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Iraqi blogger boasts: A new war has just begun (we underestimated Shia anti-Americanism)
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Posted on 04/06/2004 5:47:01 PM PDT by Filibuster_60

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1 posted on 04/06/2004 5:47:02 PM PDT by Filibuster_60
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2 posted on 04/06/2004 5:48:42 PM PDT by Support Free Republic (Freepers post from sun to sun, but a fundraiser bot's work is never done.)
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To: Support Free Republic
I never once thought building a decent Iraq would be an easy task. On the contrary, I thought it would hard as hell. I wonder if the American people have stones to see it through. The polls aren't encouraging.
3 posted on 04/06/2004 5:52:54 PM PDT by Callahan
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To: Support Free Republic
As the war rages Teddy Kennedy, on behalf of John Kerry, cheers the terrorists on. Kerry is headed for another Viet Nam like protest. I hope he gets rid of the Camil guy from Florida or it will be dangerous for Republican Senators. Does the FBI have Kerry under survalence?
4 posted on 04/06/2004 5:57:24 PM PDT by paguch
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To: Callahan
For the last hour, O'Reilly has been blasting the administration on Iraq. As he said, this is now the 2nd war...and Rumsfeld has failed. The next few days should be interesting to see how our resolve holds up.
5 posted on 04/06/2004 5:58:41 PM PDT by cwb (Kerry on terrorism "after" 9/11: "I think there has been an exaggeration")
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To: Filibuster_60
The blogger doesnt seem to realize that the followers of Muqtada Al Sadr are a minority.
6 posted on 04/06/2004 5:59:30 PM PDT by cripplecreek (you tell em i'm commin.... and hells commin with me.)
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To: Filibuster_60
"What you saw Sunday across Iraq was the other shoe dropping - a massive coordinated Shiite uprising that left 22 Iraqis, eight U.S. troops and four Salvadoran soldiers dead. "

"22 Iraqis": LOL!
It's amazing what some idiots will convince themselves of.

Sadr has lost. Iran has wasted it's money. I predict that the people who kill Sadr will be sent by the moderate Shia.

7 posted on 04/06/2004 6:00:23 PM PDT by mrsmith ("Oyez, oyez! All rise for the Honorable Chief Justice... Hillary Rodham Clinton ")
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To: Callahan
We live in a society which demands instant gratification.

That's why Clinton was so popular. He cared not one whit about the long-term or America's future. He only cared about tomorrow morning's poll results.
8 posted on 04/06/2004 6:01:16 PM PDT by ambrose ("I actually did vote for the $87 billion before I voted against it" - John F. al-Query)
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To: Support Free Republic
How do you clean up a shiite hole if the people in the shiite holes want it to stay that way? Really i think that #1 they hate the US - if it was Sadaam's plan fueled by dead bodies that woould be better. #2 these guys have no idea of what life could be like. They need to see the positive side, through the Simpsons or Seinfeld episodes. If life has always been terrible, it is easy to always have your head down.
9 posted on 04/06/2004 6:03:46 PM PDT by NotchJohnson
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To: cwb
I saw that too. The best thing Orielly can do now is relay the news and allow us to come to our own conclusions. In the scheme of things, this is just another skirmish in the bigger war.

Our guys have been fighting the war since last year having to maneuver around homemade bombs and suicide and car bombers.

The last thing we need is for the news gatherers to put their anxiety into their reporting. JMO
10 posted on 04/06/2004 6:04:03 PM PDT by swheats
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To: cripplecreek
Harry Truman, despite the Communists that riddled his administration, would have handled this with a couple of Daisy Cutters or MOAB's.

And on the subject, the Saudis need to be taken out too.

We absolutely need to turn this one into a lesson for the bad guys.

11 posted on 04/06/2004 6:05:04 PM PDT by oldtimer (t)
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Which part is the "boast"? So he thinks the US administration underestimated Sadr. big deal. How is that a "boast"?

If we estimated Sadr correctly, he is small fries (the way we've apparently been treating him) and will be taken down soon enough. If we underestimated him, we have certainly adjusted that estimation by now, and will proceed to take him down sooner, or later.

Either way, he's going down.

The only question is, how many will insist on going down with him?

Perhaps Sadr's followers underestimated the Americans. (Often happens.)

Perhaps they should adjust THEIR estimations accordingly. Failure to do so could prove very deadly. (To them.)

12 posted on 04/06/2004 6:05:52 PM PDT by Dr. Frank fan
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To: cripplecreek
This blogger lives in Iraq and has himself been imprisoned by Sadrist militias, so I'm loath to dismiss him just like that. Sadr personally has very few followers but his ideology has already infected much of Iraqi Shiism like metastatizing cancer. A good 12% of Shiites approve of anti-US attacks and while that sounds minor, in absolute numbers that's 2 million people we're talking about - more than Sunnis that sympathize with their own insurgency.
13 posted on 04/06/2004 6:07:06 PM PDT by Filibuster_60
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To: cwb
The notion that Rumsfeld failed is short sighted. Also, a leader does what he thinks is right, even if it is very difficult and may not get him reelected. We have to have faith, as well as Bill.
14 posted on 04/06/2004 6:07:21 PM PDT by NotchJohnson
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To: paguch
I said this on another thread, but will repeat it here. I am wondering if there are outside agitators over there. I am cynical I know, but nothing would surprise me anymore about the left.
15 posted on 04/06/2004 6:07:27 PM PDT by ladyinred (Monthly donors don't have to think! Become one now and veg out!)
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Personally i see an advantage in this uprising. The cowards have finally emerged from hiding and are ready to meet allah and receive their rasins.
16 posted on 04/06/2004 6:08:41 PM PDT by cripplecreek (you tell em i'm commin.... and hells commin with me.)
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To: Callahan
"I never once thought building a decent Iraq would be an easy task. On the contrary, I thought it would hard as hell."

I thought it would be impossible. Islam is not compatible with democracy at this time. Perhaps in a few hundred years Muslims will have updated the Quran or widely interpret it completely differently, but for now we are dealing with a backward religion completely incapable of any sort of a democracy that we could relate to.

There are a few scattered exceptions, but even those are likely doomed to failure simply because Muslims do not understand the notion of a separation between religion and politics.

"I wonder if the American people have stones to see it through. The polls aren't encouraging"

The answer is they do not have the stones to see it through. Much ofcourse is the relentless attacks from the left and mainstream media (one and the same) on Bush and the Iraq policy. But fundamentally, Americans are not terribly interested in trying to democratize a people whom have showed over and over again that they do not share anything like the vision we are offering.

At the end of the day, when Iraq fails utterly to become the democracy many had hoped for, much of the blame will be rightfully cast on the media and the leftists and a gutless American public - but at some point many people are going to have to recognize that Islam is just not going to be able to adapt to Western ideas in our lifetimes.

The good I hope will come out of this is that many in the West will finally begin to recoginize Islam as the scourge it really is. Americans will watch Muslim savages attack everything Western in Israel, through terrorist bombings in Europe, Islamic slaughter of christians in Africa, etc, etc, etc. Over time, people might finally put the pieces together and come to the correct conclusion that Islam is not a "religion of peace" at all - rather it is the mortal enemy of the West.

Longbow
17 posted on 04/06/2004 6:09:30 PM PDT by Longbow1969
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To: cripplecreek
Dontcha just love how we are supposed to be so all fired scared of a few thousand nearly illiterate young thugs with AKs (but no jobs), and they aren't supposed to be terrified of 280 million of us, with millions of trained soldiers, the best weapons in the world, and decades of $400 billion a year in military investment?
18 posted on 04/06/2004 6:10:12 PM PDT by JasonC
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To: ladyinred
do you mean Iran, or the DNC? the answer regarding both is likely YES. This Teddy Kennedy "Bush's Vietnam" rhetoric, its not a coincidence. The Sunnis, Sadr's people, are likely in contact with someone from the "international community". They tipped it off, and up the chain it flowed through the left's infrastructure - the UN, the Europeans, the american left, the american media, the DNC.
19 posted on 04/06/2004 6:10:16 PM PDT by oceanview
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To: oldtimer
Right!

"Cruise" missile time again in Iraq,....etc!!

"Just Do it!"

20 posted on 04/06/2004 6:10:47 PM PDT by maestro
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