathering giving all candidates in attendance an opportunity to speak," Wilson said after speaking with church leaders. "It is not the intent of the church, nor did the church join in support or support the function. We only opened our doors to provide seating capacity. The building facility was used, but the church was not involved."

"To the best of our knowledge no collection was taken in the pews," said Wilson, who was not at the meeting.

Bruce Friedland, an IRS spokesman, said the agency is prohibited on commenting.

Ted Royer, a spokesman for the Republican Party of Texas, called the complaint an intimidation tactic.

"The goal of Americans United is to purge people of faith from politics and government and that's clearly what they're trying to do is intimidate religious people and dissuade them from participating in politics."

The Rev. Barry Lynn, the Americans United executive director, said he was shocked at the use of the church.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: austin; church; churchandstate; doublestandard; irs; legacypac; moneychangers; prolifepac; purge

1 posted on 04/08/2004 8:31:54 PM PDT by YCTHouston
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2 posted on 04/08/2004 8:35:26 PM PDT by YCTHouston
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3 posted on 04/08/2004 8:37:06 PM PDT by Support Free Republic (Your support keeps Free Republic going strong!)
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To: YCTHouston
As much as I hate Americans United for the Separation of Church and State, this group should have known better - I mean passing a collection plate for their PAC! Something about money changers in the temple comes to mind...
4 posted on 04/08/2004 8:44:56 PM PDT by GOPcapitalist
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To: YCTHouston
Liberals use churches all the time. They preach their vomit from the pulpits!

but if a conservative group even rents an empty church they get complaints...

5 posted on 04/08/2004 8:52:32 PM PDT by GeronL (Hey, I am on the internet. I have a right (cough, cough) to write stupid things.)
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To: GOPcapitalist
Yeah, we complain when the Dems do it, but if it's "our side..."

Seems like profaning the sanctuary to have a political fundraiser there. Mr. Crocker shouldn't have put the church in that position.

Money changers in the temple is dead on.
6 posted on 04/08/2004 8:52:41 PM PDT by YCTHouston
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To: GeronL
You're exactly right about the double standard. But that doesn't mean we have to lower our standards.
7 posted on 04/08/2004 8:54:42 PM PDT by YCTHouston
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To: YCTHouston
The dems do this all the time.
8 posted on 04/08/2004 9:00:47 PM PDT by Dan from Michigan ("...and tell our enemies that they may take our lives, but they'll never take...OUR FREEDOM")
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To: YCTHouston
"Money changers in the temple is dead on."

Do you even know what money changers were?

"Back then" only the official temple coin could be given as an offering. This coin was only available in Jerusalem. The pilgrims coming there had to exchange their "worldly" money for the "acceptable" money. The money changers charged outrageous exchange fees to swap the coins making obscene profits on the pilgrims. The people basically submitted to being robbed so they could pay their mandatory tithes and offerings.

Here we have a quite different story. People voluntarily giving money for a specific cause that they wanted to support. No interrest fees, no exchange rates, just the politicians and causes they chose to trust and support, not the official robber with the temple monopoly

So the only way your analogy fits at all is if you are convinced that the cause or representative so supported is a thief.
9 posted on 04/08/2004 9:16:04 PM PDT by Geritol (Lord willing, there will be a later...)
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To: Geritol
People voluntarily giving money for a specific cause that they wanted to support. No interrest fees, no exchange rates, just the politicians and causes they chose to trust and support, not the official robber with the temple monopoly

Do you think that PACs like that one and the politicians they support don't have huge overhead, consulting, fundraising, and "campaign professional" fees that come out of every single donation they get? Even if the cause is good, a huge chunk of that money being donated is really going into somebody's pocket doing "consulting" work for huge fees and at substantial profits. If a group wants to do that, fine. But to take that kind of stuff into a church is offensive by any honest measure. You might as well allow insurance adjusters to set up shop in the pews, stick ads for a personal injury lawyer on the front of the pulpit, and turn the churchyard into a used car lot.

10 posted on 04/08/2004 9:32:58 PM PDT by GOPcapitalist
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To: YCTHouston
Crocker screwed up when he rented the church. Why leave yourself open to the slightest bit of criticism. Hold the meeting somewhere else!
11 posted on 04/08/2004 9:33:10 PM PDT by upchuck (Pay attention!! This tagline changes on an irregular schedule and without prior warning.)
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To: Geritol
"Do you even know what money changers were?"

Your humility is inspiring.

Seriously, can you think of a better example of "worldly money" than PAC contributions? But it's OK because it's exchanged for participation in the right cause.

I think the analogy fits. Regardless, I would have a serious problem with ANY Political Action Committee having a fundraiser in my church. There is a difference between political education, which is conducted at many churches, and PAC fundraising.
12 posted on 04/08/2004 9:40:28 PM PDT by YCTHouston
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To: upchuck
Yep. It's hard to complain about liberals misusing the church if we are going to open ourselves up to the same charge.
13 posted on 04/08/2004 9:44:39 PM PDT by YCTHouston
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To: YCTHouston
It's hard to complain about liberals misusing the church if we are going to open ourselves up to the same charge.

Here's the difference: Liberals will invite the Reverend Je$$e Jack$on or his equivalent to speak during one of their church services. The church service is then turned into a democratic party rally and get-out-the-vote party.

In this case, an outside group rented the church facility at a time completely separate from its religious services, and the meeting did not feature church representatives in any official capacity from the church.

Barry Lynn should choose his battles more wisely.

14 posted on 04/08/2004 10:00:48 PM PDT by VRWCmember ("Dukakis" was Greek for "Mondale", and "Kerry" is French for "Dukakis"!)
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To: YCTHouston
INTREP - Has anyone complained about Kerry "preaching" from the pulpit in black churches?
15 posted on 04/08/2004 10:17:20 PM PDT by LiteKeeper
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