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The United Nations and Our National Sovereignty
OpinionEditorials.com ^ | April 06, 2004 | Andy Obermann

Posted on 04/06/2004 3:19:21 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe

Since the beginning of the War on Terror, liberals have appealed to the “better senses” of our leaders to incorporate a broad, United Nations based, coalition to combat our enemies in the world. This coalition would grant “legitimacy” to our efforts, while invoking the spirit of multi-lateralism and global hegemony. These ideological opportunists include the likes of Sen. Hillary Clinton and Ted Kennedy, former Vice President Al Gore, and presidential candidate, Sen. John Kerry.

After all, who would be against having multi-lateral support backed up by the almighty UN? We would gain a great deal from it. European nations, who have been our staunchest allies in the past, may again fall in line, and demonstrate a strong message of power and unification to our enemies.

It may sound good on paper, but this hand over of power will do nothing but harm our nation.

Take, for example, the most recent case of UN interference with American justice. Last week, the UN World Court in the Netherlands ruled that the United States was in violation of the 1963 Vienna Convention, which protects the rights of foreigners convicted of “serious” crimes, by sentencing 51 convicted felons to death. These inmates happened to be Mexican nationals, who, under American law, were illegally working and living in the United States.

Charles W. Hoffman, a State Appellate Defender, praised the ruling of the court as necessary for the promotion of law and justice worldwide, “To recognize the legitimacy of this ruling is to protect people all over the world.” The United States Department of State has promised to “study the decision carefully…in accordance with international law.”

A very telling point to this situation, and one that many seem to be missing, is the fact that these men were sentenced to death. I can think of only one reason someone is sentenced to death—if they murder another human being! At least 30 of the 51 are, in fact, murderers. The rest are a bit of a mystery, but I’m sure they fit the profile, as well. In case the UN needs a review of American law, those who murder others are up for capital punishment in most states! That’s how the system works—you kill someone, you die. That simple!

No, no, in the strange world of the United Nations, this logic doesn’t fly. It shouldn’t be surprising that an organization that tolerated the murderous ambitions of a man like of Saddam Hussein for over a decade, passing paper resolution after paper resolution while thousands of Iraqis were tortured, murdered, and buried in mass graves, would raise flags when dozens of cold-blooded murderers were apprehended, convicted, and sentenced to an appropriate punishment. I suppose it is justice for the “world community,” but for Americans, it leaves much to be desired.

If the UN has its way, these men would be released to Mexican consulates, extradited to Mexico, tried and sentenced by the Mexican justice system, the most corrupt justice system in the world, for the murder of dozens of American citizens. I’m sure the families of their victims would love to see that! We’ll just hand over a bit of American sovereignty and the legitimacy of our justice system to an embryonic “world court” to protect the rights of the savages who murdered American citizens. Sounds like a great plan to me.

Oh, but, liberals here in America will praise this revelation from the UN. After all, these are the same people who defend the rights of men like Mumia Abu Jamal, a liberal icon and convicted cop killer and Black radical. It would make sense that they would flock to defend men like Mario Flores, one of the 51 Mexican nationals who was convicted for hacking his girlfriend to death with a hatchet. Never mind the victims, as long as the perpetrator’s rights are protected, all is well in the world.

This is just one example of many attempts by the UN to invade our sovereignty. They also have aims for global control of the Internet, seizing American waters for the international community, international redistribution of American wealth, and the hand over of American military control. If they succeed in these goals, the results will be devastating and America will be “just another nation” under UN authority.

The United Nations is a dated, failed experiment in global democracy. Unless serious reforms are considered for it, there is little hope for its survival. I for one will not be sad to see it go.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: un

1 posted on 04/06/2004 3:19:21 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Only one thing to say to the UN.

When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.
2 posted on 04/06/2004 3:29:26 PM PDT by cripplecreek (you tell em i'm commin.... and hells commin with me.)
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3 posted on 04/06/2004 3:31:05 PM PDT by Support Free Republic (Your support keeps Free Republic going strong!)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Article III:

Section. 1. The judicial Power of the United States shall be vested in one supreme Court, and in such inferior Courts as the Congress may from time to time ordain and establish.

End of story.

4 posted on 04/06/2004 3:33:54 PM PDT by Jim Noble (Now you go feed those hogs before they worry themselves into anemia!)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

 

A speech by Walter Cronkite -

United Nations, national sovereignty and the future of the world

upon receiving the Norman Cousins Global Governance Award,
on October 19, 1999, at the UN Delegates Dining Room

 

" I am greatly honored to receive this Norman Cousins Global Governance Award for two reasons:

First, I believe as Norman Cousins did that the first priority of humankind in this era is to establish an effective system of world law that will assure peace with justice among the peoples of the world.

Second, I feel sentimental about this award because half a century ago Norman offered me a job as spokesman and Washington lobbyist for the World Federalist organization, which was then in its infancy.

I chose instead to continue in the world of journalism. For many years, I did my best to report on the issues of the day in as objective a manner as possible. When I had my own strong opinions, as I often did, I tried not to communicate them to my audience.

Now, however, my circumstances are different. I am in a position to speak my mind. And that is what I propose to do.

Those of us who are living today can influence the future of civilization. We can influence whether our planet will drift into chaos and violence, or whether through a monumental educational and political effort we will achieve a world of peace under a system of law where individual violators of that law are brought to justice.

For most of this fairly long life I have been an optimist harboring a belief that as our globe shrank, as our communication miracles brought us closer together, we would begin to appreciate the commonality of our universal desire to live in peace and that we would do something to satisfy that yearning of all peoples. Today I find it harder to cling to that hope.

For how many thousands of years now have we humans been what we insist on calling "civilized?" And yet, in total contradiction, we also persist in the savage belief that we must occasionally, at least, settle our arguments by killing one another.

While we spend much of our time and a great deal of our treasure in preparing for war, we see no comparable effort to establish a lasting peace. Meanwhile, emphasizing the sloth in this regard, those advocates who work for world peace by urging a system of world government are called impractical dreamers. Those impractical dreamers are entitled to ask their critics what is so practical about war.

It seems to many of us that if we are to avoid the eventual catastrophic world conflict we must strengthen the United Nations as a first step toward a world government patterned after our own government with a legislature, executive and judiciary, and police to enforce its international laws and keep the peace.

To do that, of course, we Americans will have to yield up some of our sovereignty. That would be a bitter pill. It would take a lot of courage, a lot of faith in the new order.

But the American colonies did it once and brought forth one of the most nearly perfect unions the world has ever seen.

The circumstances were vastly different, obviously. While the colonies differed on many questions, at least the people of the colonies were of the same Anglo-Saxon stock. Yet just because the task appears forbiddingly hard, we should not shirk it.

We cannot defer this responsibility to posterity. Time will not wait. Democracy, civilization itself, is at stake. Within the next few years we must change the basic structure of our global community from the present anarchic system of war and ever more destructive weaponry to a new system governed by a democratic UN federation.

I suppose I'm preaching to the choir here. So let's not talk generalities but focus tonight on a few specifics of what the leadership of the World Federalist Movement believe must be done now to advance the rule of world law.

For starters, we can draw on the wisdom of the framers of the US Constitution in 1787. The differences among the American states then were as bitter as differences among the nation-states in the world today.

In their almost miraculous insight, the founders of our country invented "federalism," a concept that is rooted in the rights of the individual. Our federal system guarantees a maximum of freedom but provides it in a framework of law and justice.

Our forefathers believed that the closer the laws are to the people, the better. Cities legislate on local matters; states make decisions on matters within their borders; and the national government deals with issues that transcend the states, such as interstate commerce and foreign relations. That is federalism.

Today we must develop federal structures on a global level. We need a system of enforceable world law-- a democratic federal world government--to deal with world problems.

What Alexander Hamilton wrote about the need for law among the 13 states applies today to the approximately 200 sovereignties in our global village:

"To look for a continuation of harmony between a number of independent, unconnected sovereignties in the same neighborhood, would be to disregard the uniform course of human events, and to set at defiance the accumulated experience of ages."

Today the notion of unlimited national sovereignty means international anarchy. We must replace the anarchic law of force with a civilized force of law.

Ours will neither be a perfect world, nor a world without disagreement and occasional violence. But it will be a world where the overwhelming majority of national leaders will consistently abide by the rule of world law, and those who won't will be dealt with effectively and with due process by the structures of that same world law. We will never have a city without crime, but we would never want to live in a city that had no system of law to deal with the criminals who will always be with us.

Let me make three suggestions for immediate action that would move us in a direction firmly in the American tradition of law and democracy. 1. Keep our promises: We helped create the UN and to develop the UN assessment formula. Americans overwhelmingly want us to pay our UN dues, with no crippling limitations. We owe it to the world. In fact, we owe it as well to our national self-esteem. 2. Ratify the Treaty to Ban Land Mines, the Law of the Sea Treaty, the Comprehensive Nuclear Test Ban Treaty, the Convention to Eliminate All forms of Discrimination Against Women, and the Convention on the Rights of the Child. Most important, we should sign and ratify the Treaty for a Permanent International Criminal Court. That Court will enable the world to hold individuals accountable for crimes against humanity. 3. Consider, after 55 years, the possibility of a more representative and democratic system of decision making at the UN. This should include both revision of the Veto in the Security Council and adoption of a weighted voting system for the General Assembly. The World Federalists have endorsed Richard Hudson's Binding Triad proposal. George Soros, in his recent book, "The Crisis of Global Capitalism" has given serious attention to this concept which would be based upon not only one-nation-one-vote but also, on population and contributions to the UN budget.

Resolutions adopted by majorities in each of these three areas would be binding, enforceable law. Within the powers given to it in the Charter, the UN could then deal with matters of reliable financing, a standing UN Peace force, development, the environment and human rights.

Some of you may ask why the Senate is not ratifying these important treaties and why the Congress is not paying our UN dues. Even as with the American rejection of the League of Nations, our failure to live up to our obligations to the United Nations is led by a handful of willful senators who choose to pursue their narrow, selfish political objectives at the cost of our nation's conscience.

They pander to and are supported by the Christian Coalition and the rest of the religious right wing. Their leader, Pat Robertson, has written that we should have a world government but only when the messiah arrives. Any attempt to achieve world order before that time must be the work of the Devil!

This small but well-organized group, has intimidated both the Republican Party and the Clinton administration. It has attacked each of our Presidents since FDR for supporting the United Nations. Robertson explains that these Presidents were and are the unwitting agents of Lucifer.

The only way we who believe in the vision of a democratic world federal government can effectively overcome this reactionary movement is to organize a strong educational counteroffensive stretching from the most publicly visible people in all fields to the humblest individuals in every community. That is the vision and the program of the World Federalist Association.

The strength of the World Federalist program would serve an important auxiliary purpose at this particular point in our history. There would be immediate diplomatic advantages in just the world knowledge that this country was even beginning to explore the prospect of strengthening the UN. We would appear before the peoples of the world as the champion of peace for all by the equitable sharing of power. This in sharp contrast to the growing concern that we intend to use our current dominant military power to enforce a sort of pax Americana.

Our country today is at a stage in our foreign policy similar to that crucial point in our nation's early history when our Constitution was produced in Philadelphia.

Let us hear the peal of a new international liberty bell that calls us all to the creation of a system of enforceable world law in which the universal desire for peace can place its hope and prayers.

As Carl Van Doren has written, "History is now choosing the founders of the World Federation. Any person who can be among that number and fails to do so has lost the noblest opportunity of a lifetime."


5 posted on 04/06/2004 3:41:18 PM PDT by Maceman (Too nuanced for a bumper sticker)
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To: Maceman
That old man is as red as they come. How can you twist our Constitution to fit a socialist agenda? Logically anyway.
6 posted on 04/06/2004 3:53:07 PM PDT by vpintheak (Our Liberties we prize, and our rights we will maintain!)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
...international redistribution of American wealth,...

This is one they're definitely interested in, as socialist Europe contracepts and aborts itself out of being able to pay for all its health care, pensions, and myriad other "free" stuff.

7 posted on 04/06/2004 3:53:51 PM PDT by workerbee
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To: Tailgunner Joe
The United Nations is a dated, failed experiment in global democracy. Unless serious reforms are considered for it, there is little hope for its survival.

I have a lot of hope ... for its demise.

8 posted on 04/06/2004 3:55:29 PM PDT by spodefly (I have used up my tagline quota for the month.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Since the beginning of the War on Terror, liberals have appealed to the “better senses” of our leaders to incorporate a broad, United Nations based, coalition to combat our enemies in the world. This coalition would grant “legitimacy” to our efforts, while invoking the spirit of multi-lateralism and global hegemony. These ideological opportunists include the likes of Sen. Hillary Clinton and Ted Kennedy, former Vice President Al Gore, and presidential candidate, Sen. John Kerry.

And former president George H. W. Bush, too.

In one sense, I actually agree with the World Court ruling in this case. I've said for years that the United States should not be processing foreign nationals in our criminal court system on the state level like this -- especially those who are charged with capital crimes. Someone who enters this country illegally and kills someone here is not a criminal -- he's a f#&%ing invader and should be treated as a prisoner of war before a military tribunal.

Mexico would then be unable to plead its case for these mutants without effectively admitting that it is in a state of war with the U.S.

10 posted on 04/06/2004 5:07:55 PM PDT by Alberta's Child (Alberta -- the TRUE north strong and free.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Unless serious reforms are considered for it, there is little hope for its survival. I for one will not be sad to see it go

And George Bush has just given the no good UN billions of dollars from the American taxpayers to help shore up their failures past and future.

11 posted on 04/06/2004 5:14:01 PM PDT by swampfox98 (Beyond 2004 - Chaos! 200 million illegals waiting in the wings)
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To: Maceman
"To do that, of course, we Americans will have to yield up some of our sovereignty. That would be a bitter pill. It would take a lot of courage, a lot of faith in the new order.
But the American colonies did it once and brought forth one of the most nearly perfect unions the world has ever seen."

How can he see the breaking from England to be liberated to be the same as the courage to join with those who you would want liberation from?

It just makes no sense.


12 posted on 04/06/2004 5:32:03 PM PDT by Crazy Larry
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To: Tailgunner Joe
I'll let Alexander Hamilton speak for me -

"Foreign influence is truly the Grecian horse to a republic. We cannot be too careful to exclude its influence." --Alexander Hamilton

GET THE US OUT OF THE UN - NOW!

13 posted on 04/06/2004 6:01:26 PM PDT by Colt .45 ( Veteran - Pride in my Southern Ancestry! Falsum etiam est verum quod constituit superior.)
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To: Alberta's Child
he's a f#&%ing invader and should be treated as a prisoner of war before a military tribunal.

Technically, "illegal combatants."

14 posted on 04/06/2004 6:44:45 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe (Kerry: "Well, he is sort of a phony, isn't he?")
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To: Maceman
Wow, that deserves its own thread...with a barf alert, of course!

Cronkite just gets kookier and kookier.
15 posted on 04/06/2004 6:49:40 PM PDT by Constantine XIII
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To: Colt .45
Amen!
16 posted on 04/06/2004 6:51:28 PM PDT by Constantine XIII
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To: cripplecreek
Absolutely right!

Another thing I would love the liberal UN lovers to tell me, what one conflict has the UN successfully resolved in its history? One would be sufficient to prove that it could possibly work, but there isn't a single one.

The UN is a bastion of anti-American, anti-liberty, pro-dictator savants. Now they want us to put up all the money to renovate/rebuild there headquarters. What crap! I say give them 90 days notice and then evict them. Its our land (we donated it), our building (we paid for it) and there has never been a single benefit to the American people. If these third world dictators and wimpy Euro-socialists love the UN so much, let them build a new headquarters in their country with their money. If the US quits, Israel, the UK, Australia, Poland, Portugal, and a host of other nations will follow suit. What is left will show the world what the UN is, a worthless and costly facade.
17 posted on 04/06/2004 6:57:05 PM PDT by wagglebee
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To: Maceman
Satan loves Walter Cronkite.

The "Globalism" and "World Peace" mantra supported by Walter Cronkite is a lie and scheme of Satan.


18 posted on 04/06/2004 7:54:30 PM PDT by ASTM366
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